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Dirty
04-11-2010, 05:48 PM
I think Belo is just excited that he has found a place where he can try sounding smart by sharing all the things learned obtaining his Humanities degree. Give him a break.

Shirtless Guy
04-11-2010, 05:49 PM
So your point is what? That the statement "some anthropologists look upon 'race' as being a social construct" is correct? Thanks for the validation mope. I don't need wikipedia to tell me that. Lots of Euro-scum think of ethnicity (rightly or wrongly) along race lines which is why I qualified my statement. Like when I have called someone from the UK a "pasty skinned, dentally-challenged, bangers and mash-consumer" they get all emotional about it and start referring to my statment as racist. I don't see it that way - and I am sure the dolt Badger lover there, much like yourself, has no understanding of the differences between race and ethnicity.

By the way, I am guessing that it was the "corn pone" remark that got you all hot and bothered. Look I understand that you square state types don't get out of the country much so if you are confused by the term "bangers and mash" just wikipedia the phrase mope!So are you saying its ok to make be hostile and abusive at ethnic groups but not races or just trying to make fun of people misusing a word that is widely misused? Maybe we shouldn't make such a big deal about slurs directed at african-americans because someone is only directing them at a ethnic group vs the entire race?

Personally I think the use of Sioux, Seminoles, Irish, Aztecs, Vandals are all ok as well as some of the other ones previously pushed to change like the Hurons. Its just sad that you come in here worry about details like race vs ethnicity instead of actually debating the overall issue.

Dirty
04-11-2010, 05:51 PM
Its just sad that you come in here worry about details like rave vs ethnicity instead of actually debating the overall issue.

I wouldn't have pegged you as a rave sort of guy.

dxmnkd316
04-11-2010, 05:51 PM
I think Belo is just excited that he has found a place where he can try sounding smart by sharing all the things learned obtaining his Humanities degree. Give him a break.

I used to think a degree from Cornell was somewhat impressive. But passing off Wikipedia as his own material basically negated those thoughts completely.

dxmnkd316
04-11-2010, 05:54 PM
So are you saying its ok to make be hostile and abusive at ethnic groups but not races or just trying to make fun of people misusing a word that is widely misused? Maybe we shouldn't make such a big deal about slurs directed at african-americans because someone is only directing them at a ethnic group vs the entire race?

Personally I think the use of Sioux, Seminoles, Irish, Aztecs, Vandals are all ok as well as some of the other ones previously pushed to change like the Hurons. Its just sad that you come in here worry about details like rave vs ethnicity instead of actually debating the overall issue.

I'm stealing this from brenthoven...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2qPRxDxARm4/R3pggcoeO0I/AAAAAAAAB1Q/Y4dOWJnc2AE/s400/oh+snap+flowchart.jpg

Jon
04-11-2010, 06:03 PM
EDIT: Why are there so many irritating ****ers out there like rinkpig, BeloBrazil, etc? They must be bored with Dungeons & Dragons, or Harry Potter or whatever the geeks are doing these days.

As someone with dozens of DVDs of MST3K, Doctor Who, Star Wars, and Star Trek (okay, only Wrath of Khan) and the 3rd edition of the Monster Manual, I resent being lumped in withe Bello and company.

We have some pride.

Someone will kindly inform me how changing a nickname is going to magically reverse 500 years of genocide. I'd love to know how that works.

MadCityRich
04-11-2010, 06:05 PM
As someone with dozens of DVDs of MST3K, Doctor Who, Star Wars, and Star Trek (okay, only Wrath of Khan) and the 3rd edition of the Monster Manual, I resent being lumped in withe Bello and company.

We have some pride.

Someone will kindly inform me how changing a nickname is going to magically reverse 500 years of genocide. I'd love to know how that works.

Sorry bra'. I put the broad brush away. ;)

sqeyes
04-11-2010, 06:57 PM
How is the Fighting Molly's.
There is a story here... My Great-grandmother Molly was abducted by the Sioux and they brought her back to the homestead cabin about two weeks later. My guess was she was too tough to tame! So that's my nomination.

Alaska Hockey
04-11-2010, 09:45 PM
Rest assured that any new nickname UND comes up with will be insanely stupid. probably with a random color and some sort of ****ing bird. Use Miami and what they're trying to do at RPI as an example. (still disappointed that QU didn't take our Fighting Deer Tick suggestion... sigh)

Because for the NCAA lame and pointless is better than "offensive".

Get ready for your University of North Dakota Green Falcons!!!!!!11!!!!!

Nope they will go with the Sturnella neglecta as it is the state bird or the fans could go with just being the “Victims “ .

Dirty
04-11-2010, 09:49 PM
How about the Burn Victims? Freddy Krueger could be the mascot and we could go around slashing people with our razor gloves that we purchased at the REA Pro Shop.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
04-12-2010, 02:50 PM
UND Five Jerks and a Squirt

BeloBrasil
04-12-2010, 05:09 PM
I used to think a degree from Cornell was somewhat impressive. But passing off Wikipedia as his own material basically negated those thoughts completely.


Looks like someone is STILL upset at being labeled an imbred, corn-pone, square stater. Do us all a favor mope. Take your Ritalin, slap your mother for marrying her first cousin, and grab yourself some greasy, fatty, and artery-hardening comfort food as is the want of the corn-pone.

Jesus I just with the obese imbreds who make up such a large portion of America's heartland would convince their state legislators to secede to Canada. That country will take in anyone and their cuisine is made up of the same rancid food and beer that America's corn-pone loves to consume so you will all feel right at home.

Sing it with me now:

O Canada, our home and native land. True patriot love in all thy son's command. With glowing hearts we see thee rise the true north strong and free, from far and wide O Canada we stand on guard for thee. God keep our land, glorious and free. O Canada we stand on guard for thee. O CANADA WE STAND ON GUARD FOR THEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Shirtless Guy
04-12-2010, 05:14 PM
Looks like someone is STILL upset at being labeled an imbred, corn-pone, square stater. Do us all a favor mope. Take your Ritalin, slap your mother for marrying her first cousin, and grab yourself some greasy, fatty, and artery-hardening comfort food as is the want of the corn-pone.

Jesus I just with the obese imbreds who make up such a large portion of America's heartland would convince their state legislators to secede to Canada. That country will take in anyone and their cuisine is made up of the same rancid food and beer that America's corn-pone loves to consume so you will all feel right at home.

Sing it with me now:

O Canada, our home and native land. True patriot love in all thy son's command. With glowing hearts we see thee rise the true north strong and free, from far and wide O Canada we stand on guard for thee. God keep our land, glorious and free. O Canada we stand on guard for thee. O CANADA WE STAND ON GUARD FOR THEEEEEEEEEEEE!How much fun it must be to walk around with that stick so far up your ***... :rolleyes:

JB
04-12-2010, 05:25 PM
I am not reading the last 333 posts... and it may have been posted already but...

Wouldn't be easy to just go with:

"North Dakota Fighting Spirit Lake Sioux".

Any paperwork gets a bit messy, but that tribe can now send a happy letter to the NCAA just like the Seminole Nation did for FSU and tada no changing logos or uniforms etc.

Just be more specific.

Shirtless Guy
04-12-2010, 05:28 PM
I am not reading the last 333 posts... and it may have been posted already but...

Wouldn't be easy to just go with:

"North Dakota Fighting Spirit Lake Sioux".

Any paperwork gets a bit messy, but that tribe can now send a happy letter to the NCAA just like the Seminole Nation did for FSU and tada no changing logos or uniforms etc.

Just be more specific.
Fighting Spirit or Fighting Spirit Lakers have been suggested...i would assume the "Sioux" will have to be dropped

JB
04-12-2010, 05:42 PM
Fighting Spirit or Fighting Spirit Lakers have been suggested...i would assume the "Sioux" will have to be dropped

With either of those and a letter from the tribe the logo could probably stay.

Shirtless Guy
04-12-2010, 05:44 PM
With either of those and a letter from the tribe the logo could probably stay.

agreed

Dirty
04-12-2010, 05:48 PM
It won't happen. President Kelly and AD Faison seem to have pushed the SBoHE to make the decision to drop the name. Given this, they won't change the name yet keep the logo.

kdaddy
04-12-2010, 07:09 PM
How much fun it must be to walk around with that stick so far up your ***... :rolleyes:

I think he derives a disturbing amount of pleasure from that ;)

Pucky-Bucky Backer
04-12-2010, 08:05 PM
I think Belo is just excited that he has found a place where he can try sounding smart by sharing all the things learned obtaining his Humanities degree. Give him a break.

I think he wore out the pages of his new thesaurus.



How much fun it must be to walk around with that stick so far up your ***... :rolleyes:

Are you sure it isn't a gerbil? :eek: