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Dirty
03-16-2010, 09:22 AM
Doubt it. Maybe you'll take a shower and change your name.:rolleyes:

The first step is admitting you don't know how to spell, so kudos on doing that.

Husckey Domi Nation
03-16-2010, 09:25 AM
The first step is admitting you don't know how to spell, so kudos on doing that.

Whatever.

Schlossman tries to defend Frattin on some lame UND blog stating that his hands were down and feet on the ground but got caught with the distance traveled without mentioning what happened to Wehrs head.

So amusing to see the hypocritical defense from the Marvin bashers.:rolleyes:

brianvf
03-16-2010, 09:31 AM
So amusing to see the hypocritical defense from the Marvin bashers.:rolleyes:

I, for one, wouldn't want to bash Marvin. He'd get all angry and hit my head...he has a history you know. :p

I'm not defending Frattin. He took a stupid penalty that didn't need to be taken. The refs on the ice got the call wrong and the WCHA issued further punishment. I'm fine with that.

Dirty
03-16-2010, 09:33 AM
Well Marvin is a total POS while Frattin is awesome. Don't be angry at us just because you don't realize it.

Husckey Domi Nation
03-16-2010, 09:36 AM
I, for one, wouldn't want to bash Marvin. He'd get all angry and hit my head...he has a history you know. :p

I'm not defending Frattin. He took a stupid penalty that didn't need to be taken. The refs on the ice got the call wrong and the WCHA issued further punishment. I'm fine with that.

Good. It is difficult to defend a guy with a well known reputation for his off the ice behavior and intentionally chose to go head hunting to jump start his team.

Dirty
03-16-2010, 09:38 AM
No it isn't. Matt Frattin is the greatest person ever. He's way cooler than Mother Theresa.

brianvf
03-16-2010, 09:40 AM
Good. It is difficult to defend a guy with a well known reputation for his off the ice behavior and intentionally chose to go head hunting to jump start his team.

I actually liked his other method of jump starting his team better...scoring goals, which he's done plenty of recently. :)

Husckey Domi Nation
03-16-2010, 09:41 AM
I actually liked his other method of jump starting his team better...scoring goals, which he's done plenty of recently. :)

True. He's one heck of a scorer.

Maybe he and Marvin meet on Saturday night. I have tickets.:D

bigblue_dl
03-16-2010, 09:42 AM
No it isn't. Matt Frattin is the greatest person ever. He's way cooler than Mother Theresa.
Damm Dirty, pretty soon you're going start wearing black and red and get really defensive when we start talking about 1st round NCAA exits.

wasmania
03-16-2010, 09:44 AM
I can accept that argument; however, why would that make it less viscious? Furthermore, that isn't what happened here. Wehrs' head didn't hit the boards and it didn't hit the ice with any velocity at all.

You must have better video than the rest of us, since the still frames and replay of the hit don't seem that conclusive on the head contact or factors (stick, elbow, leap etc.) Your level of specificity in what you see is a bit suspect unless you have better photos. If so, please share. The wcha suspended frattin but avoided to clarify why, saying its was a number of factors, suggesting they didnt see it clearly either. My guess on the the actual factors:

- He charged wehrs (this much is very clear)
- He hit Wehrs hard (indeed)
- Wehrs was injured (unfortunate)
- Huge pile on of whining and complaining (irrelevant)

The WCHA appears to be heavily influenced by the outcome (injury) and the whining, and less influenced by the details of the contact (if they were why wouldnt they say?).

I'm not complaining about the suspension. I'm sure those who want payback on the Sioux for whatever reason will continue to cry it should have been harsher and those Sioux fans who lack objectivity will complain the suspension in unfair. At least its done.

Dirty
03-16-2010, 09:48 AM
Damm Dirty, pretty soon you're going start wearing black and red and get really defensive when we start talking about 1st round NCAA exits.

After Biddco you're next on the MMFF Soul Stealing Tour.

bigblue_dl
03-16-2010, 09:50 AM
After Biddco you're next on the MMFF Soul Stealing Tour.
You're assuming that I have a soul...

wasmania
03-16-2010, 09:57 AM
on a lighter note --- Someone please post that shot of Kangas on his butt with the bad hair, Then check out this one. He just needs to grow a wispy little stache'.:D

http://www.theclassicporn.com/actor/Tom%20Byron.html

flyund
03-16-2010, 11:17 AM
So i suppose since Zajac wasn't injured that is why helgeson didn't receive any in game or supplemental discipline.

skiumah2
03-16-2010, 11:23 AM
You must have better video than the rest of us, since the still frames and replay of the hit don't seem that conclusive on the head contact or factors (stick, elbow, leap etc.) Your level of specificity in what you see is a bit suspect unless you have better photos. If so, please share. The wcha suspended frattin but avoided to clarify why, saying its was a number of factors, suggesting they didnt see it clearly either. My guess on the the actual factors:

- He charged wehrs (this much is very clear)
- He hit Wehrs hard (indeed)
- Wehrs was injured (unfortunate)
- Huge pile on of whining and complaining (irrelevant)

The WCHA appears to be heavily influenced by the outcome (injury) and the whining, and less influenced by the details of the contact (if they were why wouldnt they say?).

I'm not complaining about the suspension. I'm sure those who want payback on the Sioux for whatever reason will continue to cry it should have been harsher and those Sioux fans who lack objectivity will complain the suspension in unfair. At least its done.
That doesn't answer my question though. For those of you who somehow did not see the contact to the head, how could Wehrs have sustained a concussion when his head did not hit the boards, and did not hit the ice with any level of severity or velocity if Frattin did not make head contact? I don't know what pictures or videos some of you are looking at. I have the FSN broadcast saved on my DVR. I really can't figure out what many of you can't see. This was a very ugly, cheap, and dirty hit that made direct contact to the head. Rivalry aside, I really don't know how any of you are defending him on this. Even his comments regarding the hit do not sound like he has any regrets for what he did. That's fine I guess, just don't try to tell me Frattin shouldn't be held 100% accountable for this. Everything about that hit was deliberate and meant to cause harm. For that, I don't believe 1 game was enough, and Frattin should be viewed in the same light as Paukovich and Marvin.

skiumah2
03-16-2010, 11:27 AM
So i suppose since Zajac wasn't injured that is why helgeson didn't receive any in game or supplemental discipline.
Are you serious about this? Are you basing this off of a photo someone posted? Does anyone even know if that photo was the result of a check, or was it just Zajac and Helgeson simply falling down in the corner? :rolleyes:

wasmania
03-16-2010, 11:33 AM
That doesn't answer my question though. For those of you who somehow did not see the contact to the head, how could Wehrs have sustained a concussion when his head did not hit the boards, and did not hit the ice with any level of severity or velocity if Frattin did not make head contact? I don't know what pictures or videos some of you are looking at. I have the FSN broadcast saved on my DVR. I really can't figure out what many of you can't see. This was a very ugly, cheap, and dirty hit that made direct contact to the head. Rivalry aside, I really don't know how any of you are defending him on this. Even his comments regarding the hit do not sound like he has any regrets for what he did. That's fine I guess, just don't try to tell me Frattin shouldn't be held 100% accountable for this. Everything about that hit was deliberate and meant to cause harm. For that, I don't believe 1 game was enough, and Frattin should be viewed in the same light as Paukovich and Marvin.

Im not saying he shouldnt get some judgment against him, but I do note that noone on this board can say conclusively from the posted photos exactly what happened. Your logic is fallacious, as a concussion could have happened due to a number of factors. We also havent seen any reporting quoting doctors that he got a concussion, again you are very specific about results without corroboration. Correct me if i am wrong and post the link.

wchaforever
03-16-2010, 11:37 AM
So i suppose since Zajac wasn't injured that is why helgeson didn't receive any in game or supplemental discipline.

You must be referring to this one that we talked about yesterday....

"You mean this one where Zajac is kneeing Helgeson in the groin and lifting him in the air?"

http://www.inforum.com/media/full/jp.../0314zajac.jpg

hmmmm...first link isn't working...Try this one.

http://www.inforum.com/event/image/id/273769/headline/University%20of%20North%20Dakota’s%20Darcy%20Zajac/

wchaforever
03-16-2010, 11:41 AM
Im not saying he shouldnt get some judgment against him, but I do note that noone on this board can say conclusively from the posted photos exactly what happened. Your logic is fallacious, as a concussion could have happened due to a number of factors. We also havent seen any reporting quoting doctors that he got a concussion, again you are very specific about results without corroboration. Correct me if i am wrong and post the link.

Nor can we conclusively say that Keith Hernandez actually spit the loogy that reportedly hit both Kramer and Newman.....

Photos don't ever tell the whole story.

Husckey Domi Nation
03-16-2010, 11:43 AM
Im not saying he shouldnt get some judgment against him, but I do note that noone on this board can say conclusively from the posted photos exactly what happened. Your logic is fallacious, as a concussion could have happened due to a number of factors. We also havent seen any reporting quoting doctors that he got a concussion, again you are very specific about results without corroboration. Correct me if i am wrong and post the link.

If you are saying that looking at the third photo posted on Schlossman's blog (which you can find from the CHN website) where Wehr looks like he is about to be decapitated by Frattin that you can't find evidence of a head shot sufficient to reasonably cause a concussion, then you never will.