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  • #1

    February 23rd NCAA rankings

    Obviously I noticed Plattsburgh dropped a spot right away. Anyone with more time than I have give me a rational explanation for this?

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    East Region Region Record Overall 
1. Norwich 16-1-4 20-1-4 
2. Oswego State 22-2-0 23-2-0 
3. Middlebury 14-3-4 16-4-4 
4. Plattsburgh State 17-4-4 17-4-4 
5. Bowdoin 15-5-1 17-5-1 
6. Amherst 15-3-3 16-4-4 
7. Williams 13-5-3 15-5-3 
8. Elmira 16-7-1 17-7-1 
9. Trinity (Connecticut) 12-7-2 14-8-2 
10. Manhattanville 17-6-1 18-6-1 
11. Neumann 14-8-3 14-8-3 
12. Fredonia State 16-6-2 16-7-2 
13. Hamilton 13-7-2 14-8-2 
14. Wentworth Institute 16-4-1 19-4-1 
15. Curry 10-5-1 16-8-1 
  
West Region Region Record Overall 
1. St. Norbert 19-2-3 19-3-3 
2. Gustavus Adolphus 18-5-2 18-5-2 
3. St. Scholastica 16-4-5 17-4-5 
4. Hamline 16-5-4 16-5-4 
5. Wisconsin-River Falls 17-8-2 17-8-2 
6. Augsburg 15-9-1 15-9-1 
7. Adrian 22-2-0 22-3-0
    Steve
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    Plattsburgh State Class of '99

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  • #2
    Re: February 23rd NCAA rankings

    Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but i believe Adrian was higher in last week's rankings as well.

    Trinity jumped Manhattanville too and seperated Elmira/Manhattanville
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    • #3
      Re: February 23rd NCAA rankings

      Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post
      Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but i believe Adrian was higher in last week's rankings as well.
      Correct. Adrian was sixth last week. GA and CSS also flip-flopped for 2/3.
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      • #4
        Re: February 23rd NCAA rankings

        I guess my thinking is that Middlebury beat Skidmore and Castleton, both teams Plattsburgh has beaten this year. So what pushed them over the Cardinals in the rankings? Seems arbitrary to me....

        Duh....it's the NCAA - my bad!
        Steve
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        Plattsburgh State Class of '99

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        • #5
          Re: February 23rd NCAA rankings

          Originally posted by spwood View Post
          I guess my thinking is that Middlebury beat Skidmore and Castleton, both teams Plattsburgh has beaten this year. So what pushed them over the Cardinals in the rankings? Seems arbitrary to me....

          Duh....it's the NCAA - my bad!
          Perhaps that was enough to push Middlebury ahead in COP, which was in turn enough to push Midd ahead of Platty?

          I don't know, it seems odd to me.
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          ECACW Champ x11: 81, 82, 87, 92, 06, 07, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17
          NEWHL Champ x5: 18, 19, 20, 22, 23
          NCAA DIII Champ x10-ish: 87, 92, 01, 07, 08, 14, 15, 16, 17, 19
          NCAA DIII Runner-up x4-ish: 86, 90, 06, 08
          NCAA DII Runner-up x2: 81, 82

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          • #6
            Re: February 23rd NCAA rankings

            Originally posted by CARDS_rule_the_Burgh View Post
            Perhaps that was enough to push Middlebury ahead in COP, which was in turn enough to push Midd ahead of Platty?

            I don't know, it seems odd to me.
            Could Elmira continuing to tank make Plattsburgh's tie look worse?
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            • #7
              Re: February 23rd NCAA rankings

              IIRC, once your ranked, your always ranked, in terms of record vs. ranked teams??
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              • #8
                Re: February 23rd NCAA rankings

                Originally posted by spwood View Post
                I guess my thinking is that Middlebury beat Skidmore and Castleton, both teams Plattsburgh has beaten this year. So what pushed them over the Cardinals in the rankings? Seems arbitrary to me....

                Duh....it's the NCAA - my bad!
                Huh? I didn't see Norwich passing Oswego. The only categories that NU wins are the two SOS metrics

                Code:
                Norwich vs    Oswego 
WIN 0.8571 0 0.9167 1 
OWP 0.5515 1 0.5278 0 
OOP 0.5246 1 0.5180 0 
H2H 0- 0-0 0 0- 0-0 0 
COP 3- 0-2 0 6- 0-0 1 
RNK 7- 1-2 0 7- 1-0 1
 ======================
====================== 
PTS        2        3
                2007-2008 ECAC East/NESCAC Interlock Pick 'em winner
                2007-2008 Last Person Standing Winner,
                2013-2014 Last Person Standing Winner (tie)
                2016-2017 Last Person Standing Winner

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                • #9
                  Re: February 23rd NCAA rankings

                  Unless they are counting ties as .5 wins. Then NU's record vs. RNK is 8-1, compared to 7-1 for Oswego, giving them 3 of 5.
                  Go 'Wick!

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                  • #10
                    Re: February 23rd NCAA rankings

                    Originally posted by NUProf View Post
                    Huh? I didn't see Norwich passing Oswego. The only categories that NU wins are the two SOS metrics
                    WOW....I missed that one as well. Can it be that the Interlock is now getting a ton more respect than it did last week (by playing and beating) each other? Or could they be setting up Oswego to have to play a first round game with Adrian? A hedge in case Elmira doesn't make it....

                    Is it me or is the smoke-filled room filled up a little earlier this year?

                    EDIT: Actually, the COP and RNK are so close they are probably considered ties. Norwich wins SOS, which we know the NCAA likes, and Oswego wins just winning %....maybe not as big a stretch as I thought.
                    Last edited by spwood; 02-23-2010, 04:14 PM.
                    Steve
                    Penn State Class of '95
                    Plattsburgh State Class of '99

                    If corn oil is made from corn, and vegetable oil is made from vegetables, then what is baby oil made from?

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                    • #11
                      Re: February 23rd NCAA rankings

                      Originally posted by jerrynu26 View Post
                      Unless they are counting ties as .5 wins. Then NU's record vs. RNK is 8-1, compared to 7-1 for Oswego, giving them 3 of 5.
                      If it's the normal .5W, .5T, that 8-2 for 0.800 compared to 7-1 for 0.875.

                      I'm an NU fan, and I don't see this at all. The main reason, of course this matters is the likelihood that only one East team will get a first round bye.
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                      2013-2014 Last Person Standing Winner (tie)
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                      • #12
                        Re: February 23rd NCAA rankings

                        USCHO Pairwise Rankings have been updated accordingly.
                        “You drive by some of these rinks in the winter and there isn't anybody out there. It's kind of sad, actually...Here it’s go to the rink, pay for your ice time and practice for an hour where we could just walk to the rink and skate for four hours if we wanted to...It was just a lot of fun. I wish I could go back and be eight years old for a couple days" -Neal Broten

                        2010-11 DIII Commitments
                        19gp, (23-24-47), +27

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                        • #13
                          Re: February 23rd NCAA rankings

                          Originally posted by spwood View Post
                          WOW....I missed that one as well. Can it be that the Interlock is now getting a ton more respect than it did last week (by playing and beating) each other? Or could they be setting up Oswego to have to play a first round game with Adrian? A hedge in case Elmira doesn't make it....

                          Is it me or is the smoke-filled room filled up a little earlier this year?

                          EDIT: Actually, the COP and RNK are so close they are probably considered ties. Norwich wins SOS, which we know the NCAA likes, and Oswego wins just winning %....maybe not as big a stretch as I thought.
                          IIRC,

                          Adrian cannot play Oswego without flying.
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                          "The Prezidential Three - Elmira, Oswego, Norwich" © Joecct
                          GO EAGLES!!! R.I.P. L.H. #4 In our hearts forever
                          GO LAKERS!!!
                          GO CADETS!!! R.I.P. Charlie Crosby '63
                          "Reisweber trying to circle in front of the net, he does, HE SCORES! that's it! Oswego State has done it!! The Lakers take home the first NCAA title of any kind in school history. It's celebration time in Upstate New York!"
                          Oswego State '09

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                          • #14
                            Re: February 23rd NCAA rankings

                            Originally posted by Matthew Webb View Post
                            USCHO Pairwise Rankings have been updated accordingly.
                            With the new rankings list (this is what is crazy about this system) Norwich goes to 7-1-1 from 7-1-2. This increase their RNK to 0.833, so because somebody who was ranked became unranked, Norwich's portfolio looks better. Still doesn't explain NU over OSW, but we'll take it
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                            2007-2008 Last Person Standing Winner,
                            2013-2014 Last Person Standing Winner (tie)
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                            • #15
                              Re: February 23rd NCAA rankings

                              Originally posted by PrezdeJohnson09 View Post
                              IIRC,

                              Adrian cannot play Oswego without flying.
                              We'll be flying when we get there !

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