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Dirty
03-01-2010, 02:53 PM
I'm dead serious about this: If I were Marvin I'd get a court injunction, this is totally amatuer on the part of the WCHA. If I were the Pres. of the University I would not take this laying down. Kurtz show some spine and stick up for your team!

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Husky4Life
03-01-2010, 02:53 PM
I'm dead serious about this: If I were Marvin I'd get a court injunction, this is totally amatuer on the part of the WCHA. If I were the Pres. of the University I would not take this laying down. Kurtz show some spine and stick up for your team!

I think the kid could do it on his own just like the fatties on the vikings did. I am guessing they don't want to turn it into anymore of a circus then it already is. The WCHA has themselves to blame for that. The Marvin's have lots of money as well, should get the best legal representation they can find! :)

ts8801
03-01-2010, 02:57 PM
Feel better? not really, just saying what I feel to be the case. I think whenever North Dakota plays st. cloud in the future he better keep his head up because he has a target on him now, and not just from the Sioux. And what a surprise that all of the st. cloud fans are pi s s ing and moaning about a suspension for a 2nd illegal hit to the head that injured another player:rolleyes:

oh, and about the Lammy comment... maybe if marvin wouldn't have skated away and hid behind the refs this situation would have had some resolution.

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willythekid
03-01-2010, 02:59 PM
I'm dead serious about this: If I were Marvin I'd get a court injunction, this is totally amatuer on the part of the WCHA. If I were the Pres. of the University I would not take this laying down. Kurtz show some spine and stick up for your team!

what planet do you live on?:D

Reverse Sanity
03-01-2010, 03:00 PM
3 games is a tragedy to solid, physical hockey. The game is evolving into a panzy-mamby-pamby style of hockey. There is no longer a need to keep your head up anymore. And if you are 5'7 and a buck sixty dripping wet, you can still poke, smack and use your stick against a 6'2, 220 guy with no worries about any consequences. I remember asking Ryan Malone the biggest difference in playing in the NHL from college, and he said "if a little guy slashes my shins or hands at SCSU, nothing happens, if he does it in the NHL, he gets his *** kicked and never does it again. The hit was from in front of Geoffrion and solid as can be. It is what hockey was. I can't wait for the new pink jerseys coming soon. It is a sad day. Shame on the WCHA for whimping out on this one.

scsutommyboy
03-01-2010, 03:14 PM
I'm dead serious about this: If I were Marvin I'd get a court injunction, this is totally amatuer on the part of the WCHA. If I were the Pres. of the University I would not take this laying down. Kurtz show some spine and stick up for your team!

Wow! a court injuction is going to far. Take a deep breath and relax. The sad thing is I wouldn't be surprised if this Marvin's last year.:( Why stay and play when every little thing you do you called out on. Finger left for the same reason.

That hit was no more than a 2 minute penalty. The sad thing is the next time any hit like that happens a guy is going to have to be suspened. If it happens in the final five and the guy misses a NCAA game things are really going to heat up. Hopefully it is a wisconsin guy doing the checking next time.

scsutommyboy
03-01-2010, 03:25 PM
3 games is a tragedy to solid, physical hockey. The game is evolving into a panzy-mamby-pamby style of hockey. There is no longer a need to keep your head up anymore. And if you are 5'7 and a buck sixty dripping wet, you can still poke, smack and use your stick against a 6'2, 220 guy with no worries about any consequences. I remember asking Ryan Malone the biggest difference in playing in the NHL from college, and he said "if a little guy slashes my shins or hands at SCSU, nothing happens, if he does it in the NHL, he gets his *** kicked and never does it again. The hit was from in front of Geoffrion and solid as can be. It is what hockey was. I can't wait for the new pink jerseys coming soon. It is a sad day. Shame on the WCHA for whimping out on this one.

Well said! Like I said last week the WCHA is turning into woman's hockey.:( No true hockey fan thinks this is a good thing. I know the troll UND fans like it because of the hit on Genoway, but this decision will impact their team sooner or later and then they will crying about it.....

Dirty Bottles
03-01-2010, 03:43 PM
I think the 3 games is suspension is really a make up call of sorts. They should have given him 3-5 games (at least) after the Chay hit.

But they didn't and they knew they screwed up so the last hit gives them their opportunity to TRY and make it right.

An injuction? really? :eek:

scsutommyboy
03-01-2010, 04:25 PM
I think the 3 games is suspension is really a make up call of sorts. They should have given him 3-5 games (at least) after the Chay hit.

But they didn't and they knew they screwed up so the last hit gives them their opportunity to TRY and make it right.

An injuction? really? :eek:

My problem with it is that this should not be someting a player gets suspended for. If he would have checked someone from behind or got his elbow up I could see why they would give him more than a game because of the Chay hit. This should not be more than a 2 minute penalty that was missed.

pjoyn
03-01-2010, 04:31 PM
Here is my problem with it:


“I don’t think there’s any argument from anyone that it wasn’t an illegal hit,” WCHA commissioner Bruce McLeod said.

If it wasn't an illegal hit, how can you suspend the kid?

MavsFan
03-01-2010, 04:33 PM
Here is my problem with it:



If it wasn't an illegal hit, how can you suspend the kid?He's saying that no one is claiming that it wasn't an illegal hit; in other words, everyone agrees that it was illegal.

pjoyn
03-01-2010, 04:37 PM
He's saying that no one is claiming that it wasn't an illegal hit; in other words, everyone agrees that it was illegal.

That's not the way I read it. I see it as, "No one is arguing that it wasn't an illegal hit."

*** EDIT ***
I went back and read it again. I guess I read it differently, but MavsFan is right. Just too many double negatives for me. =)

willythekid
03-01-2010, 05:01 PM
“I don’t think there’s any argument from anyone that it wasn’t an illegal hit,” WCHA commissioner Bruce McLeod said.

I guess McLeod hasn't listened to the st. cloud fanbase:p

ScoobyDoo
03-01-2010, 05:03 PM
“I don’t think there’s any argument from anyone that it wasn’t an illegal hit,” WCHA commissioner Bruce McLeod said.

I guess McLeod hasn't listened to the st. cloud fanbase:p

Perhaps they have a different rulebook?

http://www.westerncollegehockeyblog.com/2009/11/23/1169972/pio-to-wcha-that-stuff-in-the


The actual rule states "A player shall not make contact with an opposing player's head or neck area in any manner." with the added note: "The rules committee instructs officials to use a zero tolerance policy in this area."

Montelena
03-01-2010, 05:12 PM
I'm dead serious about this: If I were Marvin I'd get a court injunction, this is totally amatuer on the part of the WCHA. If I were the Pres. of the University I would not take this laying down. Kurtz show some spine and stick up for your team!

The President of SCSU has much greater things to worry about. This decision came down from an executive committee - faculty reps, coaches, league officials etc. It's done and the team must move on.

Marvin is a great kid. I feel very bad for him. He plays with energy and plays hard. He's become a scapegoat for the league. Ultimately this digs a deeper hole for the league. Future infractions will have to be handled the same way for others.

Officiating in the league is marginal at best. Adding another official just diluted the overall quality of on-ice officials. There are not enough quality part-tme officials out there. It's a no-win situation.

It was a pleasure to watch the USA v Canada game yesterday. There were minimal penalties even though it was a very physical game. There could easily have been 30 infractions called by WCHA standards.

Marginal officiating, rules changes and added time-outs have done nothing but take from the enjoyment of the game.

It's probably time for McLeod to step down. The old boy network and nepotism is hurting the league right now.The league needs to move in a better direction and it obviously won't happen with the current regime.

Skeeterman
03-01-2010, 05:28 PM
Wow! a court injuction is going to far. Take a deep breath and relax. The sad thing is I wouldn't be surprised if this Marvin's last year.:( Why stay and play when every little thing you do you called out on. Finger left for the same reason.

That hit was no more than a 2 minute penalty. The sad thing is the next time any hit like that happens a guy is going to have to be suspened. If it happens in the final five and the guy misses a NCAA game things are really going to heat up. Hopefully it is a wisconsin guy doing the checking next time.

Correction: Finger left because of Craig Dahl.

goldy_331
03-01-2010, 05:32 PM
Correction: Finger left because of Craig Dahl.

I thought it was cause he finally got let out of the bathroom. :confused:

Husky4Life
03-01-2010, 05:35 PM
The President of SCSU has much greater things to worry about. This decision came down from an executive committee - faculty reps, coaches, league officials etc. It's done and the team must move on.

Marvin is a great kid. I feel very bad for him. He plays with energy and plays hard. He's become a scapegoat for the league. Ultimately this digs a deeper hole for the league. Future infractions will have to be handled the same way for others.

Officiating in the league is marginal at best. Adding another official just diluted the overall quality of on-ice officials. There are not enough quality part-tme officials out there. It's a no-win situation.

It was a pleasure to watch the USA v Canada game yesterday. There were minimal penalties even though it was a very physical game. There could easily have been 30 infractions called by WCHA standards.

Marginal officiating, rules changes and added time-outs have done nothing but take from the enjoyment of the game.

It's probably time for McLeod to step down. The old boy network and nepotism is hurting the league right now.The league needs to move in a better direction and it obviously won't happen with the current regime.

Is it Just Mcduffus and the WCHA or is the NCAA to blame?

Goon
03-01-2010, 05:38 PM
Well said! Like I said last week the WCHA is turning into woman's hockey.:( No true hockey fan thinks this is a good thing. I know the troll UND fans like it because of the hit on Genoway, but this decision will impact their team sooner or later and then they will crying about it.....

Really! I don't think I have ever watched a UND player take out two all-American and Hobey Baker Candidates in the same season with questionable high hits. That has to be a record. Marvin is finally paying for his hit on Genoway, the league took a fire storm of criticism because of their flimsy ruling and finally the chicken came home to roost.

TeamPoland
03-01-2010, 05:40 PM
I will take off my "red tinted" glasses for a second.

The hit to Blake was illegal, as it was a hit to the head. Fine, I will agree with that. The ref missed the call as it should be a 2 minute penalty. So is there a rule in that rule book that says if the 2 minute penalty on the ice is missed, the player will get a 3 game suspension? Perhaps interference penalties that are missed should be a 1 game suspension. If this ties to the UND incident where he should have rec'd a couple of games for the Chay hit that is fine as long as it is stated as so. Does this mean that the mandatory 1 game suspension is no longer in effect?

Baby Bruce and the WCHA just got bullied, plain and simple.

This is just what I think.