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moose97
07-01-2010, 10:19 PM
I know that I've read that one of Paul Kelly's goals is a website with "live in progress scores." Now, I understand that the Hockey East website has had these available for a while (and available on a mobile version of their site too), and just today, the WCHA redesigned their website and added "live in progress statistics" available in a mobile version too. The CCHA site has a spot for "live scoring" - anyone know how well that works? I can't see any live scoring available at the AHA or ECACHL sites.

At this point, I would imagine that it would be fairly easy (and really not that expensive) for each league to require the basic software and internet connection in the press box to create an ESPN Game-tracker type feature to be available here at USCHO, or elsewhere. Heck, I'm sure those game-tracker sites just take raw data from the game and it's mostly up to ESPN, or CBS or whoever you like to use to create the game-tracker site - am I right?

This is, after all 2010! We shouldn't have to call WMPL on Sunday mornings to see who won games on the weekend, right?!?! I don't think I'm asking for ESPN to cary a weekly GOTW or EA to produce a video game...

slurpees
07-01-2010, 11:02 PM
I know that I've read that one of Paul Kelly's goals is a website with "live in progress scores." Now, I understand that the Hockey East website has had these available for a while (and available on a mobile version of their site too), and just today, the WCHA redesigned their website and added "live in progress statistics" available in a mobile version too. The CCHA site has a spot for "live scoring" - anyone know how well that works? I can't see any live scoring available at the AHA or ECACHL sites.

At this point, I would imagine that it would be fairly easy (and really not that expensive) for each league to require the basic software and internet connection in the press box to create an ESPN Game-tracker type feature to be available here at USCHO, or elsewhere. Heck, I'm sure those game-tracker sites just take raw data from the game and it's mostly up to ESPN, or CBS or whoever you like to use to create the game-tracker site - am I right?

This is, after all 2010! We shouldn't have to call WMPL on Sunday mornings to see who won games on the weekend, right?!?! I don't think I'm asking for ESPN to cary a weekly GOTW or EA to produce a video game...

hockey east's is sometimes a little behind. I know INCH has a mobile site with scores, but they're usually way behind.

WeWantMore
07-01-2010, 11:17 PM
I thought the old WCHA site did a decent job at live scores, was always a few minutes behind but never something you had to wait until the next day for.

The Rube
07-01-2010, 11:34 PM
Well, I call it "USCHO Score Updates" area. ;)

While I don't have a smartphone, many of my friends do, and utilize that feature. Otherwise, if we're hanging out at Chez Rube (or wherever) that area is up to the minute on scores/details of the game/etc.

bigmrg74
07-01-2010, 11:42 PM
Well, I call it "USCHO Score Updates" area. ;)

While I don't have a smartphone, many of my friends do, and utilize that feature. Otherwise, if we're hanging out at Chez Rube (or wherever) that area is up to the minute on scores/details of the game/etc.

Yeah, but not everybody is always going to be near a regular computer, and well, lets face it, using the USCHO Message Board on a smart phone or an iPod sucks. That feature could be vastly improved, as I've seen other MB's out there that have the same softwear package as what USCHO use's and have their MB be almost identical as to what you would have on a regular computer on an Ipod Touch.

Of course, that might have something to do with the lesser amount of traffic that that site gets compaired to USCHO, the Admins here might fear that the Server here might not be able to handle the excess traffic from mobile users.

SCSU Euro
07-01-2010, 11:54 PM
Yeah, but not everybody is always going to be near a regular computer, and well, lets face it, using the USCHO Message Board on a smart phone or an iPod sucks.

Not to mention, even on a regular computer, if your team's on the NCAA at-large bid bubble, you've gotta keep up with almost every game going.

Tom Naeger
07-02-2010, 09:15 AM
I can't see any live scoring available at the AHA or ECACHL sites.


The AHA has updates at its website: http://atlantichockeyonline.com/scoreboard/index

The clock never works right but appears they always have the game in the correct period and to date I have not known any errors. Sometimes there are a game or two not updating for whatever reason but they usally are from rinks that have teams that are not really relavent to the big show...

It could be better, but its something and it loads easy on mobile devices...

moose97
07-02-2010, 09:45 AM
The AHA has updates at its website: http://atlantichockeyonline.com/scoreboard/index

So, every league besides the ECACHL has "live" scores on their websites? Who here knows enough about web design to know how hard it would be to create a score tracker page just using the existing data? I know Collegehockeynews has tried in the past (and it doesn't work very well, BTW)...

It just doesn't make sense to me that the data is available (whether on a schools live stats page or on a conference site), that someone couldn't put this together. Then again, I know I couldn't :p

alnike
07-02-2010, 09:46 AM
Collegehockeynews.com runs a pretty good game in process tracker.

It would typically have updates for 90% of the games, and would be a couple minutes behind the live broadcast in terms of scoring/time updates.

moose97
07-02-2010, 09:52 AM
Collegehockeynews.com runs a pretty good game in process tracker.

It would typically have updates for 90% of the games, and would be a couple minutes behind the live broadcast in terms of scoring/time updates.

Um, no. Listen, I've known Adam Wodon for several years, but even he would tell you that it leaves a lot to be desired. 90% is a very generous figure, and many times the games are a whole period (or more) behind (I can't tell you how many times I've looked for a score on that thing and it was 10 p.m. and the game said it was 0-0 at the 1st intermission). Then, once the game is over it seems like the final score rarely gets posted.

I also want to point out that the reason I care so much about this is that I travel quite extensively in the winter (I broadcast high school sports on the radio), and don't actually get to many games (boy do I watch a lot on TV though!). Therefore, I keep up with scores on my phone when I don't have wi-fi at the gym/rink, and checking the score update forum is a pain on a smart phone as has been noted. There just has to be something better than Adam's site created...

pinch
07-02-2010, 10:11 AM
We shouldn't have to call WMPL on Sunday mornings to see who won games on the weekend.

Great times

Bullmoose
07-02-2010, 05:58 PM
So, every league besides the ECACHL has "live" scores on their websites? Who here knows enough about web design to know how hard it would be to create a score tracker page just using the existing data? I know Collegehockeynews has tried in the past (and it doesn't work very well, BTW)...

It just doesn't make sense to me that the data is available (whether on a schools live stats page or on a conference site), that someone couldn't put this together. Then again, I know I couldn't :p

ECACHL website has live scores. Some of them freeze sometimes, but I've had pretty good luck with them last year.

DominicHennig
07-02-2010, 09:59 PM
Hey Guys,

As for the CCHA:

When you go to www.CCHA.com, in the middle right hand side of the page is the Live Scoring. Those are normally pretty accurate, maybe five minutes behind. However, when you click the time (Example: 3:32 3rd) it brings up a box score page. That is normally a minute behind at most and VERY accurate. I use it live in game while broadcasting the Ferris State Hockey games.

So the CCHA really did an awesome job with that.

DominicHennig
07-02-2010, 10:00 PM
They used to have that score tracker?

What happened to that?

Why did they take it away?

What's the dealio?

Can we get somethingt like that back again?

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I would love a score trafcker?


If you are talking about GameTracker, I heard that the company did not want to deal with Division II teams anymore. So only the ALL Division I sport schools get to use it still. Which means, that cancels a lot of the college hockey schools.

redhawkman10
07-03-2010, 05:34 PM
You can still get game tracker if you subscribe to CBS College sports for your school. It is limited to the number of games the track, probably to what dominic mentioned below, but its better than nothing.

ZYanksRule
07-03-2010, 05:36 PM
ECAC does have live scores. They have a scoreboard at the top of the page that displays scores pretty quickly.

bigblue_dl
07-06-2010, 03:19 PM
using the USCHO Message Board on a smart phone or an iPod sucks..
ah, no it doesn't, it is the exact same as using it on the computer, just have to use a smaller keyboard. :confused:

moose97
07-06-2010, 03:46 PM
ah, no it doesn't, it is the exact same as using it on the computer, just have to use a smaller keyboard. :confused:

I think the point is that you have to keep going back and forth between threads, or have a bunch of tabs open just to keep up on every game and keep refreshing them.

Here's an example of what I was talking about - as far as an "ESPN.com - style" Score Tracker page:


----------------------
North Dakota 0 20:00
Bemidji State 0 1st
----------------------
Live Stats (click here)
Home Radio (click here)
Road Radio (click here)

----------------------
St. Cloud State 0 20:00
Minnesota 0 1st
----------------------
Live Stats (click here)
Home Radio (click here)
Road Radio (click here)

etc.

With the scores updating in real time (or on a 30 sec, or 90 sec, etc. refresh). That way, you could go to one page, get all the scores and also listen to any game you wanted with one click. CHN is the closest to this right now, but it has the potential to be so much better...

bigblue_dl
07-06-2010, 04:06 PM
I think the point is that you have to keep going back and forth between threads, or have a bunch of tabs open just to keep up on every game and keep refreshing them.

Here's an example of what I was talking about - as far as an "ESPN.com - style" Score Tracker page:


----------------------
North Dakota 0 20:00
Bemidji State 0 1st
----------------------
Live Stats (click here)
Home Radio (click here)
Road Radio (click here)

----------------------
St. Cloud State 0 20:00
Minnesota 0 1st
----------------------
Live Stats (click here)
Home Radio (click here)
Road Radio (click here)

etc.

With the scores updating in real time (or on a 30 sec, or 90 sec, etc. refresh). That way, you could go to one page, get all the scores and also listen to any game you wanted with one click. CHN is the closest to this right now, but it has the potential to be so much better...
I agree completely with that, but it is a problem with using the message board for score updates, not with using a smartphone. I am always annoyed with having to flip through threads to get scores, and then not getting reliable info in the thread on who the goal scorers are or who got the assists.

The Rube
07-07-2010, 01:17 AM
bbdl: that's what friends are for. Usually, I don't really care, but on big weekends, a bunch of us make sure we know who wants updates, etc, and yay texting, especially since some people are actually at the games.

I have a 400-text/month plan, simply for hockey season. Avg offseason month, I run about 20-30 texts or so at best. During the season, I max out, if not go over.

It narrows down how many threads you have to keep track of, and unless you want goal scorers/assists, it's much easier and usually more accurate/less time-consuming.

Given the popularity of college hockey, it'd be tough to allocate the resources to get a true live-scoring site a la Yahoo/ESPN/etc, as they do in football/baseball/basketball (pro or otherwise).

To be honest, there are times when we all text the up-to-the-minute PWR rankings during conf tourneys and such. :o