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I Want Shegos
02-28-2010, 02:00 AM
It's that time of the year again! The regular season has ended but the battle for the Mason Cup as well an automatic entry into the national tournament are up for grabs.

The Miami RedHawks have dominated the regular season with only two regular losses in conference all year, allowing only 39 goals in 28 games. They don't have to win the Mason Cup to be in the national tournament, but they want to finish what they started.

But this season, they are the only true "lock" to get into the tournament. As I type this, based on the PWR Rankings, 4 other CCHA teams would get in. But for Michigan State, Ferris State, Northern Michigan and Alaska, they are each right on the bubble.

MSU, Ferris and Northern will each get to wait a week before seeing their opponents, not making it to the Joe could very well be the difference between a shot at the national title or watching from home.

For Alaska, they will get to face one of the two bottom dwellers in Western Michigan. But even with head coach Jim Culhane out, the Broncos would love to play spoiler.

For Nebraska-Omaha, they are on the outside looking in. Getting to the final might sneak them in before they leave the CCHA. Standing in their way first the other bottom feeder in Bowling Green, looking to keep the faintest hopes alive.

For Michigan, Ohio State, Notre Dame, and Lake Superior State, the last chance is now. It is strange, only a year ago it was Notre Dame hoisting the Mason Cup, earning a #1 seed in the national tournament along with Michigan. Now, each is down to their last strike. Michigan will face the Lakers, Ohio State will face Notre Dame.

Let the fun begin! Who will take home the Mason Cup? Which of the bottom 4 (if any) will make the big upset? How many teams will make the big dance? (2? 3? 4?) Place bets now.

(And, because I am slightly biased, GO BULLDOGS!)

STATEdude3
02-28-2010, 02:14 AM
WMU played inspired hockey against Ferris this weekend. A team with nothing to play for os a dangerous team. If they didn't have to travel all the way to Santa's back yard they would be my pick for a first round upset.

Unomaholic
02-28-2010, 09:15 AM
I'll modify my original predictions to be a little less biased... :D

(5) Alaska over (12) WMU in 3
(6) UNO over (11) BGSU in 2
(7) UM over (10) LSSU in 3
(9) ND over (8) OSU in 2

(1) Miami over (9) ND in 2
(2) MSU over (7) UM in 3
(6) UNO over (3) FSU in 3
(4) NMU over (5) UAF in 3

(1) Miami over (6) UNO 5-3
(4) NMU over (2) MSU 4-3

(1) Miami over (4) NMU 5-2
(6) UNO over (2) MSU 4-3

Miami gets the title and an autobid, MSU and NMU make the NCAAs, UNO and FSU go into the selection day as a toss-up but based on UNO beating FSU in the tourney, UNO gets the bid (I can hope can't I?)

I think that is the most probably scenario... the only change I might make is MSU beating UNO in the third place game which might push them out of at-large contention with NMU and FSU also vying for spots.

FSUDawg
02-28-2010, 11:04 AM
(5) Alaska over (12) WMU in 2
(6) UNO over (11) BGSU in 2
(7) UM over (10) LSSU in 2
(9) ND over (8) OSU in 3

(1) Miami over (9) ND in 2
(2) MSU over (7) UM in 3
(3) FSU over (6) UNO in 3
(4) NMU over (5) UAF in 2

(1) Miami over (4) NMU 5-3
(2) MSU over (3) FSU 3-2

(2) MSU over (1) Miami 4-2
(4) NMU over (3) FSU 5-3

MSU gets the autobid and Miami and NMU make the NCAA's. Unfortunately my beloved bulldogs are on the bubble and get shut out.

bronconick
02-28-2010, 11:27 AM
As far as I can tell, Miami is obviously a lock, and anyone else that wants to go from the CCHA needs to win a game at the Joe, so we're probably looking at 3 teams. There might be some crazy scenario where NMU or UA_ could lose to the other in 3 games and sneak in, but that probably relies on a lot of bedwetting elsewhere.

redwings8831
02-28-2010, 01:02 PM
(5) Alaska over (12) WMU in 2
(11) BGSU over (5) UNO in 3
(7) UM over (10) LSSU in 2
(9) ND over (8) OSU in 3

(1) Miami over (11) BGSU in 2
(2) MSU over (9) ND in 3
(7) UM over (3) FSU in 2
(4) NMU over (5) UAF in 3

(7) UM over (1) Miami 3-1
(4) NMU over (2) MSU 3-2

(7) UM over (4) NMU 5-2
(1) Miami over (2) MSU 4-3

davyd83
02-28-2010, 01:54 PM
(5) Alaska over (12) WMU in 2
(11) BGSU over (5) UNO in 3
(7) UM over (10) LSSU in 2
(9) ND over (8) OSU in 3

(1) Miami over (11) BGSU in 2
(2) MSU over (9) ND in 3
(7) UM over (3) FSU in 2
(4) NMU over (5) UAF in 3

(7) UM over (1) Miami 3-1
(4) NMU over (2) MSU 3-2

(7) UM over (4) NMU 5-2
(1) Miami over (2) MSU 4-3


That's a pretty bold prediction for a Michigan team whose starting goaltending is in doubt.

WildcatGoal
02-28-2010, 02:12 PM
(5) Alaska over (12) WMU in 3
(6) UNO over (11) BGSU in 2
(7) UM over (10) LSSU in 2
(9) ND over (8) OSU in 3

(1) Miami over (9) ND in 2
(2) MSU over (7) UM in 3
(6) UNO over (3) FSU in 3
(4) NMU over (5) UAF in 3

(1) MU over (6) UNO
(4) NMU over (2) MSU

(4) NMU over (1) MU 3-2
(2) MSU over (6) UNO

RedHawksFan10
02-28-2010, 02:27 PM
(5) Alaska over (12) WMU in 2
(11) BGSU over (5) UNO in 3
(7) UM over (10) LSSU in 2
(9) ND over (8) OSU in 3

(1) Miami over (11) BGSU in 2
(2) MSU over (9) ND in 3
(7) UM over (3) FSU in 2
(4) NMU over (5) UAF in 3

(7) UM over (1) Miami 3-1
(4) NMU over (2) MSU 3-2

(7) UM over (4) NMU 5-2
(1) Miami over (2) MSU 4-3

I'm pretty sure that doesn't even make sense considering that Miami will be playing the winner of he ND/OSU series. And BG over UNO? really? Considering the way UNO has not only been playing the second half of their season, but the last two weeks as well, with a win over Miami and a win last night of Bemiji?

davyd83
02-28-2010, 02:45 PM
I'm pretty sure that doesn't even make sense considering that Miami will be playing the winner of he ND/OSU series. And BG over UNO? really? Considering the way UNO has not only been playing the second half of their season, but the last two weeks as well, with a win over Miami and a win last night of Bemiji?

That's not a certainty. The CCHA uses a soft bracket, where teams are re-seeded after each round. Miami will play the lowest remaining seed in the second round. If there are no upsets, Miami will get the OSU/ND winner. But if LSSU, BG or WMU pulls an upset, Miami would play whoever is ranked lowest.

In the NCAA tourney a hard bracket is used where the 16 teams are seeded and 1 plays 16, 2 vs 15, etc, with some changes possibly made to avoid 1st round conference matchups. But once the bracket is set, it stays. So you have a possibility in the Frozen Four for a 1 vs 4 semifinal and a 6 vs 1 semi on the other side of the bracket.

RedHawksFan10
02-28-2010, 02:49 PM
That's not a certainty. The CCHA uses a soft bracket, where teams are re-seeded after each round. Miami will play the lowest remaining seed in the second round. If there are no upsets, Miami will get the OSU/ND winner. But if LSSU, BG or WMU pulls an upset, Miami would play whoever is ranked lowest.

In the NCAA tourney a hard bracket is used where the 16 teams are seeded and 1 plays 16, 2 vs 15, etc, with some changes possibly made to avoid 1st round conference matchups. But once the bracket is set, it stays. So you have a possibility in the Frozen Four for a 1 vs 4 semifinal and a 6 vs 1 semi on the other side of the bracket.

Makes sense. I didn't know that. But even then, the only team of those three that I could even remotely see pulling off an upset is WMU. They have a great goalie, and can be one of those dangerous teams despite being at the bottom of the barrel. I could never see BG overcoming UNO.

It's Maverick Hockey Time
02-28-2010, 06:13 PM
UNO is playing to well right now for Bowling Green to come into Omaha and win. Lets not also forget that UNO may have some revenge in mind for Bowling Green after a screwup by the CCHA officials may have cost UNO a point in the standings.

mcfarljd
02-28-2010, 06:28 PM
That's a pretty bold prediction for a Michigan team whose starting goaltending is in doubt.

And who Miami already smoked in Ann Arbor earlier this year.

mcfarljd
02-28-2010, 06:29 PM
That's not a certainty. The CCHA uses a soft bracket, where teams are re-seeded after each round. Miami will play the lowest remaining seed in the second round. If there are no upsets, Miami will get the OSU/ND winner. But if LSSU, BG or WMU pulls an upset, Miami would play whoever is ranked lowest.

In the NCAA tourney a hard bracket is used where the 16 teams are seeded and 1 plays 16, 2 vs 15, etc, with some changes possibly made to avoid 1st round conference matchups. But once the bracket is set, it stays. So you have a possibility in the Frozen Four for a 1 vs 4 semifinal and a 6 vs 1 semi on the other side of the bracket.

He did blow it though in his second round predictions, trying to avoid playing NMU until the CCHA final, they'd be matched up in Marquette not at the Joe with his thoughts.

UNOMav
02-28-2010, 06:50 PM
UNO, being the higher seed, is favored over BG, but stranger things have happened in these first round series. UNO needs to come out and take care of business. Don't give BG any reason for hope, because if they do UNO could be bounced out pretty quick.

Hockeybuckeye
02-28-2010, 07:32 PM
ND is in for a treat playing in the "old rink" which holds maybe 900. OSU abandoned it to the newly formed women's team after moving to the NHL quality arena of the Schott (GOD I hate that name!!) back in '99. OSU has a multi year contract to host the state wrestling tournament in the Schott and as consequence bumps the hockey team out which is really demeaning to the program and it's players. Back when the old rink was our home ice Red Berenson used to say OSU should be forced from the CCHA because the rink was substandard to the conference and yet here we are back in it again. :mad:

davyd83
02-28-2010, 08:06 PM
ND is in for a treat playing in the "old rink" which holds maybe 900. OSU abandoned it to the newly formed women's team after moving to the NHL quality arena of the Schott (GOD I hate that name!!) back in '99. OSU has a multi year contract to host the state wrestling tournament in the Schott and as consequence bumps the hockey team out which is really demeaning to the program and it's players. Back when the old rink was our home ice Red Berenson used to say OSU should be forced from the CCHA because the rink was substandard to the conference and yet here we are back in it again. :mad:

Unfortunately, the options are pretty limited. It would be quite expensive to rent Nationwide. What about the old "Chiller," the fairgrounds Coliseum?

Hockeybuckeye
02-28-2010, 08:32 PM
Unfortunately, the options are pretty limited. It would be quite expensive to rent Nationwide. What about the old "Chiller," the fairgrounds Coliseum?
The coliseum is booked for high school basketball playoffs and is every year, all other rinks in town have even less seating than OSU's old rink although I'm not sure of the capacity of the Ice Hause where the Jackets practice but they are probably hosting like everyone, high school playoffs. Playoffs at Nationwide will never happen as the cost would be equivalent to what they get to allow wrestling at the Schott so if they were willing to do that then why kick them out of their arena in the first place?

davyd83
02-28-2010, 09:07 PM
The coliseum is booked for high school basketball playoffs and is every year, all other rinks in town have even less seating than OSU's old rink although I'm not sure of the capacity of the Ice Hause where the Jackets practice but they are probably hosting like everyone, high school playoffs. Playoffs at Nationwide will never happen as the cost would be equivalent to what they get to allow wrestling at the Schott so if they were willing to do that then why kick them out of their arena in the first place?

The other problem with booking any other venue is that it would have to be done months in advance, without knowing if it would actually be necessary.

Hockeybuckeye
02-28-2010, 09:22 PM
The other problem with booking any other venue is that it would have to be done months in advance, without knowing if it would actually be necessary.

So true. I just checked and the Ice Haus has 750 fixed seats and capacity for 1500. For those of you around the CCHA it's an extra, smaller arena attached to Nationwide Arena, home to the Blue Jackets. It's the Jacket's practice ice and is an EXACT replica of the playing ice down to the emblems under the ice and the ads along the boards. And as I thought they do have high school hockey there next Saturday night and figure skating exhibitions associated with the Arnold Fitness Classic during the daytime Saturday. What can I say? S**ks to be us!