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joecct
07-28-2010, 07:04 PM
Today the Governor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts signed a bill that makes the Massachusetts state colleges universities (http://www.wickedlocal.com/marblehead/news/x390011821/Salem-State-College-is-now-a-university).

Since the MASCAC stands for Massachusetts State College Athletic Conference and 75% of the conference are now U's (and all of the hockey schools), what should we rename the conference??

Massachusetts University Athletic Conference?
Commonwealth Athletic Conference?

or something else???? :D

UCBadger
07-28-2010, 09:24 PM
Wow! This is a major change in how Massachusetts defines Universities! Up till now, they were in a minority of states (of which New York in also included) which required Universities to grant research based Ph.D. degrees in several disciplines.

In New York the current definition of a university is:

"University means a higher education institution offering a range of registered undergraduate and graduate curricula in the liberal arts and sciences, degrees in two or more professional fields, and doctoral programs in at least three academic fields."

Here doctoral programs refer to research based doctoral programs, an not professional doctoral programs such as DPT--Doctor of Physical Therapy.

New York (and formerly Massachusetts) views its position on the use of the term "University" as superior to the other 45 or so states that allows that term to be used by any school with masters programs.

The recent change of name of Neumann College to Neumann University would not have occurred in the state of New York. (For the record.....Colgate University is considered a college by the state of New York; their use of "University" has been grandfathered and allowed since Colgate called them selves a university prior to the state adopting the current definition of the term university.)

This very rigid definition has been challenged by a group of independent colleges in the state. That group claims that limiting the term "University" to institutions with research based Ph.D. programs hurt schools which would be called universities in most any other state. They claim:

"Fully 80% of all “master’s colleges and universities” in fact carry the university name, where that title reflects the breadth of their graduate offerings and distinguishes them from purely undergraduate colleges. Within the “master’s – large” subset, 87 percent are universities. Of those that remain colleges, the majority are in the states of New York and Massachusetts, the only ones that still require the presence of doctoral degrees for an institution to adopt the university name. That constraint limits the ability of public and private comprehensives in these states to compete successfully with peers elsewhere for students and financial resources, especially in the international context where “college” typically refers to a secondary school."

It will be interesting to see if New York re-visits their definition of university in light of this change in Massachusetts.

snc1
07-29-2010, 09:30 AM
if they went with the commonwealth athletic conference would the A be hard or soft? if it is a soft A i dont think the CAC would be appropriate

MountieBoyOz
07-29-2010, 10:41 AM
You could do CMAC. Commonwealth of Massachusetts Athletic Conference.

Dyce
07-29-2010, 06:05 PM
State University of Massachusetts Athletic Conference (SUMAC). Nickname: The Bush League.

norm1909
07-29-2010, 09:18 PM
State University of Massachusetts Athletic Conference (SUMAC). Nickname: The Bush League.

The Bush League :confused: - I thought the Kennedy's were from Massachusetts :p

spwood
07-30-2010, 06:42 AM
State University of Massachusetts Athletic Conference (SUMAC). Nickname: The Bush League.

That's good stuff right there!:D

norm1909
07-30-2010, 09:19 AM
That's good stuff right there!:D

You mean poison stuff ;)

NUProf
07-30-2010, 03:40 PM
You mean poison stuff ;)

The SUMACs are not on parity with the Ivies :D

norm1909
07-31-2010, 09:08 PM
The SUMACs are not on parity with the Ivies :D

Humm, this map (http://esp.cr.usgs.gov/data/atlas/little/toxivern.pdf) includes all of Massachusetts :eek: ;)

NorthernBlight
07-31-2010, 09:39 PM
Humm, this map (http://esp.cr.usgs.gov/data/atlas/little/toxivern.pdf) includes all of Massachusetts :eek: ;)

No it doesn't.

CARDS_rule_the_Burgh
07-31-2010, 11:06 PM
Humm, this map (http://esp.cr.usgs.gov/data/atlas/little/toxivern.pdf) includes all of Massachusetts :eek: ;)

Almost all. I think Williams College avoids being part of that area :p

norm1909
08-01-2010, 07:11 AM
Almost all. I think Williams College avoids being part of that area :p

Clearing up my obstructed view and observing at 100%, I see you are correct :o :o

norm1909
08-23-2010, 09:31 PM
Today the Governor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts signed a bill that makes the Massachusetts state colleges universities (http://www.wickedlocal.com/marblehead/news/x390011821/Salem-State-College-is-now-a-university).

Since the MASCAC stands for Massachusetts State College Athletic Conference and 75% of the conference are now U's (and all of the hockey schools), what should we rename the conference??

Massachusetts University Athletic Conference?
Commonwealth Athletic Conference?

or something else???? :D

This might explain things (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_marijuana_law;_ylt=ArQGfrcsu1vAxeNGk5wHPUZH2ocA ;_ylu=X3oDMTM1czZsYmlzBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwODIzL3Vz X21hcmlqdWFuYV9sYXcEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3Bvcw MzBHBvcwMzBHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDc29tZW1h c3N0b3du)..... :eek: ;)