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gfmorris
09-09-2010, 09:26 AM
I drove by the Veeb earlier. I have no idea where we're supposed to park on Thursday night. If you haven't been downtown lately, they've got superstructure up all around the eastern half [facing the Monroe St parking deck] of the arena for the new part they'll do there. Everything up to around the skate lobby is blocked off. I figure South Hall for parking, but I've emailed the coaches to be sure. It'll either be that or walk from the north side through to the arena, and I'm not sure what is and isn't open that way with the construction.

Per Assistant SID Jamie Gilliam, all parking is free in VBC lots and in the South Hall garage tonight.

GFM

jyoung
09-09-2010, 11:18 AM
Per Assistant SID Jamie Gilliam, all parking is free in VBC lots and in the South Hall garage tonight.

GFM

This is good to know. I was starting to wonder about that problem myself. Normally I just park in city parking across the street, or in the student free zone (one of the benefits last year of that blasted $120 parking permit). Not really an option for this event.

Do we know roughly how many are expecting to show? Or anything yet about how this is going to work, because at the rate things are going I'm going to plop myself down in my old seat (or as close as I can get) and just put my feet up over the two other chairs I want.

We're probably going to be there a bit early because we're coming from UAH and leaving time depends on when I get done with my exam.

gfmorris
09-09-2010, 02:12 PM
Do we know roughly how many are expecting to show? Or anything yet about how this is going to work, because at the rate things are going I'm going to plop myself down in my old seat (or as close as I can get) and just put my feet up over the two other chairs I want.

I don't know.

GFM

COHockey
09-09-2010, 07:12 PM
Let me know how the seat selection worked out. I guess I will have to start my calling tomorrow (if I can) and go from there. I hope there were some good seats left.

wnickelson
09-09-2010, 10:42 PM
The changes to the Veeb are interesting. Only half of what is now the 200 level is finished. Much more handicapped accessible seating there. Only change up in the mezz/300 level is the addition of hand rails. Will post some shots of the arena tomorrow.

gfmorris
09-09-2010, 11:22 PM
Let me know how the seat selection worked out. I guess I will have to start my calling tomorrow (if I can) and go from there. I hope there were some good seats left.

I think the major complaint was in the re-prioritization. I know that some people were upset. There were also quite a number of no-shows.

GFM

tnlong
09-10-2010, 02:30 AM
I think the major complaint was in the re-prioritization. I know that some people were upset. There were also quite a number of no-shows.

GFMWe were able to almost get our same seats (probably thanks to the no-shows), but GFM is right about some people being upset. A little openness about the process before the event could have gone a long way toward easing ill feelings. People should have been told in detail how prioritization (not really re-prioritization) had been decided and been given an opportunity to correct any errors that may have inadvertently been made. Plus, the process could have been carried to a point where each person was given their individual priority number so that the "airplane boarding push" could have been avoided within each "group".

I'll be amazed if there are no cases where multiple people claimed the same seat. You had to ensure that a push-pin was inserted into your seat(s) on the master seating chart before your payment slip was filed. That process failed immediately in front of me, and it was difficult to explain what had just happened so that the slip could be retrieved and the oversight corrected. Sheila was definitely missed. :(

jyoung
09-10-2010, 06:59 AM
I think the major complaint was in the re-prioritization. I know that some people were upset. There were also quite a number of no-shows.

GFM

We noted the lack of regulars from our sections as well, and we expect a number of them to be less than pleased for various reasons. We got basically our seats back as well, but they've added a row behind ours (removed the handicapped from our section) so I get to be kicked in the head this year.

The overall process had a couple of flaws in it (some of them mentioned already):

1.) No real clarification as to whom was prioritized in what order and the actual logic for it. Telling us to trust the system doesn't go over well. Several of our thirty year veterans were pushed to the second group, while we as 2nd year (but BLC members) moved to the third when we probably should have been closer to the end. Not that I terribly object to saving my seats, but if we're going to play 'fair' that's were we're at. I'm also not terribly enamored the idea of losing my seats because someone else has priority and will bump me, but then again I feel for those who lost entire sections they've sat in for years. Unfortunately the renovations aren't very drastic in the visual sense of knowing where you've sat for years, so it's a bit harder to swallow the "it's a new seat" thing.

2.) There were five color groups, Blue, White, Red, Gray, and Black. I never even heard gray or black called, though I saw the fewest name tags with those colors. At a certain point after red was called it seemed to move to a free for all, though the by that point most of the people remaining had resigned themselves to whatever fate lay in store for their seating.

3.) Too much uncertainty about which end was our attacking end. That should have been explained to everyone and more clearly. Turns out that it didn't change, but that was after everyone was told it would. A lot of confusion there. It didn't help that the board they were using to push pins into was backward from their placement in the arena.

4.) As mentioned we had an airport like boarding call crash at each point with a lot of people not working in a line. Even with the request for a line it never really formed. A pair of small velvet ropes would have been better suited to the formation. I agree that it should have included individual priority numbers. Several folks inquired as to why we didn't have a more technological system in place to do this, or multiple line points.

5.) Staff was not adequately briefed on what was going on. I established this by being one of the earliest there and not getting clear answers to how we were doing this.

So we've submitted for (along with full payment) our three seats this year. Two for us, and one for a friend/mother-in-law/etc. who wants to join us each game. The BLC also got our annual donation. Oh, and receipts would have been nice, but that might just be the accountant in me.

jyoung
09-10-2010, 07:04 AM
Let me know how the seat selection worked out. I guess I will have to start my calling tomorrow (if I can) and go from there. I hope there were some good seats left.

Don't know where you like to sit previously, but the area around us still has some good seats due to the no shows. 221 is the new box number, I think (old box was 15), and we're up in E, though a row F is to be added there from what I was being told. Anyway, you should be able to pick up something decent.

Douglas
09-11-2010, 04:12 PM
:confused: Push-pins??? Push-pins!!! I didn't do no stinkin' push-pins... Hope I got the seats I turned in??? I turned in my sheet and immediately left for a tournament game I was playing in... :eek:

MN Cyclone
09-11-2010, 08:01 PM
I don't mean to interrupt your conversation about this years new seating assignments but,

Somebody you guys may of heard of, Doug R. Ross has a new college coaching job...


..In Iowa! (http://www.globegazette.com/sports/article_2bb0cfe4-bc9f-11df-b4b8-001cc4c03286.html)

wnickelson
09-11-2010, 08:36 PM
I don't mean to interrupt your conversation about this years new seating assignments but,

Somebody you guys may of heard of, Doug R. Ross has a new college coaching job...


..In Iowa! (http://www.globegazette.com/sports/article_2bb0cfe4-bc9f-11df-b4b8-001cc4c03286.html)

They can have him.

gfmorris
09-12-2010, 12:26 PM
They can have him.

Amen.

GFM

jyoung
09-12-2010, 09:27 PM
Amen.

GFM

I think my wife and I share that sentiment. She came home yesterday afternoon discussing how yet another person (happens to be our next door neighbor) was soured on UAH hockey because of stuff done during the Ross era. I've met a few guys from that time frame and most are pretty nice, but the number of comments we get from locals about the attitudes back then from the team are insane. Whatever happened back in the 90's really cost us and continues to be a problem to this day with potential fans. I'm very glad our current crop of guys are pretty congenial. Ross may have been good at winning games, but he certainly didn't win over the community.

MikeAnderson
09-12-2010, 10:21 PM
I don't mean to interrupt your conversation about this years new seating assignments but,

Somebody you guys may of heard of, Doug R. Ross has a new college coaching job...


..In Iowa! (http://www.globegazette.com/sports/article_2bb0cfe4-bc9f-11df-b4b8-001cc4c03286.html)

We wish him the best of luck in his future endeavors.

gfmorris
09-12-2010, 10:38 PM
I think my wife and I share that sentiment. She came home yesterday afternoon discussing how yet another person (happens to be our next door neighbor) was soured on UAH hockey because of stuff done during the Ross era. I've met a few guys from that time frame and most are pretty nice, but the number of comments we get from locals about the attitudes back then from the team are insane. Whatever happened back in the 90's really cost us and continues to be a problem to this day with potential fans. I'm very glad our current crop of guys are pretty congenial. Ross may have been good at winning games, but he certainly didn't win over the community.

On Twitter last night, wnickelson called Joe Paterno the Doug Ross of college football. I disagreed, mainly because Joe's players seemed to like him. If there was one consistent current of the comments I heard from players, it was that Ross was disliked. I don't have anything personal against him, but if that many players have had bad things to say to me about him ... and not just guys getting shafted on ice time. If anything, I heard more from the guys that weren't getting buried on the bench.

GFM

tnlong
09-13-2010, 12:12 AM
:confused: Push-pins??? Push-pins!!! I didn't do no stinkin' push-pins... Hope I got the seats I turned in??? I turned in my sheet and immediately left for a tournament game I was playing in... :eek:
Doug, what seats did you get?

Douglas
09-13-2010, 01:53 PM
Doug, what seats did you get?Box 211 Row A 1-5

wsp67326
09-13-2010, 03:53 PM
So, the bomb has been released... Thanks Starman for totally ignoring the plight of the Chargers in terms of the Penn State announcement. What next?

I can only hope that UAH somehow remains strong enough to last until the BTHC comes to fruition in a few years and then can join the outcasts of the CCHA.

You know, this just reeks...

fairman
09-13-2010, 05:46 PM
My take on this entire deal is that the worst case scenario is Penn State + CCHA = 12 teams, and with 59 teams, we're the odd man out, considering a 12 team WCHA, 12 team CCHA, 12 team ECAC, 12 team Atlantic Hockey, and 10 team Hockey East.

With the formation of the BTHC, do our odds improve? Not sure. We'd have:

6 team BTHC, 10 team WCHA, 8 team CCHA, 12 ECAC, 12 AH, 10 HE, plus us. Maybe Alaska-Fairbanks goes to the WCHA in that scenario, opening the spot for us in the CCHA. I'm not sure.