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Jacques Joubert
03-21-2010, 05:03 PM
If Shatt and CC leave the squad will be thin on D as well.

BU Hammer
03-21-2010, 05:30 PM
Any guesses as to what the line up will look like next year? I know it's early but with the likely losses of Bonino, Shatt, and Colby Cohen the roster is looking pretty thin. Warsofsky will be the likely leader but will they be hungry?

I'll bite...

Connolly - Trivino - Vinny Saponari
Chiasson - Megan - Nieto
Pereira - Gaudet - Santana
Ruikka - Coyle - Cisse
Glass, Gilroy, Courtnall, Victor Saponari

Warsofsky - Nicastro
Escobedo - Clendening
Rosen - ???

The forward group could look worse, especially if Nieto plays well. I love that third line. The fourth line could really be any combination of those last seven guys; just went with Ruikka, Coyle and Cisse because, well I want to see them play I guess. :rolleyes:

Of course, that assumes Cisse does come next year, and Ruikka's healthy.

The top 4 on defense should be pretty solid, though not quite as strong as the last two years. Rosen needs to take a step forward, but either way, it's a numbers game for BU on the D-man recruiting front right now, especially if both Shattenkirk and C. Cohen leave.

Agganis
03-21-2010, 05:40 PM
What do you guys think hurt more: losing Quinn or Wilson and Strait.

Quinn. In 07-08 and 08-09 for the first time in years the center wasn't behind our own goal line on every possession, and the defensemen could carry the puck up 1/2 or 2/3 of the ice on most offensive possessions. Leaving the forwards to focus on the offensive zone, and have the energy they needed to crash the net and cycle for prolonged periods of time.

Hope he moves into Parker's office within 10 minutes of their being a vacancy there.


If Shatt and CC leave the squad will be thin on D as well.

Understatement of the thread. Assuming Clendening comes Ruikka would be the 6th D, if he chooses the major junior route we will be down to 5 D:eek:

buoldtimer
03-21-2010, 05:41 PM
I'll bite...

Connolly - Trivino - Vinny Saponari
Chiasson - Megan - Nieto
Pereira - Gaudet - Santana
Ruikka - Coyle - Cisse
Glass, Gilroy, Courtnall, Victor Saponari

Warsofsky - Nicastro
Escobedo - Clendening
Rosen - ???

The forward group could look worse, especially if Nieto plays well. I love that third line. The fourth line could really be any combination of those last seven guys; just went with Ruikka, Coyle and Cisse because, well I want to see them play I guess. :rolleyes:

Of course, that assumes Cisse does come next year, and Ruikka's healthy.

The top 4 on defense should be pretty solid, though not quite as strong as the last two years. Rosen needs to take a step forward, but either way, it's a numbers game for BU on the D-man recruiting front right now, especially if both Shattenkirk and C. Cohen leave.

A couple of thoughts:

Ruikka is a D-Man, I believe. I don't know if he can play forward, also.

I'd hope Coyle and Cisse are better than 4th line players. I'd hate to think otherwise.

Agganis
03-21-2010, 05:43 PM
I'd hope Coyle and Cisse are better than 4th line players. I'd hate to think otherwise.

Yeah, IMO the question "where are the extra goals going to come from next year" has two possible answers "Coyle and Nieto" or "nowhere."

Friend_of_BU_Hockey
03-21-2010, 06:01 PM
Yeah, IMO the question "where are the extra goals going to come from next year" has two possible answers "Coyle and Nieto" or "nowhere."

Don't forget about Sahir Gill coming next year as well to join the forward corps.

BU Hammer
03-21-2010, 06:12 PM
Whoops on Ruikka and Gill. For whatever reason, had Ruikka as a forward in my mind and just forgot to double check. Then just forgot to add Gill to the list.

Not sure what happens with the third and fourth lines, but I'm not sure I see the top two lines unfolding any differently. Maybe some combination of the new freshies and Glass/Gilroy et al will make up a third line with that Gaudet group on the fourth line. My guess is it'll be something like that, though.

BU Hammer
03-21-2010, 06:22 PM
So forgetting my stupidities from above...

Connolly - Trivino - Vinny Saponari
Chiasson - Megan - Nieto
Pereira - Gaudet - Santana
Gill - Coyle - Cisse
Glass, Gilroy, Courtnall, Victor Saponari

Warsofsky - Nicastro
Escobedo - Clendening
Rosen - Ruikka

Agganis
03-21-2010, 06:31 PM
Don't forget about Sahir Gill coming next year as well to join the forward corps.

He should be solid, however he isn't leading goal scorer on the U18's or likely first round pick solid, like the other two.

And don't write BU back off into the early 2000's doldrums just yet, take away any team's first line center with 3 weeks before the playoffs and see what happens. Imagine playing BC in last year's semi's, or any NCAA game after OSU without #33:eek:

However, after seeing BU Hammer's projected lines post I think a "Don't go just yet Kevin and/or Colby" banner somewhere on campus may be a necessity.

slurpees
03-21-2010, 06:32 PM
So forgetting my stupidities from above...

Connolly - Trivino - Vinny Saponari
Chiasson - Megan - Nieto
Pereira - Gaudet - Santana
Gill - Coyle - Cisse
Glass, Gilroy, Courtnall, Victor Saponari

Warsofsky - Nicastro
Escobedo - Clendening
Rosen - Ruikka

Not sure I like Santana on the 3rd line with those two. He's more of a grinder, and I feel hed have trouble keeping up with Joe and Ross. Maybe a quicker freshman or even Andy Glass if he shows some more improvement.

BU Hammer
03-21-2010, 06:47 PM
Not sure I like Santana on the 3rd line with those two. He's more of a grinder, and I feel hed have trouble keeping up with Joe and Ross. Maybe a quicker freshman or even Andy Glass if he shows some more improvement.

I actually love the speed on that line Santana is plenty quick enough to hang with Pereira and Gaudet. The three of them were the best pure "hustle" players for BU this year.

mookie1995
03-21-2010, 06:54 PM
I'd hope Coyle and Cisse are better than 4th line players. I'd hate to think otherwise.

certainly an early candidate for "mr obvious" statement.:D



Not sure I like Santana on the 3rd line with those two. He's more of a grinder,....

i would describe Vincent like this. his goals come off hard work in tight (on the backhand :p ). until he shows us continually that he can fire the puck and hit the goalie [let alone the back of the net], he is not a 1st line winger on a team that wins titles.

--it is going to take a big leap for one or two of these incoming freshmen to score and prove to Jack that they can play the defense he demands. because honestly there is not the shooting, sniping, flashy, goal scoring talent up front to staff a 1st line for a top tier hockey team.

(returning goal scorers)
crisco 20
vincent 20
joe p 12
chaisson 7
trivino 10
gaudet 10
megan 5
gilroy 3
glass 3

..and vincent, joey, and chaisson i think have scored all those goals banging rebounds or stuffing short loose pucks in from 0-10 feet out. crisco is perhaps the only shot up front, and he was gone 10-10 in 81 career games.

people had better started working hard yesterday.

(channeling bomber:

08-09 BU Hockey: Burn The Boats
09-10 BU Hockey: Burn The Tapes)

Federal League
03-21-2010, 07:27 PM
So forgetting my stupidities from above...

Connolly - Trivino - Vinny Saponari
Chiasson - Megan - Nieto
Pereira - Gaudet - Santana
Gill - Coyle - Cisse
Glass, Gilroy, Courtnall, Victor Saponari

Warsofsky - Nicastro
Escobedo - Clendening
Rosen - Ruikka

Coyle will be higher than the 4th line right from the get-go. My guess:

Connolly - Trivino - Saponari
Chiasson - Megan - Coyle
Nieto - Gaudet - Pereira
Gill/Glass - Gilroy - Cisse/Santana

Warsofsky - Cohen
Escobedo - Nicastro
Rosen/Ruikka - Clendening

If Cohen leaves, bump Nicastro and Clendening up a rung and move Ruikka to the right side. If Clendening doesn't come, too, bump Ruikka up and pair Walk-On with Rosen.

kiwi
03-21-2010, 07:36 PM
Unfortunately, my low expectations for this season's team was on target. I felt they lost too much talent and would have too much of a celebratory hangover to really go far this year. I dreaded a season ending defeat at the hands of the Iggles so I guess reviving Tim Whitehead's career isn't half bad. I've been waiting for awhile to post about next season's recruits and college recruiting in general but wanted to wait for a decent interval after we buried the corpse. Thought I'd go on the BU recruiting thread but all the chatter is on this thread so here I am. First , with the loss of Bonino ( boy was I praying he'd stay) and the imminent departure of Shattenkirk ( and maybe C. Cohen, about whom I have very mixed feelings) does Parker have an extra scholarship or two to play with at this late date? Are they all accounted for? There appear to be one or two quality D-men out there ( at least according to Heisenberg) though I don't know if they're Junior A or collegiate material. Second,has anyone else noticed the change in player development in this country? We all know Mass schoolboy hockey ain't what it used to be ( and BC seems to have a competitive edge over our Terriers for most of the high-end locals) but what's going on in the rest of the country? Take a look at the invites to to NTDP evaluation camp. 12 of 47 come from ILLINOIS! Not Minnesota, not Michigan, and certainly not Massachusetts. What gives? Have I been asleep? Michigan has six, Minnesota, New York and Massachusetts five each. BTW, between BC and BU, they've already earned commits from three of the locals. IIRC, isn't Zach Cohen from Illinois? Anyone else? Does this mean the center of the college hockey universe is changing? I hope Jackie P and minions are planning to spend a little time in the Land of Lincoln.

mookie1995
03-21-2010, 07:45 PM
...... -- I hope Jackie P and minions are planning to spend a little time in the Land of Lincoln.

i recall now when Buddy was hired and i wondered out loud what he would contribute as an assistant coach only a handful of years younger than Jack??? I was told he had connections in CA (not the state:p ) to go and farm.

well......?;) :D

Terrier520
03-21-2010, 07:53 PM
Don't forget about Sahir Gill coming next year as well to join the forward corps.

And Alex Greer.

Terrierbyassociation
03-21-2010, 07:55 PM
And Alex Greer.

Alex Greer is going to save our program.

Agganis
03-21-2010, 08:03 PM
Alex Greer is going to save our program.

Is this gonna turn into a desevrings/hockey rast/{proviced/roported situation where years from now we are still joking about Alex Greer?

Federal League
03-21-2010, 08:04 PM
Is this gonna turn into a desevrings/hockey rast/{proviced/roported situation where years from now we are still joking about Alex Greer?

Yes.

Terrierbyassociation
03-21-2010, 08:05 PM
Yes.

I just miss the baby tiger story. :D