Fighting in college Hockey

[GoBucky36]

Re: Fighting in college Hockey

Id be fine with it if they allowed fighting in college just like they do in the NHL. Especially in the case of 2 teams that have a history of really disliking each other, it would be better to just let them fight than to have them taking cheap shots and talking trash all game long.

[UncleRay]

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Isn't the NHL (AHL, etc) the only league worldwide that does allow fighting? I thought it was cleaned up in international play.

[cycledown]

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You dont want the BTHC to be more dominating than it already is even though it isnt a conference ......YET!

What could also be asked is Which motivates a team more a fight or a goal?

[sbkbghockey]

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No fighting!

Lot's of schools, and esp at DIII schools , don't have big staff like the major college hockey programs (i.e team doctors and dentists) like the major Jr and pro teams do.

Also college hockey rosters are set and unlike jr major jr and pro hockey there's no call ups if more players are injured (ie increase in facial and teeth injuries). Also with those set rosters there's really no room for enforcers.

Fights already do happen but just not as frequently as in the pros, and lately it seems there's a trend to fight after a big clean hit rather than throwing a big clean hit of your own, but in college hockey we see more of an exchange in big hits than fights for stupid reasons. In college fights have more legit reasons for fighting.

I saw it was mentioned earlier, I do agree when fights break out college refs are very quick to jump in. They NEED to just stay back and let the players go. They're already going to get thrown out and know the rules for fighting so just let them go.

[Gurtholfin]

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Yeah, I'm sure the NCAA is going to go for sanctioned fighting in a college sport. Really people?

I wish they'd ban it in the NHL and I think that anyone who attacks someone for legally checking their team mate should be suspended for 10 games.

I just watched two months of Stanley Cup playoffs and didn't see a single fight and I didn't miss it a bit. In addition, there didn't seem to be a need for the "self-policing" that so many fighting defenders use as the reason to keep it.

Truth told, I root for my guy when there is a fight, but it just seems outdated especially since there are no longer heavyweights/personalities ala the most recent batch such as Probert, Domi, etc.

Fighting in the NHL is on the way out, as it should be. Can't wait.

PS I'm all for the coaches fighting each other as Eaves would take Lucia's head off.

[cycledown]

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Yeah, I'm sure the NCAA is going to go for sanctioned fighting in a college sport. Really people?

I wish they'd ban it in the NHL and I think that anyone who attacks someone for legally checking their team mate should be suspended for 10 games.

I just watched two months of Stanley Cup playoffs and didn't see a single fight and I didn't miss it a bit. In addition, there didn't seem to be a need for the "self-policing" that so many fighting defenders use as the reason to keep it.

Truth told, I root for my guy when there is a fight, but it just seems outdated especially since there are no longer heavyweights/personalities ala the most recent batch such as Probert, Domi, etc.

Fighting in the NHL is on the way out, as it should be. Can't wait.

PS I'm all for the coaches fighting each other as Eaves would take Lucia's head off.

lol.....Id like to see that too.

[frmbostn]

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Hockey players who can or want to fight can move to Sask. or Quebec; college hockey is for small guys with speed and skill.

Why dont we remove all academic requirements for the players as well.

"Wait didn't (Insert name of institution with seeming lower standards) already do that?"

[eetzasqueed]

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Why dont we remove all academic requirements for the players as well.

"Wait didn't (Insert name of institution with seeming lower standards) already do that?"

But...But...I can't make fun of Chris Bourque now!

[SCSU Euro]

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I can't take that bet. Hello, I have no restraint. Also, I get such a kick out of typing St, Cloooud.

*edit* What does Happy have to do with this?

Ahhh... so you DON'T think Duluth is gonna be better than St. Cloud. Thanks, got it.

As an arrogant Gopher fan, I don't care.

Awesome, but I was talking about Gophers Lite, not to you.

[Runninwiththedogs]

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You quoted Happy and me in your bet post.

You can interpret my refusal however you like. But 1. I see no benefit to winning the bet (other than my team's success, which I don't measure using St, Cloooud as a yardstick) as winning might shut you up about tUMD, but it won't make, like, Rabib or Dude Love shut up. Although if it did, then who would I target? 2. I'm not going to enter a bet I know I can't pay up on, whether I think my odds are short or long. I've no doubt you're willing to follow through when we host you for the WCHA first round, but I'm not willing to/can't help myself.

[5mn_Major]

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Why have fighting? It shuts down everything for 5 mn with something that has nothing to do with the game. It makes as much sense as inserting a poem in a boxing match.

[SCSU Euro]

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You quoted Happy and me in your bet post.

You can interpret my refusal however you like. But 1. I see no benefit to winning the bet (other than my team's success, which I don't measure using St, Cloooud as a yardstick) as winning might shut you up about tUMD, but it won't make, like, Rabib or Dude Love shut up. Although if it did, then who would I target? 2. I'm not going to enter a bet I know I can't pay up on, whether I think my odds are short or long. I've no doubt you're willing to follow through when we host you for the WCHA first round, but I'm not willing to/can't help myself.

I either accidentally quoted him or forgot to throw in a shot at the fourth best team in the state, I don't rememer which.

And you can use all the excuses you want... if you'd like, you can look up NSSHG's from last year.

[FlagDUDE08]

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Honestly, why not examine this by taking a look at the amount of fighting in the AHL or NHL. This is where, after up to 4 years, the player says "Yay I get to fight again". Yes, a player may have 1-2 fights within the first month or so, but they grow out of it.

There are still "enforcers" in the college game that will give an extra check or may get a roughing/hitting-after-whistle double minor; I know that "facemasking" has also become a popular penalty in this situation at least in the ECAC (another reason why they should get rid of the mandatory cages, but I digress). Yes, hockey is very much a fundamentals game that involves heavy hitting, but I don't really see the overt need to drop the gloves unless things turn extremely sour. Just start giving a lot of hard checks to that player on his next shift, or the same shift if it's the beginning of it.

Also, as a point of technicality, fighting is not "legal" at any level of hockey as there is still a penalty attached, just the punishment for doing so changes. In some leagues, you get a major penalty. In some, you get suspended. In some, you're expelled from playing for the duration of the season (mostly the younger leagues).

[bsaeagle64]

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Yes, hockey is very much a fundamentals game that involves heavy hitting, but I don't really see the overt need to drop the gloves unless things turn extremely sour. Just start giving a lot of hard checks to that player on his next shift, or the same shift if it's the beginning of it.

Thanks for the great comment. This is the way we should all look at the game.

When the World Jrs were in Boston a while back, I saw one of the best Ice Hockey games I've ever seen played at Matthews Arena. Granted it wasn't college, but it was a game that showed everyone who was there how the game should be played.

To preface my description of that game, I'll say that the 1st game of the two game set involved Canada and Finland. Since the Canadian kids don't play a european 'style', and the Fins don't play a Canadian 'style', the Canadians were able to hit the Fins hard and legally every chance they could, preventing Finland from ever getting on track. Canada won going away.

In the game I will refer to as one of the best I have ever seen, two european teams (can't remember what countries were represented) played 65 minutes to a 0-0 tie. The action was non stop from one end of the ice to the other, with very few whistles for either off-sides or icing. These kids definately knew what they were doing on the ice, both offensively and defensively, and with very few, if any, penalties.

I've seen more than a few NU games over the years where the skating was great and the legal hits were fierce, but no fights, and I came away from the games saying that I just saw Ice Hockey the way it should be played. I don't think fighting belongs in College Hockey, but bodies hitting the ice from great legal, but ferocious checks, is part of the game.

[Happy]

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Yeah, I'm sure the NCAA is going to go for sanctioned fighting in a college sport. Really people?

I wish they'd ban it in the NHL and I think that anyone who attacks someone for legally checking their team mate should be suspended for 10 games.

I just watched two months of Stanley Cup playoffs and didn't see a single fight and I didn't miss it a bit. In addition, there didn't seem to be a need for the "self-policing" that so many fighting defenders use as the reason to keep it.

Truth told, I root for my guy when there is a fight, but it just seems outdated especially since there are no longer heavyweights/personalities ala the most recent batch such as Probert, Domi, etc.

Fighting in the NHL is on the way out, as it should be. Can't wait.

PS I'm all for the coaches fighting each other as Eaves would take Lucia's head off.

How about just posting on youtube the Eaves versus Alex Leavitt assault and battery, that would be a lot better, and more enjoyable to everyone.