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dxmnkd316
01-17-2010, 07:03 PM
Not hockey, but N.J.I.T. in basketball didn't win a game for something like two years.

justinD
01-17-2010, 07:42 PM
I believe they did shut it down. (http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,17081/MITEliminatesHockeyPrograms) This is the team I was thinking of in my post. 17-125-3 before they finally decided enough was enough and called it quits. The article refers to 10 seasons and another 36 losses, but the history tab shows just 8 seasons. Hard to believe people this smart thought that needed to go on that long.

The guy I coach with this year was the last coach for MIT. He had the program turned around in one year. In his only season he tied the record for career wins, and had three recruits accepted (not an easy thing at a school like MIT). It's really too bad they killed the program when they did.

But yes, the MIT women are the worst college hockey program ever.

DrDemento
01-17-2010, 08:36 PM
RPI's 3-19 season in 65-66 was painful to watch.

Their three victories were against a club team (Penn) and two D-3 schools (Middlebury and Hamilton). RPI goalie, Dick Greenlaw, set a record for saves in a 9-0 loss to BU which I think still stands. (He was named one of the 3 Stars despite gving up nine goals.)

Ralph: You know I remember that year well-total futility. Lost to Clarkson 16-1 and Northeastern 14-0. I was in Boston for the BU game and Greenlaw was credited with 78 saves (I counted far more). Our leading scorer was a defenseman!

dude
01-17-2010, 08:45 PM
My vote is for UAA's winless WCHA season. It's really hard to do worse than that.

We owe it all to John Hill !!!

redeagle
01-18-2010, 09:33 AM
'90-'91 Miami was 5-29-3 in Gwozdecky's second year (also current coaches' Rico Blasi's freshmen year and Chris Bergeron's sophomore year). Two years later ('92-'93) Gwoz and Miami won 27 games and the CCHA regular season title. Sometimes the darkest hour is just before dawn.

Zudnic
01-18-2010, 10:35 AM
Not only that, but TWO of their nine goals that season were scored by the part time third string goaltender in 02-03.

Their 2001-2002 season was particularly horrid, 0-19-0 (2 GF, 226 GA).

A Shot and a Goal
01-18-2010, 10:36 AM
Brown 1960-1961; Brown 1988-1989. (http://www.uscho.com/stats/teamYxY.php/brown-bears/mens-college-hockey/team,bn/gender,m.html)

streaker
01-18-2010, 11:46 AM
Michigan's worst seasons-

Pre-Red Berenson:

'72-73 6-27-1 (10th in WCHA)
'78-79 8-27-1 (10th in WCHA)

Berenson's first three seasons:

'84-85 13-26-1 (CCHA-7th)
'85-86 12-26-0 (CCHA-8th)
'86-87 14-25-1 (CCHA-7th)

Michigan has won no less than 22 games in each season since that time, except in 2005-06 when they went 21-15-5 (T3rd in CCHA) and still made the NCAA tourney.

Berenson's teams have won 30+ games 11 times, including a stretch of eight straight seasons from '90-91 to their last NC in 1997-98.

They may not reach the 21 win mark this season, though, and may place out of the top four in the conference for the first time since '87-88 when they finished 5th at 22-19-0.

GoDanGo
01-18-2010, 03:57 PM
Not in keeping with the exact theme of this thread, but if you want to see some of the all time bad seasons, check out some of the women's DIII teams. Without going through them all to see the worst, I know there are some epically bad teams out there. Some time in the recent past one of them was noted in a thread I followed and it was hard to believe it was an NCAA sanctioned team or sport it was so bad. I wish I could remember the team but IIRC it was around the 2002/2003 season.

No need to even go down to DIII. Not to pick on the crosstown rival, but Union College's women's hockey team has had a few rough years - the last time they had more than five wins in a season was in 2002-3. (Incidentally, they beat MIT 15-0 twice that fall.) The worst came last season (http://www.uscho.com/schedules/team.php/union-dutchwomen/-college-hockey/team,uc/season,20082009/gender,w.html), with a 2-29-3 record. Both wins came against Sacred Heart, and one of them required overtime. No individual games were as bad as some of those MIT scores, but they've had an awfully rocky transition into D-I and the ECAC.

They have had five already this season, so hopefully things are looking up a bit.

25 N Countin'
01-18-2010, 04:01 PM
Worst season I've ever seen myself was Merrimack's 06-07 season, which CBG mentioned earlier.

Not only do you have the incredible team record of futility of 3-27-4, you look at the stats and it's even worse. Pat Kimball led MC in scoring with a robust 5g, 6a, 11pt total, and coming in a close second was Matt Byrnes with 3g, 7a, 10pts.

Having only two players with double digit points is atrocious, as bad as I've ever seen. Their wins came against UMass (twice...which is also pretty shameful) and Providence. The ties were against Brown, Robert Morris and Vermont (twice). They scored 37 goals and 63 assists as a team that entire year.

If that was a team in its first D1 year, I could see that, but that was so bad it was unbelievable.

CLS
01-18-2010, 04:40 PM
The guy I coach with this year was the last coach for MIT. He had the program turned around in one year. In his only season he tied the record for career wins, and had three recruits accepted (not an easy thing at a school like MIT). It's really too bad they killed the program when they did.

But yes, the MIT women are the worst college hockey program ever.
Actually, there is an attempt to revive at least the men's program. There's a hockey reunion next weekend, featuring a game between MIT alums and Bruins alums. I'm guessing they're still better hockey players, but we had better SATs.;)

Playing hockey at MIT was sort of the reverse of what most kids experience. Most kids are the hot shot on their high school team, but end up on the end of the bench in college. I was on the third line on a high school team that played only two lines, but I was first line at MIT.

blockski
01-18-2010, 04:59 PM
Michigan's worst seasons-

Pre-Red Berenson:

'72-73 6-27-1 (10th in WCHA)
'78-79 8-27-1 (10th in WCHA)

Berenson's first three seasons:

'84-85 13-26-1 (CCHA-7th)
'85-86 12-26-0 (CCHA-8th)
'86-87 14-25-1 (CCHA-7th)

Michigan has won no less than 22 games in each season since that time, except in 2005-06 when they went 21-15-5 (T3rd in CCHA) and still made the NCAA tourney.

Berenson's teams have won 30+ games 11 times, including a stretch of eight straight seasons from '90-91 to their last NC in 1997-98.

They may not reach the 21 win mark this season, though, and may place out of the top four in the conference for the first time since '87-88 when they finished 5th at 22-19-0.

In that same vein, Wisconsin's worst seasons:

1975-76; 12-24-2 (pct .342) - tied for 7th with 3 other teams in the cellar of the WCHA. That team was coached by Bill Rothwell as Bob Johnson took a leave of absence to coach the '76 US Olympic team. The next year, UW went 37-7-1, winning the MacNaughton, Broadmoor, and NCAA trophies.

2002-03; 13-23-4 (pct .375) - finished 8th in the WCHA, besting Michigan Tech by one point and benefiting from UAA's winless WCHA season. That was Mike Eaves' first season in Madison.

BUT09
01-18-2010, 05:07 PM
If Hockeydb.com is correct:

Going back to 49-50 (which is all Hockeydb.com does), it looks like BU's worst season was 54-55, when they went 4-19-0. They haven't been in the single digits since Jack Kelley's first season (62-63) when they went 8-16-0. Parker's worst was 79-80, with an 11-17-0 record.

bronconick
01-18-2010, 05:33 PM
2007-08 for Western Michigan

8-27-3 (4-22-2 CCHA) 1-16-1 on the road that year. Culhane got a contract extension about 5 games into that season because it was his last season under contract and didn't fire his *** the year before like she should have.

Fewest wins was 1998-99 at 6-20-8, where the 3-4-2 finish got Culhane (and our AD's lack of interest and intellect about hockey) his job.

Tater
01-18-2010, 09:48 PM
Bu 09-10

I wonder what the worst record ever is the season after winning a national championship?

burgie12
01-18-2010, 11:47 PM
I wonder what the worst record ever is the season after winning a national championship?
If we assume that the 93-94 Black Bears went 17-15-4 (their record before they lost credit for their wins), the 72-73 BU Terriers went 11-17-1. That was also the biggest difference in Win% between the championship season and the next year (.458).

For those that care: 5 worst NC$$-hangover seasons (by both criteria)

By Winning Percentage:
Rank NC Year Team W L T Win%
1 1972 Boston University 11 17 1 0.397
2 1976 Minnesota 17 22 3 0.440
3 1954 Rensselaer 9 11 2 0.455
4 1989 Harvard 13 14 1 0.482
T-5 1984 Bowling Green 21 21 0 0.500
T-5 2001 Boston College 18 18 2 0.500

By Difference
Rank NC Year Team Win% 1 Win% 2 Diff
1972 Boston University 0.855 0.397 0.458
1989 Harvard 0.912 0.482 0.430
1993 Maine 0.956 0.528 0.428
1961 Denver 0.953 0.600 0.353
1954 Rensselaer 0.783 0.455 0.328

Ralph Baer
01-19-2010, 12:13 AM
If we assume that the 93-94 Black Bears went 17-15-4 (their record before they lost credit for their wins), the 72-73 BU Terriers went 11-17-1. That was also the biggest difference in Win% between the championship season and the next year (.458).

For those that care: 5 worst NC$$-hangover seasons (by both criteria)

By Winning Percentage:
Rank NC Year Team W L T Win%
1 1972 Boston University 11 17 1 0.397
2 1976 Minnesota 17 22 3 0.440
3 1954 Rensselaer 9 11 2 0.455
4 1989 Harvard 13 14 1 0.482
T-5 1984 Bowling Green 21 21 0 0.500
T-5 2001 Boston College 18 18 2 0.500

By Difference
Rank NC Year Team Win% 1 Win% 2 Diff
1972 Boston University 0.855 0.397 0.458
1989 Harvard 0.912 0.482 0.430
1993 Maine 0.956 0.528 0.428
1961 Denver 0.953 0.600 0.353
1954 Rensselaer 0.783 0.455 0.328


If you use Maine's 93-94 record before they lost credit for their wins, shouldn't you do the same for BU in 72-73?

burgie12
01-19-2010, 12:18 AM
If you use Maine's 93-94 record before they lost credit for their wins, shouldn't you do the same for BU in 72-73?

Probably. I wasn't aware that they were penalized for NCAA violations.

ETA: Are there any other teams that were penalized in their post-NC season?

Tater
01-19-2010, 01:16 PM
If you use Maine's 93-94 record before they lost credit for their wins, shouldn't you do the same for BU in 72-73?

So taking that into effect, the 1976 Minnesota team at 17-22-3 0.440 is the worst post-championship team?

BU is currently at .425! :eek: :(

BUT09
01-19-2010, 01:22 PM
Probably. I wasn't aware that they were penalized for NCAA violations.

ETA: Are there any other teams that were penalized in their post-NC season?

That season BU went from 11-4 to 0-15 due to an ineligible player. So their "real" season that year was 22-6-1. Not exactly a hangover.