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Onion Man
04-11-2010, 01:19 AM
Well, I guess we will just ignore facts and statistics and take your word for it.:rolleyes:

Seriously, though. You are an idiot. You are basing him being the "best coach of all time, not even close" on two games.

Go eff yourself. If you think his career is two games long, you are completely ********. He built a program out of nothing and won 3 titles in 9 years. Oh, and he somehow won a title at Bowlng Green.

UMDBulldogHockeyIsKing
04-11-2010, 01:56 AM
York is good, but I'll have to go with the Wooger. Wooger could coach hockey AND be hilarious while teaming up in the TV booth with a guy wearing a ridiculous hat on his head. I just don't see York being quite as versatile.

If this is serious, you're a moron.

If not, then, whatever.

Go Sertie.

thebrain
04-11-2010, 02:01 AM
Ron Mason, Jeff Jackson, and Bob Peters

J.D.
04-11-2010, 02:29 AM
Something has to be said for longevity. If York keeps up his current pace, he'll retire as the all-time winningest coach in college history with at least four national titles covering two different schools.

solovsfett
04-11-2010, 03:35 AM
I dispute the notion that Jerry York is the best "All-Time"....as he's coached college hockey about 22 years longer than Bob Johnson did (3 titles), and 28 years longer than Herb Brooks did (3 titles), et cetera.

If these 2 guys in particular had stayed in the college ranks they'd certainly have north of 4 titles each by now. In fact, the landscape of college hockey would be much different today had they stayed but that's another story altogether.

To say Jerry York is the best today would be more accurate. You'd get no argument from me on that. Clearly he's the best coach of the last 10-15 years.

sterlippo1
04-11-2010, 03:47 AM
One of those coaches is loved by his players and the other hated. ;)

ouch:eek:

mookie1995
04-11-2010, 05:39 AM
One of those coaches is loved by his players and the other hated. ;)

good god, what a stupid....:rolleyes:

pbr
04-11-2010, 08:10 AM
John MacInnes has to near the top, if not #1. Anybody who can recruit as well as he did to a school in Houghton, MI must have been a genius.

If only MTU could figure out a way to replicate that now..........

sshablak
04-11-2010, 08:21 AM
Ned Harkness has to be right up there.

ts8801
04-11-2010, 08:35 AM
If there is one thing I've learned about greatness, its not to be judged while the person is still active and certainly not immediately following a championship...

J.D.
04-11-2010, 09:37 AM
I dispute the notion that Jerry York is the best "All-Time"....as he's coached college hockey about 22 years longer than Bob Johnson did (3 titles), and 28 years longer than Herb Brooks did (3 titles), et cetera.

They chose to leave the game of college hockey, no? Sorry, but longevity is a factor here.

TimU
04-11-2010, 11:23 AM
York is the best coach of all-time, not even close. To score 7 on the best defense in the country and come back and shut out the nations best offense is coaching brilliance. No one is better than this guy.


How can you say it's not even close all time? York has won less NCAA titles than two other coaches! Other coaches (Heyliger and Armstrong) have built dynasties that dominated decades. and while York may be the best coach currently, and the probably best in the last 20 years, other coaches have achieved more in the last 60 years. I think York is an amazing coach, and he's entering some elite company, but he's not the best coach of all time yet.

How many other coaches scored seven goals in a semifinal game, though, much less play goalie in the final?

unh_hockey
04-11-2010, 11:32 AM
Threads like this are what make our hockey community look like 12 year olds. No disrespect to walrus for dishing out some mad props, but than come the armchair athletes who feel the insatiable need to compare E-peen sizes by counting titles - its a pathetic showing by this hockey community.

York is doing a great job. BC fans at the school have had the luxury of watching a top quality product on the ice. Who cares about the 3 titles by herb brooks back in the 80s? Irrelevant. Right now, BC is the most consistent program with a streak many of us would love to see our schools have.

UNH beating someone 5-0 in a NT game? yes please.

neshl05
04-11-2010, 11:43 AM
good god, what a stupid....:rolleyes:
How many people have you played hockey with from BU? How many are close friends of yours? I'm curious because I know a lot... You have no clue what you are talking about.. They hate him. But you can think whatever you want.

Brainiac
04-11-2010, 11:58 AM
For whatever reason I haven't seen his name. 20 straight tournament appearances with roughly 10 final fours and two national titles. That's pretty good in my book.

mookie1995
04-11-2010, 12:13 PM
I'm around the program enough to see a large number of players interact with him. And by interact I don't mean walk up and yell "I hate you you stupid old man!" to him. Does everyone have every single person they have met on life love or hate them? No.

But to come here and type "all hate him" is in fact stupid. Sorry.

HarleyMC
04-11-2010, 01:22 PM
IMO one of the best ways to judge the success of a coaching career is to look at winning pct. and NCAA titles. Among the top ten all time winningest coaches there are five active coaches (caps) with a combined 158 years of coaching. York has the longest tenure with 37 years and most wins (not updated):

Rank Coach W L T Pct.
1 Mason, Ron 924 380 83 .696
2 YORK, JERRY(37) 821 529 89 .601
3 PARKER, JACK(36) 815 413 101 .651
4 COMLEY, RICK(36) 749 583 100 .558
5 BERENSON, RED(26) 673 310 68 .673
6 Ceglarski, Len 672 339 37 .659
7 Sauer, Jeff 655 532 57 .549
8 MacInnes, John 555 295 39 .646
9 LUCIA, DON(23) 521 291 82 .629
10 Kelley, John 486 233 14 .673

But if you look at winning percentage among active coaches with 10 or more years of D1 coaching experience and at least 2 or more NCAA titles, it stacks up like this (ranking consists of active and retired coaches):

Rank Coach W L T Pct.
3 JACKSON, JEFF 285 100 39 .718
9 BLAIS, DEAN 262 115 33 .679
11 BERENSON, RED 673 310 68 .673
17 PARKER, JACK 815 413 101 .651
26 LUCIA, DON 521 291 82 .629
33 YORK, JERRY 821 529 89 .601
44 GWOZDECKY, GEORGE 429 311 65 .573
47 COMLEY, RICK 749 583 100 .558

Active coaches with 20 or more years of D1 coaching experience and 2 or more NCAA titles:

Rank Coach W L T Pct.
11 BERENSON, RED 673 310 68 .673
17 PARKER, JACK 815 413 101 .651
26 LUCIA, DON 521 291 82 .629
33 YORK, JERRY 821 529 89 .601
44 GWOZDECKY, GEORGE 429 311 65 .573
47 COMLEY, RICK 749 583 100 .558

BoSox3066
04-11-2010, 02:00 PM
Agree with the notion that you can't compare the 60s to today. It's getting increasingly harder to compare the 90s to today it seems.

Think about York. His teams have won 8 straight NCAA regional games. His teams at BC have never lost in the first round. They always play hard and fast. In an era of RIT and Bemidji State upsets that kind of consistency is very impressive. Same can't be said for Parker, Lucia, etc.

Makes Berensen's NCAA streak very impressive, too.

HarleyMC
04-11-2010, 02:21 PM
Think about York. His teams have won 8 straight NCAA regional games. His teams at BC have never lost in the first round. They always play hard and fast. In an era of RIT and Bemidji State upsets that kind of consistency is very impressive. Same can't be said for Parker, Lucia, etc.

The Gophers under Don Lucia posted an 8 game NCAA post season winning streak from 2001-2004. No coach with 20+ years of D1 coaching experience and 2 or more NCAA titles has ever accomplished that.

Federal League
04-11-2010, 02:30 PM
The Gophers under Don Lucia posted an 8 game NCAA post season winning streak from 2001-2004. No coach with 20+ years of D1 coaching experience and 2 or more NCAA titles has ever accomplished that.

:confused: Didn't York just accomplish that? 4-0 in 2008. 0-0 in 2009. 4-0 in 2010. Looks like an 8-game winning streak to me.