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FlagDUDE08
04-08-2010, 03:36 PM
Attendance could continue to be an issue as ticket prices will likely be rising with $746M in debt. ;)

They didn't go up all that much (if at all) this year at RPI, with the exception of the prestige pricing games. Unfortunately for your wallet, Union falls into that bracket. I do trust the Student Union with their budgeting capabilities and to keep a decent price on the games.

GreatLakerMohawk
04-08-2010, 03:42 PM
Yes, there was a good deal of whining in that post, but also some legitimate questions. You can't deny that the team made great strides, but that the ending was disappointing. An upgrade in the blue line corps should help next year.

Coming in yelling about looking towards making coaching changes is not asking questions, it's being a creep. A young team having issues closing out games or playing smart shouldn't shock anyone. It's all part of the ride.

But hey, if he wants to toss the coach out on his ear after the first good season this team has seen in a few years, I'll let him be the village idiot.

RHamilton
04-08-2010, 03:53 PM
They didn't go up all that much (if at all) this year at RPI, with the exception of the prestige pricing games. Unfortunately for your wallet, Union falls into that bracket. I do trust the Student Union with their budgeting capabilities and to keep a decent price on the games.

According to publicly available (http://documents.studentsenate.rpi.edu/documents/556) Union (RPI Student Union, that is) financial documents, the team is expected to raise $95,000 in ticket sales for the 2010-2011 season, while expenses are budgeted at $497,983.48, up 7.03% from last year. The students end up eating that increase in the form of a 3.37% increase in the activity fee, which will be $537.50 per undergrad next year.

It's important to remember that RPI students directly pay for all non-Salary hockey expenses through the activity fee. I'm under the impression we're unique among Div1 hockey teams in this regard.

I'm a student government/budgeting insider, if you have any additional questions feel free to post.

FlagDUDE08
04-08-2010, 04:23 PM
According to publicly available (http://documents.studentsenate.rpi.edu/documents/556) Union (RPI Student Union, that is) financial documents, the team is expected to raise $95,000 in ticket sales for the 2010-2011 season, while expenses are budgeted at $497,983.48, up 7.03% from last year. The students end up eating that increase in the form of a 3.37% increase in the activity fee, which will be $537.50 per undergrad next year.

It's important to remember that RPI students directly pay for all non-Salary hockey expenses through the activity fee. I'm under the impression we're unique among Div1 hockey teams in this regard.

I'm a student government/budgeting insider, if you have any additional questions feel free to post.

Thank you for the details. As an alum, I don't keep good tabs on current student happenings, unless my friends are complaining about it on Facebook.

$95,000 seems a bit conservative, however it's probably best to be conservative than aggressive when budgeting potential income. Is there a discretionary fund for the next year if actual income overtakes expected?

I didn't realize the Union Activity fee was that high; I don't know if my Union fee went above $450. I could be wrong, though, I usually didn't look at the bill THAT closely.

Wicked Slappaahs
04-08-2010, 07:13 PM
They didn't go up all that much (if at all) this year at RPI, with the exception of the prestige pricing games. Unfortunately for your wallet, Union falls into that bracket. I do trust the Student Union with their budgeting capabilities and to keep a decent price on the games.

Ticket prices and parking pass fees for the public did indeed increase this season. I don't have the forms nearby by to check but I'd guess that it was somewhere in the vicinity of a 10% increase. The fees for the Let's Go Red Booster club room increased dramatically ....and was sparsely populated all season long.

Wicked Slappaahs
04-08-2010, 07:14 PM
Congrats to Jerry and Chase for being the subjects of Tom Boggie's ECAC column in this month's THN.

Wicked Slappaahs
04-08-2010, 07:17 PM
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While attendance is down, FlagDUDE makes the point that we are still consistently top 3 in the conference...

If, despite lower attendance numbers, we are consistently among the Top 3, then the rest of the league's attendance must also be suffering, No?

burgie12
04-08-2010, 07:21 PM
Ticket prices and parking pass fees for the public did indeed increase this season. I don't have the forms nearby by to check but I'd guess that it was somewhere in the vicinity of a 10% increase.

Student ticket prices remained constant. The season ticket price actually decreased because we didn't have the games at the TUC which cost an arm and a leg.


If, despite lower attendance numbers, we are consistently among the Top 3, then the rest of the league's attendance must also be suffering, No?

I will look into trends tomorrow, but I have two tests tomorrow, so it will not be tonight.

Wicked Slappaahs
04-08-2010, 07:27 PM
Juha picked Clarkson over SLU, Harvard, Princeton and Notre Dame. Apparently RPI wasnt after him. I hope to hear some good news about Ming in the next couple weeks. If we can land him I believe that would be our first forward recruit for 2011.

No offense to Tech'ers out there, but if he picked Clarkson over those schools, his parents need to be incarcerated...:eek: :eek: :D

Wicked Slappaahs
04-08-2010, 07:39 PM
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I will look into trends tomorrow, but I have two tests tomorrow, so it will not be tonight.

Good god man, where are your priorities?:D

DrDemento
04-08-2010, 08:08 PM
No offense to Tech'ers out there, but if he picked Clarkson over those schools, his parents need to be incarcerated...:eek: :eek: :D

We are not privy to what kind of deal if any the 2 Ivies offerred. If they offerred him a full ride-then what he did is like repealing the law of evolution.

knsmith
04-08-2010, 08:12 PM
If, despite lower attendance numbers, we are consistently among the Top 3, then the rest of the league's attendance must also be suffering, No?

The rest of the league just has much lower attendance caps. If you ranked us by percentage of seats filled we'd probably be in the bottom third of the league...

NYhockeyguy
04-08-2010, 08:56 PM
The rest of the league just has much lower attendance caps. If you ranked us by percentage of seats filled we'd probably be in the bottom third of the league...
Team Percent Averege attendance/ capacity

Cornell - 99.9% 4264 4267
Yale - 89.6% 3124 3486
Clarkson - 88.2% 2647 3000
Harvard - 85.6 % 2378 2776
Quinnipiac - 86.6 2671 3084
Union - 84.4% 1878 2225
SLU - 73.8% 2213 3000
Princeton - 73.6 1545 2100
Dartmouth - 65.2% 2935 4500
Rensselaer - 54.8% 2859 5217
Brown - 51.9% 1294 2495
Colgate - 51.7% 1161 2246

Number wise RPI would be in 4th

Ralph Baer
04-09-2010, 12:31 AM
Today is 9 April 2010. There are 182 days (26 weeks) until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 8 October for the start of next season.

Ralph Baer
04-09-2010, 06:17 AM
I have figured out why we are signing so many forwards and so few defensemen for next fall, and I am scared.

SA is going to use 4 forwards and 1 defenseman when at even strength. :eek:

FlagDUDE08
04-09-2010, 06:28 AM
I have figured out why we are signing so many forwards and so few defensemen for next fall, and I am scared.

SA is going to use 4 forwards and 1 defenseman when at even strength. :eek:

That would give new meaning to "defensive forward"...

FlagDUDE08
04-09-2010, 06:30 AM
Team Percent Averege attendance/ capacity

Cornell - 99.9% 4264 4267
Yale - 89.6% 3124 3486
Clarkson - 88.2% 2647 3000
Harvard - 85.6 % 2378 2776
Quinnipiac - 86.6 2671 3084
Union - 84.4% 1878 2225
SLU - 73.8% 2213 3000
Princeton - 73.6 1545 2100
Dartmouth - 65.2% 2935 4500
Rensselaer - 54.8% 2859 5217
Brown - 51.9% 1294 2495
Colgate - 51.7% 1161 2246

Number wise RPI would be in 4th

I didn't think Dartmouth's crowds were generally that high.

BTW, isn't our capacity around 4800 now, what with the elimination of section 1?

Ralph Baer
04-09-2010, 06:40 AM
I didn't think Dartmouth's crowds were generally that high.

BTW, isn't our capacity around 4800 now, what with the elimination of section 1?

The BRF was listed as a sellout with 4970. http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0910/boxes/mprnren1.f20

FlagDUDE08
04-09-2010, 07:04 AM
The BRF was listed as a sellout with 4970. http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0910/boxes/mprnren1.f20

OK, close enough.

I know a few years ago it was 5152 (that's what they announced at the 2006-07 BU game, I think the only non-Freakout I've seen to sell out), but I don't work for the Field House, so I wouldn't know.

Ralph Baer
04-09-2010, 07:58 AM
OK, close enough.

I know a few years ago it was 5152 (that's what they announced at the 2006-07 BU game, I think the only non-Freakout I've seen to sell out), but I don't work for the Field House, so I wouldn't know.

It was 5013 before the renovation in the early 80s.