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2 for chirping
07-26-2010, 01:25 PM
Thought I'd initiate a "pre" pre-season poll for the following season. Seems like the BTD recruitment list has held pretty steady over the last couple of weeks and most teams know what they have. ( although some coaches are more forthright in sharing that info than others).....
So to get it started here are my top 5 in the East. ( with all due respect to our western friends I'm just not that familiar with your schools and their programs. Please feel free to add on where you see fit...

1) Norwich-- All of the big guns still there.... one of them playing her 10th season or so but thats another discussion. The addition of Jill DeBus's offence will help as well. May be some internal issues and some bruised egos trying to find ice for everyone but others in the know claim Bolding has that under control.
2) RIT - Perhaps the most potent offence in D111 hockey and some good recruits on the way. Can they find the way to not self destruct again?
3) Plattsburgh - Will feel the loss of Moberg and Buehler but perennial winners with a lot to prove should have them hungry for revenge against Norwich and Elmira. Not a lot of info out on Houle's recruits but the betting is that he has more than what is listed.
4) Amherst- Quite simply because they are always there!
5) Elmira- For much of the same as above plus a very under rated recruiting class. They may take a while to come together but much like Platty they always seem to be there in the end.

Have at it !!:)

nyi19
07-26-2010, 05:45 PM
3) Plattsburgh - Will feel the loss of Moberg and Buehler but perennial winners with a lot to prove should have them hungry for revenge against Norwich and Elmira. Not a lot of info out on Houle's recruits but the betting is that he has more than what is listed.
Have at it !!:)

Bowler...not buehler. Hard for me to justify a team that didn't win the chip and never has as being No. 1 because they had two out of three good games at NCAAs. but if that's your prerogative, so be it.

RIT Fan
07-26-2010, 06:40 PM
1) Norwich-- All of the big guns still there.... one of them playing her 10th season or so but thats another discussion. The addition of Jill DeBus's offence will help as well. May be some internal issues and some bruised egos trying to find ice for everyone but others in the know claim Bolding has that under control.
2) RIT - Perhaps the most potent offence in D111 hockey and some good recruits on the way. Can they find the way to not self destruct again?
3) Plattsburgh - Will feel the loss of Moberg and Buehler but perennial winners with a lot to prove should have them hungry for revenge against Norwich and Elmira. Not a lot of info out on Houle's recruits but the betting is that he has more than what is listed.
4) Amherst- Quite simply because they are always there!
5) Elmira- For much of the same as above plus a very under rated recruiting class. They may take a while to come together but much like Platty they always seem to be there in the end.

Have at it !!:)

1. Amherst - 2x defending champ. Some has to prove that they can beat this team. Until then, they stay at #1.
2. Norwich - tougher NC schedule should help in the polls. Not really graduating anyone either should help too.
3/4. Plattsburgh or Elmira - Both graduated quality seniors. Always there in the end. Should be there again (but hopefully not).
5. Middlebury - Just because they play on a really big rink.
6. RIT - Must prove they can beat the first 5. Didn't lose much to graduation. The right goalie should make a difference.
7. M'ville - Young team last year. Should be that much better this year.
8. Trinity - Can they recover after losing stud goalie? I doubt it. They will be out of the top ten by xmas.
9. Neumann - Maybe a new coach will spark their interest.
10. GA, W-SP, LF, W-Sup. Take your pick.

Plugger
07-26-2010, 07:11 PM
1. Amherst - 2x defending champ. Some has to prove that they can beat this team. Until then, they stay at #1.
2. Norwich - tougher NC schedule should help in the polls. Not really graduating anyone either should help too.
3/4. Plattsburgh or Elmira - Both graduated quality seniors. Always there in the end. Should be there again (but hopefully not).
5. Middlebury - Just because they play on a really big rink.
6. RIT - Must prove they can beat the first 5. Didn't lose much to graduation. The right goalie should make a difference.
7. M'ville - Young team last year. Should be that much better this year.
8. Trinity - Can they recover after losing stud goalie? I doubt it. They will be out of the top ten by xmas.
9. Neumann - Maybe a new coach will spark their interest.
10. GA, W-SP, LF, W-Sup. Take your pick.

RIT - I like your choices and logic for 1 through 8 and would not change, but I like Bowdoin at #9, as they did not lose many players, and none that had a real impact in scoring. That, plus their new coach who did a really good job at Williams will bode well for them. Lake Forest I think will grow from last years success and they too only lost a couple of Defensive seniors, who will most likely be missed a little, but are replaceable with younger players. So......
1- Amherst
2 - Norwich
3 - Plattsburgh
4 - Elmira
5 - Middlebury
6 - RIT
7 - Manhattanville
8 - Trinity
9 - Bowdoin
10 - LF

gojackets
07-26-2010, 07:27 PM
RIT - I like your choices and logic for 1 through 8 and would not change, but I like Bowdoin at #9, as they did not lose many players, and none that had a real impact in scoring. That, plus their new coach who did a really good job at Williams will bode well for them. Lake Forest I think will grow from last years success and they too only lost a couple of Defensive seniors, who will most likely be missed a little, but are replaceable with younger players. So......
1- Amherst
2 - Norwich
3 - Plattsburgh
4 - Elmira
5 - Middlebury
6 - RIT
7 - Manhattanville
8 - Trinity
9 - Bowdoin
10 - LF

not even gonna comment on the east crap here...I think River Falls is going to be the best team in the West. Lake Forest caught teams off guard last year, they will be good...but not as good as last year, plus River Falls has brought in some really good recruits. I'd think RF should be in at 4 or 5.

2 for chirping
07-26-2010, 08:33 PM
Bowler...not buehler. Hard for me to justify a team that didn't win the chip and never has as being No. 1 because they had two out of three good games at NCAAs. but if that's your prerogative, so be it.

I stand corrected on the Bowler/Buehler issue. - Both very good players though.


I also think that Norwich might have an easier schedule than Platty, RIT & EC
who will 'beat' up on each other throughout the season hence Norwich could grab that number one spot in the polls. That is unless one of the aforementioned "run the table"

However we also saw that getting to the playoffs is the key and once your their anything can happen.
Thats a whole other series of predictions which we can do in Jan-Feb..

What are your predictions ?

Steve Day
07-26-2010, 10:49 PM
Might get some indiction early in the year when Norwich plays 1st game


October 29 The women open their season at home here at Kreitzberg Arena. They will be hosting the East / West Classic, a new tournament, featuring New England College, RIT, Elmira, and of course Norwich.

gojackets
07-27-2010, 04:10 PM
If we want to look at top 5 in the west. Right now I'd put it like this.

1. River Falls....bringing a good team back with good recruits
2. Gustavus....well its Gustavus
3. Superior...RIT goalie brings them up a notch or two
4. Lake Forest...Continues good run in the west
5. Adrian....hopefully they show a little better against the eastern teams this year....all eyes will be on Adrian, MI jan 7&8 when RIT comes to town

on2thinice
07-27-2010, 05:21 PM
Looking forward to Amherst vs RIT 11/27 & 11/28 @ Ritter Arena, should be a great pair of games.

nyi19
07-27-2010, 05:46 PM
Here it is real quick. Actually staying top 5

1. Amherst - Defending champs. Their spot to lose.
2. Plattsburgh - Not a homer pick. Out of top teams from last year, lost the least and brought back the most top scorers.
3. Elmira - Got something to provide without the likes of players like Kivi and DePaul, but still the defending champions of the best conference with young goalies looking to improve.
4. Norwich - A toss-up, but I guess it's hard to rule them out for whatever the reason. Not expecting them to stay in the top 5 past the first two weeks or so. I know some of you have said they didn't graduate anyone, but for them, it can all come down to a bad game against Manhattanville in the ECACE final meaning the end of their season. Inconsistency can be their enemy. Got consistent at the right time last year.
5. RIT - Top scorers return, but still haven't gotten it done, even with them. Doesn't make them not a top team, just not a contending team for whatever the reason the last two years. Not to say they can't turn the corner this year.

hockeymaven
07-27-2010, 09:10 PM
Do not count out Trinity-- losing Iwachiw was huge but they have their top 10 scorers coming back including three all NESCAC players in Komarek, Colman-McGaw and Weiss with a strong recruiting class that I understand includes a very good goalie. Amherst and Middlebury will be strong again but I suspect that Trinity will be a factor in DIII at the end of the season.

5 4 Fighting
07-28-2010, 03:15 AM
Do not count out Trinity-- losing Iwachiw was huge but they have their top 10 scorers coming back including three all NESCAC players in Komarek, Colman-McGaw and Weiss with a strong recruiting class that I understand includes a very good goalie. Amherst and Middlebury will be strong again but I suspect that Trinity will be a factor in DIII at the end of the season.

Nope...just not enough Canadians (zero) to make Trinity a contender...sorry about your luck.

rinky dink
07-28-2010, 07:30 AM
Nope...just not enough Canadians (zero) to make Trinity a contender...sorry about your luck.

So with Middlebury having at least 2 canadians coming in, accordong to BTD they will be much stronger???? ;)

hockeymaven
07-28-2010, 07:32 AM
Trinity may not have any Canadiens but will have a couple of Minnesotans who live north of parts of Canada----that will just have to do for them this year.

123kidd
07-28-2010, 08:08 AM
Trinity may not have any Canadiens but will have a couple of Minnesotans who live north of parts of Canada----that will just have to do for them this year.

The kid from Breck School in MN is going to be a good college player for Trinity, Emily Kliedon I believe.

RIT Fan
07-28-2010, 08:44 AM
If we want to look at top 5 in the west. Right now I'd put it like this.


3. Superior...RIT goalie brings them up a notch or two

5. Adrian....hopefully they show a little better against the eastern teams this year....all eyes will be on Adrian, MI jan 7&8 when RIT comes to town

Superior loses an All-American and brings in a back-up? W-S doesn't seem to score a lot of goals. RIT does, and bails out their goaltending. Hopefully the switch to the JV West helps the transfer.

RIT will blow out Adrian again. It won't be close, again.

RIT Fan
07-28-2010, 08:48 AM
Looking forward to Amherst vs RIT 11/27 & 11/28 @ Ritter Arena, should be a great pair of games.

Can't wait either. First game last year was great until I lost the online connection.
The year before when Amherst/Middlebury came to Rochester was some of the best women's hockey I've seen.

Also looking forward to Plattsburgh returning for a pair in Mid-Jan.

gojackets
07-28-2010, 04:59 PM
Superior loses an All-American and brings in a back-up? W-S doesn't seem to score a lot of goals. RIT does, and bails out their goaltending. Hopefully the switch to the JV West helps the transfer.

RIT will blow out Adrian again. It won't be close, again.

back up? Last I checked Torgerson played half the games last year. My thought on Torgerson is that without her, Superior would have a goalie that has never played at the college level, she is a step up from that.

We'll have to wait and see about RIT/Adrian...I'll keep that post in mind :)

Plugger
07-28-2010, 07:28 PM
back up? Last I checked Torgerson played half the games last year. My thought on Torgerson is that without her, Superior would have a goalie that has never played at the college level, she is a step up from that.

We'll have to wait and see about RIT/Adrian...I'll keep that post in mind :)

Torgerson may have played 1/2 of the games, but had an .877 save pct. and on the college hockey stats website (http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0910/national/d3w) that ranks her 58th out of 61 goalies who played in at least 33% of her teams games. While this does not bode well, I would love to see her improve as I hear she is a really good team player and nice kid. Here's to Amy having a better year!!

RIT Fan
07-29-2010, 09:13 AM
back up? Last I checked Torgerson played half the games last year. My thought on Torgerson is that without her, Superior would have a goalie that has never played at the college level, she is a step up from that.

We'll have to wait and see about RIT/Adrian...I'll keep that post in mind :)


You're talking about the same Adrian team that went 2-6-1 against East teams, right? With two wins against Chatham and Castleton and a tie against Potsdam.
The same Adrian team that was outscored 10-1 and outshot 97-39 in two games against RIT last year. Did they get new coaches? new team? great freshmen recruits?
Please keep this post on file too.

As for back-up goalies, yes Torgerson was the back-up. King got both starts against Amherst, 2 of 3 starts against Elmira, and split each game against Plattsburgh. Torgerson may have started early in the year but it was clear who was starting at the end.

Hopefully the move helps. RIT has certainly made it work for a handful of transfers that needed a fresh start.