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CHFAN222
02-06-2010, 07:11 PM
Watching this game gave me an idea. Why haven't people talked about Notre Dame possibly hosting an outdoor game? It could be a decent draw and against a school such as North Dakota or UNH they could get a decent crowd to travel to it.

ericredaxe
02-06-2010, 07:32 PM
Watching this game gave me an idea. Why haven't people talked about Notre Dame possibly hosting an outdoor game? It could be a decent draw and against a school such as North Dakota or UNH they could get a decent crowd to travel to it.

I think you will see this to be a growing trend... particularly at schools that have their own D1 football stadium.

Puck Swami
02-06-2010, 07:38 PM
Putting up the rink costs $250,000 or so, so you need to make sure you more than cover costs.

Not every D-I school should try it.

CHFAN222
02-06-2010, 07:46 PM
Putting up the rink costs $250,000 or so, so you need to make sure you more than cover costs.

Not every D-I school should try it.

True not every D1 should try it. However this is Notre Dame we are talking about. They have the facilities and the name brand to pull off something like this. I mentioned playing the game against North Dakota or New Hampshire because those are two schools that don't have the facilities to have outdoor games in their area and whos fans would jump on the chance to see a game like this.

Carmine Scarpaglia
02-06-2010, 08:22 PM
Watching this game gave me an idea. Why haven't people talked about Notre Dame possibly hosting an outdoor game? It could be a decent draw and against a school such as North Dakota or UNH they could get a decent crowd to travel to it.

UNH fans are going to flock to Indiana just for an outdoor game? North Dakota would send 5x as many fans as UNH for several reasons. And I'm not honking on UNH. But let's be real here. That's not a big fanbase. Especially one that would leave New Hampshire for Indiana for a game that doesn't involve a national championship.

If Notre Dame were to do it, they'd want to do it against a Big Ten type team with a big following - preferably a team they have a good football history with. Not a team they have no history with from the east. As swami mentioned, you would need to put a lot of butts in the seats to offset the costs of constructing the rink.

MinnesotaNorthStar
02-06-2010, 08:29 PM
Putting up the rink costs $250,000 or so, so you need to make sure you more than cover costs.

Not every D-I school should try it.If that's what it cost for Wisconsin to do it...spend more. The ice at this game is terrible...

STATEdude3
02-06-2010, 08:33 PM
This trend is getting out of hand...if Wisconsin can only get 55,000 while practically giving tickets away, then other schools should take notice. This is no longer a special thing. This game in Madison is very boring and lacks any unique attributes outside a 3 minute song called "Jump Around." Let's put an end to all this.

I am debating whether or not I want to watch MSU play at Michigan in December...I was at the Cold War in 2001 and what made that great was the novelty of the situation. There are too many of these games and the atmosphere is becoming very dull.

The Paragon of Virtue
02-06-2010, 08:38 PM
Watching this game gave me an idea. Why haven't people talked about Notre Dame possibly hosting an outdoor game? It could be a decent draw and against a school such as North Dakota or UNH they could get a decent crowd to travel to it.
Notre Dame's hockey fanbase is that big?

Rowdy Jo
02-06-2010, 08:46 PM
This will void my statement that there is no touchdown jesus in hockey....although, rudy still should have been cut

WeWantMore
02-06-2010, 09:05 PM
This trend is getting out of hand...if Wisconsin can only get 55,000 while practically giving tickets away, then other schools should take notice. This is no longer a special thing. This game in Madison is very boring and lacks any unique attributes outside a 3 minute song called "Jump Around." Let's put an end to all this.



Oh no, no, no. Tickets were priced way way too high for the Camp Randall game. Could have gotten 20,000 more people with a more reasonable price structure.

STATEdude3
02-06-2010, 09:09 PM
I know the face value was high, but I have relatives that are employees of UW that were offered tickets thhrough their departments for $10 each. My point is that the market for these games is quickly becoming very small. The NHL has the money and size to market these types of events. whereas college hockey does not.

Gibber
02-06-2010, 09:29 PM
UNH fans are going to flock to Indiana just for an outdoor game? North Dakota would send 5x as many fans as UNH for several reasons. And I'm not honking on UNH. But let's be real here. That's not a big fanbase. Especially one that would leave New Hampshire for Indiana for a game that doesn't involve a national championship.

If Notre Dame were to do it, they'd want to do it against a Big Ten type team with a big following - preferably a team they have a good football history with. Not a team they have no history with from the east. As swami mentioned, you would need to put a lot of butts in the seats to offset the costs of constructing the rink.

Exactly what I was thinking when I read the first post.. I appreciate the respect, but UNH wouldn't bring more than a few hundred people. It would have to be Michigan, I would imagine...

bigmrg74
02-06-2010, 09:44 PM
Exactly what I was thinking when I read the first post.. I appreciate the respect, but UNH wouldn't bring more than a few hundred people. It would have to be Michigan, I would imagine...

Why not Minnesota?? They're a Big Ten school and they should be able to send plenty of fans to the game.

Scottyp
02-06-2010, 09:56 PM
I thought Minnesota planned on having an outdoor game next year. Not sure who it is against though. I know some people talked about a UW - UMTC alternating outdoor game.

Gurtholfin
02-06-2010, 10:48 PM
This trend is getting out of hand...if Wisconsin can only get 55,000 while practically giving tickets away, then other schools should take notice. This is no longer a special thing. This game in Madison is very boring and lacks any unique attributes outside a 3 minute song called "Jump Around." Let's put an end to all this.

I am debating whether or not I want to watch MSU play at Michigan in December...I was at the Cold War in 2001 and what made that great was the novelty of the situation. There are too many of these games and the atmosphere is becoming very dull.

I agree that it's out of hand. UW just did this 4 years ago at Lambeau and I hope that they wait 20 years before they do it again.

Also, I'm so sick of hearing that "This is how these guys all started playing on a pond, blah blah blah."

My 11 year old son has played 99% of the hockey that he's played in his life in rinks. They need to stop trying to romanticize it so much as it doesn't even remotely remind me of the backwater slough that I grew up playing on.

Play it on Dollar Lake in Eagle River(site of the US Pond Hockey Championships) and then you can say it reminds us of our youth.

Sugarisland
02-06-2010, 10:50 PM
It also seems to me that these games are playing Russian Roulette with th weather. Sooner or later one will be a bust. I agree that these are going overboard. ND would have to have the game against a big school whose fans travel well. And I also agree that ND's hockey fan base is not that big (yet).

IrishHockeyFan
02-07-2010, 12:03 AM
Notre Dame has explored options for an outdoor game. You remember when your mom used to talk about your eyes being bigger than your stomach? This is what this would amount to, IMHO. They are likely about 3 outdoor games too late for this to work, wherever they think of doing it.

The Rube
02-07-2010, 03:16 AM
I thought Minnesota planned on having an outdoor game next year. Not sure who it is against though. I know some people talked about a UW - UMTC alternating outdoor game.

Rumor is WI doesn't like it, as that would be a conference game, and I understand their point.

I love the outdoor games, but it should only be one a year. After that, it's not a novelty/special event.

What would be kinda cool, if it's possible, have it be the previous national champions vs the runner-up rematch, at a random venue. You'd have fanbases for the most part, and it'd be a good angle for the media (did the champ get lucky? Vengeance [sorta] game, etc).

blockski
02-07-2010, 10:14 AM
Wisconsin was not giving tickets away, at least not any more than the usual promos. Tickets were priced to maximize revenue, not attendance.

There is indeed a risk of too many of these things, and the college hockey powers that be really ought to ensure that there's only one a season. Michigan and Michigan State have dibs on next year.

Jeff_Jackson_for_Pres.
02-07-2010, 10:44 AM
Watching this game gave me an idea. Why haven't people talked about Notre Dame possibly hosting an outdoor game? It could be a decent draw and against a school such as North Dakota or UNH they could get a decent crowd to travel to it.

Can't say much, but there are plans in the rumor mill...