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Hammer
03-26-2010, 08:32 PM
This isn't necessarily the NCAA's fault here, but enough is enough.

First Vermont went to the Frozen Four on an overtime goal that went through a net last season. Then tonight UNH ties Cornell 1-1 with another one that went through the net. Thankfully the referees made the proper calls on both occasions, but one of these nights someone's going to get screwed on something like this, and they're going to have a legitimate beef. God forbid if it happens in the National Title game.

A puck should not go completely through the net and come out the other side. The makeup of the nets need to be changed. This is completely unavoidable and should be fixed.

huskyfan
03-26-2010, 08:46 PM
agree. strongly.

Hammer
03-26-2010, 08:49 PM
Wait until one of the big boys (Michigan, Michigan St, Minnesota, BC, BU, etc.) gets screwed. We'll have a riot on our hands around here, and rightfully so.

CHFAN222
03-26-2010, 08:52 PM
If you want it to be accurate you can always have an electronic trigger in the pucks. If anyone remebers FOX's NHL coverage in the 90s they use to have a little blue circle around the pucks for normal passing and trick shots and it would turn red for slap shots and what not. Maybe implement something similar. All you would need is some sort of sensor in the puck and the net that would only activate on a goal. It would not be that costly to implement and could be outfitted rather quickly.

Hammer
03-26-2010, 08:53 PM
I'd rather shrink the holes in the net instead of going back to the Glow Puck. If it goes in the net, it should stay in the net.

ScoobyDoo
03-26-2010, 08:54 PM
I agree.

Fix the nets.

Agganis
03-26-2010, 08:56 PM
If it goes in the net, it should stay in the net.

What happens in the net, stays in the net.

MikeAnderson
03-26-2010, 08:56 PM
I'd rather shrink the holes in the net instead of going back to the Glow Puck. If it goes in the net, it should stay in the net.

No need for the glow puck, but an electronic sensor could replace the role of the goal judge.

Then again, electronics can fail just as humans can.

Hammer
03-26-2010, 08:59 PM
The NHL already *ed the Red Wings once this season partly because the goal judges got moved. Let's not outsmart ourselves here or overthink this. Shrink the holes in the nets, please.

Brad May video upcoming here.

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FueledByRamen
03-26-2010, 09:02 PM
[QUOTE=Hammer;4723072]The NHL already *ed the Red Wings once this season partly because the goal judges got moved.

Brad May video upcoming here.


I LOVE CONSPIRACY THEORIES!!! :D


(Or I'm just a Blackhawks fan... and upon further review, you all got hosed.)

Hammer
03-26-2010, 09:04 PM
It's not a conspiracy at all. It's incompetence. The NHL moved the goal judges so they could sell another ~10 high-end tickets per game, and the referees botched the replay 7 way until Sunday, even after they got a call from Toronto.

dolan
03-26-2010, 09:05 PM
If you want it to be accurate you can always have an electronic trigger in the pucks. If anyone remebers FOX's NHL coverage in the 90s they use to have a little blue circle around the pucks for normal passing and trick shots and it would turn red for slap shots and what not. Maybe implement something similar. All you would need is some sort of sensor in the puck and the net that would only activate on a goal. It would not be that costly to implement and could be outfitted rather quickly.

They got rid of that because the players said it altered the pucks and made it harder to handle/shoot. I have no reason to believe it would be any different now.

Moose98
03-26-2010, 10:32 PM
if you make the nets have smaller holes it will be tougher for the refs to see the puck cross the line or not. I've seen about 3 instances of this happening and every time video replay has led to the correct call being made

YostWithTheMost
03-26-2010, 10:40 PM
This is completely unavoidable and should be fixed.

Um ... we knew what you meant!:p :D ;)

goldy_331
03-26-2010, 10:47 PM
Wait until one of the big boys (Michigan, Michigan St, Minnesota, BC, BU, etc.) gets screwed. We'll have a riot on our hands around here, and rightfully so.

Umm, early round NCAA playoff between UMN and NMU (?) it happened to the Gophs then. Shot one through the net and the refs and goal judge were the only ones in the building who didn't see it. :mad:

bigmrg74
03-26-2010, 10:59 PM
If you want it to be accurate you can always have an electronic trigger in the pucks. If anyone remebers FOX's NHL coverage in the 90s they use to have a little blue circle around the pucks for normal passing and trick shots and it would turn red for slap shots and what not. Maybe implement something similar. All you would need is some sort of sensor in the puck and the net that would only activate on a goal. It would not be that costly to implement and could be outfitted rather quickly.

Same tech is used today to put the down lines across the field for Football. Still, something better should be done for the nets, either slightly beefier netting, higher tensile strength material. Or a few more set fixed cameras so that they can get the replay right.

critsports
03-26-2010, 11:22 PM
First Vermont went to the Frozen Four on an overtime goal that went through a net last season. Then tonight UNH ties Cornell 1-1 with another one that went through the net. Thankfully the referees made the proper calls on both occasions, but one of these nights someone's going to get screwed on something like this, and they're going to have a legitimate beef. God forbid if it happens in the National Title game.

A puck should not go completely through the net and come out the other side. The makeup of the nets need to be changed. This is completely unavoidable and should be fixed.

Last week at the same venue Saint Lawrence had a shot that the majority of people (including the on ice officials and both teams) thought hit the post and came right back out. A TV replay (which I didn't see as I was at the game) apparently showed the puck moving the net and coming right back out. I was told they showed the replay just before a commercial and when they came back no one commented or replayed it again.
It's clear that some how goal calls are being missed and some without even the benefit of going to a replay or review. At least in tonights game they went to a replay. Last week the game continued and even after a TV timeout it was never even reviewed or questioned.

I don't have the answer but it sure does seem there should be some sort of technology that could/should do a better job than what is happening on the ice with the officials only.

Mowers10
03-26-2010, 11:23 PM
Heck, and if Sislo's 2nd goal was on an angle...you know, the one where he avoid two checks and then scored? That one could have blown through the net and perhaps through the boards. Butler's goal? Too good for the net to hold. :eek: :cool: :p

flyund
03-26-2010, 11:49 PM
Don't forget the olympics all that was left was the burn mark of the puck going through.

goalie heckler
03-27-2010, 12:06 AM
They got rid of that because the players said it altered the pucks and made it harder to handle/shoot. I have no reason to believe it would be any different now.

If they can put a sensor in a tennis ball without affect, I think they can certainly make it work in a puck..