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hawkhockey
07-27-2010, 12:50 PM
do all DI schools offer athletic scholarships?Curious as to who, if any do not.
Thanks

Ralph Baer
07-27-2010, 01:02 PM
The six Ivies, Union and RIT don't. Air Force and Army don't charge anyone. The other AHA schools are limited to 12 (I think that is the number) and some give fewer than that.

Laker Hockey
07-27-2010, 01:04 PM
The Ivy League does not have athletic scholarships, nor do the three service academies.

Ivy league doesn't have them due to league rules. Service academies don't have them since everyone that attends on full scholarship.

aallenpollreisz
07-27-2010, 01:25 PM
Isn't UConn a non-scholarship program?

TigerFan86-87
07-27-2010, 01:44 PM
Isn't UConn a non-scholarship program?

They're allowed to, but you may be right in that they choose not to offer them. I believe there is at least one other AHA team (I think it may be Holy Cross?) that does not offer any by choice. The rest of the AHA (aside from RIT, AFA, USMA of course) offer some level of scholarships, but not all to the limit of 12, soon to be 13.

Puck Swami
07-27-2010, 02:02 PM
Remember, just because a school may not offer athletic scholarships, it certainly WILL offer academic and other financial aid depending on family circumstances.

In other words, if you need money, they will give you most or all of what your demonstrated need is in order to go there.

Hokydad
07-27-2010, 02:49 PM
They're allowed to, but you may be right in that they choose not to offer them. I believe there is at least one other AHA team (I think it may be Holy Cross?) that does not offer any by choice. The rest of the AHA (aside from RIT, AFA, USMA of course) offer some level of scholarships, but not all to the limit of 12, soon to be 13.

Holy Cross gives them

Osorojo
07-27-2010, 11:00 PM
Remember, just because a school may not offer athletic scholarships, it certainly WILL offer academic and other financial aid depending on family circumstances.

In other words, if you need money, they will give you most or all of what your demonstrated need is in order to go there.

All this time these holier-than-thou schools that don't give athletic scholarships have been secretly handing out ACADEMIC scholarships?!! This stunning revelation raises the possibility that some schools may be providing ATHLETES with scholarships because of their academic potential and achievement. The NCAA should launch an investigation into this subversive and hypocritical practice. If a 600 on an SAT is good enough to win a scholarship at Bubba U. then it should be good enough for a scholarship anywhere.

Dirty
07-27-2010, 11:16 PM
All this time these holier-than-thou schools that don't give athletic scholarships have been secretly handing out ACADEMIC scholarships?!! This stunning revelation raises the possibility that some schools may be providing ATHLETES with scholarships because of their academic potential and achievement. The NCAA should launch an investigation into this subversive and hypocritical practice. If a 600 on an SAT is good enough to win a scholarship at Bubba U. then it should be good enough for a scholarship anywhere.

You really need to consider aborting yourself.

TigerFan86-87
07-27-2010, 11:39 PM
You really need to consider aborting yourself.

What, that line again? And to the same guy?
Come on, Dirty. We've come to expect so much better from you. :p

Dirty
07-27-2010, 11:47 PM
I wasn't sure if he got the message the first time. He's obviously a slow learner so I was trying to give him a second chance. Original material will be presented the next time he takes a sh^t on his keyboard and smears it around in the form of a post.

The Rube
07-28-2010, 12:30 AM
All this time these holier-than-thou schools that don't give athletic scholarships have been secretly handing out ACADEMIC scholarships?!! This stunning revelation raises the possibility that some schools may be providing ATHLETES with scholarships because of their academic potential and achievement. The NCAA should launch an investigation into this subversive and hypocritical practice. If a 600 on an SAT is good enough to win a scholarship at Bubba U. then it should be good enough for a scholarship anywhere.

I think the chunk of bat guano I stepped in today evolved from you.

LynahFan
07-28-2010, 04:47 AM
Remember, just because a school may not offer athletic scholarships, it certainly WILL offer academic and other financial aid depending on family circumstances.

In other words, if you need money, they will give you most or all of what your demonstrated need is in order to go there.
Remember that the Ivy schools aren't allowed to give academic scholarships either, so the list of schools who don't offer athletic scholarships but might offer academic scholarships is: Union and RIT (and I don't even know if they do or not, but they're the only possibilities).

leswp1
07-28-2010, 06:46 AM
I think the chunk of bat guano I stepped in today evolved from you.

Bat guano can be a useful substance so I have my doubts.

FlagDUDE08
07-28-2010, 07:17 AM
All this time these holier-than-thou schools that don't give athletic scholarships have been secretly handing out ACADEMIC scholarships?!! This stunning revelation raises the possibility that some schools may be providing ATHLETES with scholarships because of their academic potential and achievement. The NCAA should launch an investigation into this subversive and hypocritical practice. If a 600 on an SAT is good enough to win a scholarship at Bubba U. then it should be good enough for a scholarship anywhere.

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TigerFan86-87
07-28-2010, 08:30 AM
Remember that the Ivy schools aren't allowed to give academic scholarships either, so the list of schools who don't offer athletic scholarships but might offer academic scholarships is: Union and RIT (and I don't even know if they do or not, but they're the only possibilities).

At least at RIT (and I imagine at Union as well) like at most D-III schools, they do offer academic scholarships or grants to athletes as long as they are academically eligible (in theory) and not awarded at any higher of a rate to athletes than to the general student population. That is where some D-III programs (Geneseo) have gotten in trouble by awarding the "Scholarships for Canadiens" (or whatever they are called) to the hockey team, but to apparently not as many other students.

RITProf
07-28-2010, 08:39 AM
Remember that the Ivy schools aren't allowed to give academic scholarships either, so the list of schools who don't offer athletic scholarships but might offer academic scholarships is: Union and RIT (and I don't even know if they do or not, but they're the only possibilities).

Both Union and RIT do offer some merit-based scholarships, but I suspect both spend more money on need-based aid. RIT has some pretty generous and flexible merit-based programs. It's probably extremely rare (or never) that someone gets a full ride at RIT based on merit alone, but the combination of merit and need could get someone there.

RIT Fan
07-28-2010, 09:35 AM
Both Union and RIT do offer some merit-based scholarships, but I suspect both spend more money on need-based aid. RIT has some pretty generous and flexible merit-based programs. It's probably extremely rare (or never) that someone gets a full ride at RIT based on merit alone, but the combination of merit and need could get someone there.

Key point you missed - if you qualify for the need-based aid it can be generous. If you don't hopefully your grades get you something.

Jasma
07-28-2010, 09:37 AM
Remember that the Ivy schools aren't allowed to give academic scholarships either, so the list of schools who don't offer athletic scholarships but might offer academic scholarships is: Union and RIT (and I don't even know if they do or not, but they're the only possibilities).

Don't all, or most, of the Ivies have a policy where by they give students they want whatever aid they need? The federal government has been looking into the ridiculously large endowments of schools like the Ivies, Stanford and some others. I believe that they are required by law to spend a certain percentage of their endowments. Many have been hoarding huge amounts of money. So, to get the feds off their back some schools have been pumping more money into financial aid.

I would be interesting to see someone do a story on all this and how it pertains to hockey and LAX, since these are the two sports where you have DIII institutions giving athletic aid packages to a DI sport. Schools like Union are reportedly giving lots of aid to Canadian players. Something similar may be happening in hockey at RIT and the Ivies in and in LAX at Hobart.

Probably not much illegal going on, since there is not a lot of money in hockey or LAX, but it would be enlightening to see how the system works. I find it hard to believe that you have programs like these competing with, and in some cases outcompeting, schools with full complements of athletic scholarships on a regular basis without giving preference to good athletes. Nothing wrong with it in my mind, but curious minds need to know how it all works.

LtPowers
07-28-2010, 11:23 AM
I find it hard to believe that you have programs like these competing with, and in some cases outcompeting, schools with full complements of athletic scholarships on a regular basis without giving preference to good athletes.

I don't see why that would be so hard to believe. An athlete may pick a school for many of the same reasons anyone else picks a school. If the offered financial aid package is comparable, what does it matter if it's athletic or academic or need-based?


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