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retrorunner
03-20-2010, 10:01 AM
What time does this occur on Sunday?

Always interesting to see if Moy's Bracketology ends up being correct, as well as what kind of uninformed losers ESPN puts on the screen.

Priceless
03-20-2010, 10:06 AM
11:30AM Eastern, the Deuce

Laker Dude
03-20-2010, 10:06 AM
11:30 tomorrow morning of ESPN 2.

4four4
03-20-2010, 10:30 AM
This show in my opinion is anti-climatic. After today 99% of the teams already know if they are in the NCAA tourney. Maybe they should just discontinue the selection process and televise repeats of pumpkin pushing.

Federal League
03-20-2010, 10:32 AM
what kind of uninformed losers ESPN puts on the screen.

This is my favorite part. There have been years when I've wondered if they even understand the PairWise. I also love when they mispronounce school and player names.

Red Cloud
03-20-2010, 10:33 AM
This show in my opinion is anti-climatic. After today 99% of the teams already know if they are in the NCAA tourney. Maybe they should just discontinue the selection process and televise repeats of pumpkin pushing.

It does serve its purpose. Jayson Moy is still the foremost Bracketology expert anywhere on the planet, but I don't believe he's ever gotten the bracket 100% perfect. There's always some minor, unexpected tweak somewhere and that usually gets revealed on the selection show.

It's not a matter of discovering who's in the tournament - they really ought to cut it out with the lame "are they in or aren't they" cutaways to the teams watching the show.

4four4
03-20-2010, 10:35 AM
It does serve its purpose. Jayson Moy is still the foremost Bracketology expert anywhere on the planet, but I don't believe he's ever gotten the bracket 100% perfect. There's always some minor, unexpected tweak somewhere and that usually gets revealed on the selection show.

It's not a matter of discovering who's in the tournament - they really ought to cut it out with the lame "are they in or aren't they" cutaways to the teams watching the show.

tweak=1% wrong

That is why I said 99% correct.:p

Red Cloud
03-20-2010, 10:37 AM
tweak=1% wrong

That is why I said 99% correct.:p

With only 16 teams in the tournament, your math may be slightly off.

Puck Swami
03-20-2010, 10:48 AM
Be happy we have a selection show at all and a reasonably transparent selection process underneath.

Into the pre-Internet early !990s, there were smoke-filled room politics, the bracket was revealed in the newspaper (if you lived in a hockey city) and there was a media conference call where the committee chairman usually avoided the tough questions by spouting platitudes such as "Team X played well, but in the end there were other teams that made for more a competitive bracket"

We have it great now!

WILD E WOLVERINE
03-20-2010, 10:51 AM
Be happy we have a selection show at all and a reasonably transparent selection process underneath.

Into the pre-Internet early !990s, there were smoke-filled room politics, the bracket was revealed in the newspaper (if you lived in a hockey city) and there was a media conference call where the committee chairman usually avoided the tough questions by spouting platitudes such as "Team X played well, but in the end there were other teams that made for more a competitive bracket"

We have it great now!

Agree for the most part - need to get some of the auto bids straightened out, which should happen next year. But removing the human element is the way to go 99% of the time.

Red Cloud
03-20-2010, 10:56 AM
Agree for the most part - need to get some of the auto bids straightened out, which should happen next year.

There wasn't any problem with the autobids this year. Either you were in favor of the CHA getting an autobid this season or you weren't before the decision was made, but once the decision was made we all knew what might happen. It's a ridiculous argument and it's obviously one we don't have to worry about anymore past this season, unless you're one of the kooks who think the Atlantic Hockey autobid is undeserved.

WILD E WOLVERINE
03-20-2010, 12:27 PM
There wasn't any problem with the autobids this year. Either you were in favor of the CHA getting an autobid this season or you weren't before the decision was made, but once the decision was made we all knew what might happen. It's a ridiculous argument and it's obviously one we don't have to worry about anymore past this season, unless you're one of the kooks who think the Atlantic Hockey autobid is undeserved.

well yes there was a problem - if you did not like it, mister ridiculous.

komey1
03-20-2010, 12:45 PM
I have to agree with Red here. Allowing the CHA an autobid in it's last year was the right thing for the NCAA to do. The NCAA is not known for doing the right thing so we should celebrate that.

If your team gets left out because UAH played their way in - you should have played better or won your tournament.

kdilks
03-20-2010, 01:04 PM
I think a better course of action would have been to give the CHA "guaranteed representation" instead of an autobid. That is to say, they only send their conference champion if nobody else in the league qualifies as an at-large.

Husky4Life
03-20-2010, 01:06 PM
11:30 tomorrow morning of ESPN 2.

This is better then years past when it has been on ESPNU, that no one gets.

10:30 Central BTW ;)

moose97
03-20-2010, 01:13 PM
well yes there was a problem - if you did not like it, mister ridiculous.

As a Michigan fan, you should understand completely. Look at Alabama-Huntsville like the Wolverines - a team that didn't deserve to make the tourney, but got hot at the right time, and won the one game that they needed to (if UMich wins today). If they hadn't won, they wouldn't have been in (like UMich won't if they lose today). Then look at Bemidji State like Miami - they proved all year that they won enough games to get in. Doesn't matter that they faltered at the end, they're getting in.

If that doesn't make sense, read this (http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?p=4694249#post4694249). Like I said there, sometimes it's not about Michigan, et al. Sometimes it's about BSU, UAH, RMU and NU...

moose97
03-20-2010, 01:17 PM
I think a better course of action would have been to give the CHA "guaranteed representation" instead of an autobid. That is to say, they only send their conference champion if nobody else in the league qualifies as an at-large.

Why? So that half-way through the year when BSU was way out in front, the league could give up on selling tickets to its conference tourney/farce that had absolutely no purpose? Who would show up to watch four teams go through the motions when everyone knew that BSU wrapped up the "guaranteed representation."

And what's BSU's motivation, besides not getting kids hurt? Brilliant plan there...:rolleyes:

RinkPig
03-20-2010, 01:22 PM
The selection show is a waste of time - the old fat white haired guy spends the entire 30 mins talking about how great BU and BC are and you'd think the NCAA's is the Hockey East tournament or something... and yet everyone knows the WCHA dominates every year.

bottomdweller
03-20-2010, 01:23 PM
There wasn't any problem with the autobids this year. Either you were in favor of the CHA getting an autobid this season or you weren't before the decision was made, but once the decision was made we all knew what might happen. It's a ridiculous argument and it's obviously one we don't have to worry about anymore past this season, unless you're one of the kooks who think the Atlantic Hockey autobid is undeserved.

Why don't you take the stick out of your *** and lighten up. Been doing nothing but *****ing all day.

CLS
03-20-2010, 01:31 PM
Be happy we have a selection show at all and a reasonably transparent selection process underneath.

. . .

We have it great now!

Amen


This show in my opinion is anti-climatic. After today 99% of the teams already know if they are in the NCAA tourney. Maybe they should just discontinue the selection process and televise repeats of pumpkin pushing.

Keep in mind that the mere fact that you're reading this thread means that you know more about the selection process than 95% of all college hockey fans. It isn't anticlimactic for the other 5% (all 10 or 15 of them who are interested enough to tune in, but aren't among the 95%). That having been said,

11:30AM Eastern, the DeuceOver/Under (or maybe Before/After) for the first "Ala-friggin'-bama? and Michigan/BU/Minnesota isn't in?!?!?!" post: 11:58 EDT.

Before/After for the first "Simple Math" retort. 11:58:30