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LTsatch
03-30-2010, 01:43 PM
Found this article describing a college hockey game from 1897 in the New York Times Archives

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9E05E7D8153CE433A25757C2A9679C94669ED7CF

TonyTheTiger20
03-30-2010, 01:46 PM
That is just fantastic... hahaha

Hobbit
03-30-2010, 01:49 PM
If you scroll down to the bottom they have a basket ball story. Looks like at that time there were 7 players on each team and the final was 12-7.

Bizarro.

STATEdude3
03-30-2010, 01:50 PM
Wow that is really cool. It's interesting how the definitions of the game-play has changed, but the words have not. I like how the goalie "stopped a goal" instead of a shot. That was an interesting find...thanks for posting it!

LTsatch
03-30-2010, 02:02 PM
That game was only two years after the first official college hockey game between Yale and Johns Hopkins in 1895. I liked the game delayed by a broken skate, goal posts, position names (no defense), and only one line per team. Even back then they were complaining about ice conditions!

LTsatch
03-30-2010, 02:12 PM
A little more searching found a cheat sheet for the rules of the new game. Crazy stuff.

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9E01E5DE1E3DE433A25754C1A9679D94649ED7CF

STATEdude3
03-30-2010, 02:17 PM
15 on the ice for one team legally...looks like a Ferris State line change.:mad:

BUT09
03-30-2010, 03:05 PM
That's awesome.

Also, I'm wondering if my hometown somehow had a hockey team at that point? Unless it's another Montclair.

Driftryder
03-30-2010, 03:15 PM
University of Minnesota defeated by Winnipeg Victoria's 11-3 in game played at Athletic Park in Minneapolis on Feb. 18, 1895.


Interesting stuff.


I found this from http://vintageminnesotahockey.com

First recorded game for the Minnesota Gophers

BUT09
03-30-2010, 03:33 PM
Also, I'm wondering if my hometown somehow had a hockey team at that point? Unless it's another Montclair.

I found this on another site:



Although it has not been determined definitely where and when the first game of ice hockey was played in the United States, available records indicate the sport was being played on an organized basis during the season of 1894-1895 in Baltimore, Maryland, Minneapolis, and Hallock located in Minnesota. New York City and St. Pauls School, Concord, New Hampshire. The sport, on a formal basis, may have been played at an earlier date in St. Paul Minnesota; Montclair New Jersey, and in other communities such as those in upper Michigan, northern New York, and In Minnesota and New England communities that border Canada.

Who knew? Such a random place to be an early hockey hotbed!

candycanes99
03-30-2010, 03:52 PM
Four fowards, a point man, a cover point man, and a goalie. Interesting. Would love to see how the games would play out with guys in those positions all game.

gscott13
03-30-2010, 10:48 PM
rink dimensions in the second article 128x54.... in yards... only 184 feet longer and twice as wide as nhl rinks today

Stories
03-30-2010, 11:02 PM
rink dimensions in the second article 128x54.... in yards... only 184 feet longer and twice as wide as nhl rinks today

Yeah that really was interesting to me. But look at the number of players on the ice! It's like a football field!

Anyone else notice the interesting grammar used?

LynahFan
03-31-2010, 01:53 AM
Four fowards, a point man, a cover point man, and a goalie. Interesting. Would love to see how the games would play out with guys in those positions all game.
Don't forget that there was no forward passing allowed - that changes up the positional responsibilities quite significantly.

candycanes99
03-31-2010, 07:36 AM
rink dimensions in the second article 128x54.... in yards... only 184 feet longer and twice as wide as nhl rinks today


The St. Nicholas Rink field will be 80 feet wide by 180 feet long. This will be a very large one. The usual size of the field is 54 feet wide by 128 feet long.

Actually it seems like most rinks were even smaller. However, the picture in the article does show dimensions of 120 yards by 54 yards. Confused?


The goals ... consist of two wooden posts 4 to 6 feet apart and 6 feet high.

So it would be either a 6x6 goal or a 6x4, which would be a current goal... turned on its side. Weird.

I also enjoyed the picture captions describing a "hard drive." Very different meaning in 1895 than today, unless of course you're Doc Emerick. :D

Duder
03-31-2010, 10:32 AM
"The Yale men wore blue sweaters and stockings, and bicycle breeches of a mixed tweed."

Now that's some indepth coverage.

WildKitty
03-31-2010, 10:48 AM
Hockey illegal??? Whoa. I wonder how long it took Britain to change that rule... I bet the figure skaters complained.... stupid figure skaters...