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moose97
06-05-2010, 08:42 AM
So, you're telling me that rugby can make money on network TV and NCAA hockey can't on cable? :confused:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/400735-rugby-nbcs-collegiate-sevens-championship-preview

Discuss...

thebrain
06-05-2010, 09:25 AM
So, you're telling me that rugby can make money on network TV and NCAA hockey can't on cable? :confused:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/400735-rugby-nbcs-collegiate-sevens-championship-preview

Discuss...

When Mark Cuban is in the mix, it doesn't need to make money.

And they're going up against MLB on Fox and The Belmont Stakes on ABC today.

moose97
06-05-2010, 09:34 AM
When Mark Cuban is in the mix, it doesn't need to make money.

No, I suppose not...

And they're going up against MLB on Fox and The Belmont Stakes on ABC today.

I predict a 0.2 for this. It'll be interesting to see what it does pull in though. A sport almost no one knows the rules to and has likely never seen on TV. At least hockey (as a sport) is somewhat familiar to viewers. Heck, even if they don't know all the rules, most know enough of them to get by (how to score a goal, etc.) I mean, all I know of rugby is that they have an over-inflated white football and don't wear helmets.

fishcore12
06-05-2010, 09:47 AM
I mean, all I know of rugby is that they have an over-inflated white football and don't wear helmets.

This may be NBC in connection with USA Rugby trying to educate and introduce the casual sports fan to a sport that is not normally seen or talked about in the US.

WeWantMore
06-05-2010, 09:50 AM
Plus it's Rugby 7s, not full rugby. Over quicker, they can show more games. Plus it's going to be in the Olympics, so NBC has incentive to hype it.

unh_hockey
06-05-2010, 10:08 AM
This may be NBC in connection with USA Rugby trying to educate and introduce the casual sports fan to a sport that is not normally seen or talked about in the US.

Rugby probably has a larger following than NCAA hockey as it is an international sport. More folks I meet know rugby than hockey, but I am in virginia so that might be why.

7's is a good time. I am not surprised it is getting air time. Coming from someone who played for a while, I can tell you its much more demanding than football, soccer or hockey from a physical standpoint.

fishcore12
06-05-2010, 10:12 AM
Rugby probably has a larger following than NCAA hockey as it is an international sport. More folks I meet know rugby than hockey, but I am in virginia so that might be why.

7's is a good time. I am not surprised it is getting air time. Coming from someone who played for a while, I can tell you its much more demanding than football, soccer or hockey from a physical standpoint.

I fully agree with you that rugby has a larger following. Im just saying that a good portion of the country if asked about rugby would not know about it. I enjoy watching it.

dggoddard
06-05-2010, 10:13 AM
Lets not also ignore the fact that many of these schools have huge alumni bases. Much larger than the Top 16 hockey programs.

fiqure8
06-05-2010, 10:55 AM
No, I suppose not...


I predict a 0.2 for this. It'll be interesting to see what it does pull in though. A sport almost no one knows the rules to and has likely never seen on TV. At least hockey (as a sport) is somewhat familiar to viewers. Heck, even if they don't know all the rules, most know enough of them to get by (how to score a goal, etc.) I mean, all I know of rugby is that they have an over-inflated white football and don't wear helmets.

A gentlemens' game ! Don't knock it till you tried it. Hong Kong Sevens also has a huge following

moose97
06-05-2010, 10:56 AM
Rugby probably has a larger following than NCAA hockey as it is an international sport. More folks I meet know rugby than hockey, but I am in virginia so that might be why.

Note I said hockey in general - not just NCAA hockey.

That said, just because rugby is popular internationally doesn't mean that it's popular here. If so, soccer would be a guaranteed ratings bonanza here, yet ESPN plugs the World Cup like it's going out of style and yet their own poll from a few weeks ago showed something like 30-40% of respondants couldn't care less about the event (and another 20-30% said they had a passing interest at best)...

moose97
06-05-2010, 10:57 AM
A gentlemens' game ! Don't knock it till you tried it. Hong Kong Sevens also has a huge following

I'm not knocking it al all! I think it's an interesting sport - I just don't know the rules (heck, I'm facinated with crickett, but haven't a clue how that works either)...

Bagman
06-05-2010, 12:11 PM
A gentlemens' game ! Don't knock it till you tried it. Hong Kong Sevens also has a huge following

Actually rugby is hooligans game played by gentleman. Soccer is a gentlemans game played by hooligans. Just sayin....The USA is defending gold medalists in Rugby.Last time it was played in the Olympics was 1924 as the 15 aside game. It(7's) will be in the 2016 Olympics in Rio.

Slap Shot
06-05-2010, 02:39 PM
Lets not also ignore the fact that many of these schools have huge alumni bases. Much larger than the Top 16 hockey programs.

Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Notre Dame and Michigan State come to mind, but overall you're probably right.

FlagDUDE08
06-05-2010, 02:43 PM
...A sport almost no one knows the rules...

Rugby has rules? :D

The Freds
06-05-2010, 02:50 PM
A gentlemens' game ! Don't knock it till you tried it. Hong Kong Sevens also has a huge following

I was traveling through the South Pacific a number of years back during the Hong Kong Sevens and when the games were on, everything came to a standstill - think Superbowl-esque. Weird though the games were quick and normal life would resume.

I'd be shocked if it caught on quickly here.

FlagDUDE08
06-05-2010, 03:23 PM
I was traveling through the South Pacific a number of years back during the Hong Kong Sevens and when the games were on, everything came to a standstill - think Superbowl-esque. Weird though the games were quick and normal life would resume.

I'd be shocked if it caught on quickly here.

It's possible, but I think football will continue to take precedence. Personally I like the 15-player Rugby (either Union or League), and not too much Rugby 7's. But, who knows what will happen.

Enough posting, and time to enjoy the game.

4four4
06-05-2010, 03:26 PM
Note I said hockey in general - not just NCAA hockey.

That said, just because rugby is popular internationally doesn't mean that it's popular here. If so, soccer would be a guaranteed ratings bonanza here, yet ESPN plugs the World Cup like it's going out of style and yet their own poll from a few weeks ago showed something like 30-40% of respondants couldn't care less about the event (and another 20-30% said they had a passing interest at best)...

ESPN is hyping the World Cup because they already televise the EPL and the Spainish leagues. It makes since for them to cover the World Cup and we will find the immigrants from soccer playing countries religiously follow their old country. Sometime back ESPN said soccer ratings slowly improve year to year. Although it is slow they still have an interest. ie. the EPL gives them millions of dollars to show highlights and televise their games. Follow the money.

moose97
06-05-2010, 03:54 PM
Alright - I gave that almost an hour. I can't see myself tuning in tomorrow. (Great shot just there of kids in the stands on their PSP/Game Boy :D )

SiouxFanatic
06-05-2010, 04:15 PM
I love how this turned into discussion about international following of Rugby. I didn't even know College Rugby existed until I started seeing commercials for it on NBC.

Rugby is more of a European thing just like American football is our thing.

And the interest in the World Cup here in the U.S. really depends on how the U.S. national team does. At the last World Cup, quite a lot of interest was garnered in the World Cup because the U.S. national team was playing well.

Patman
06-05-2010, 05:21 PM
I was traveling through the South Pacific a number of years back during the Hong Kong Sevens and when the games were on, everything came to a standstill - think Superbowl-esque. Weird though the games were quick and normal life would resume.

I'd be shocked if it caught on quickly here.

some of those small island nations we laugh at (you know the ones with fewer persons than the population of Worcester) are world powers in Rugby. Particularly Samoa. I think that'll throw a lot of people when they start to follow this sport.