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xwildfan
01-01-2010, 01:49 PM
During the USA v Canada junior game, a comparison of US and Canada was displayed...population, #players, etc. The most amazing figure was number of outdoor rinks: US 250 and Canada 11,000.

startthebus
01-01-2010, 01:55 PM
Very interesting fact..though I would be shocked if there is only 250 outdoor rinks in the US..actually maybe that isn't that surprising..

huskyfan
01-01-2010, 02:09 PM
I believe one of those is in Key West, FL

Dirty
01-01-2010, 02:14 PM
That is a load of crap. USA Hockey can't count or something. I'd guess Minnesota, without counting the Minneapolis/St. Paul Metro Area has 250 outdoor rinks.

brianvf
01-01-2010, 02:31 PM
That is a load of crap. USA Hockey can't count or something. I'd guess Minnesota, without counting the Minneapolis/St. Paul Metro Area has 250 outdoor rinks.

Agreed.
While the US has nowhere near 11k outdoor rinks, they certainly have a lot more than 250. We were talking in the USA/Can game thread last night, and there are at least 25-35 outdoor rinks in Grand Forks/East Grand Forks alone.

jnacc
01-01-2010, 02:36 PM
Agreed.
While the US has nowhere near 11k outdoor rinks, they certainly have a lot more than 250. We were talking in the USA/Can game thread last night, and there are at least 25-35 outdoor rinks in Grand Forks/East Grand Forks alone.

Who knows, maybe they were talking about municipal funded and controlled out-door rinks.

joecct
01-01-2010, 02:58 PM
Agreed.
While the US has nowhere near 11k outdoor rinks, they certainly have a lot more than 250. We were talking in the USA/Can game thread last night, and there are at least 25-35 outdoor rinks in Grand Forks/East Grand Forks alone.I wonder if they got the figures from USA Hockey and those outdoor rinks are STAR partners. They would not count a rec shinny sheet.

brianvf
01-01-2010, 03:05 PM
I wonder if they got the figures from USA Hockey and those outdoor rinks are STAR partners. They would not count a rec shinny sheet.

Who knows.

If they counted rec sheets as well, then there's probably closer to 80 outdoor rinks in GF/EGF. :)
(25-35 outdoor parks, all with warming houses, and usually 2-3 sheets at each park, with one dedicated "hockey" rink with boards/nets/lights).

startthebus
01-01-2010, 05:09 PM
I would say that pretty much every town in Minnesota has at least 1 outdoor rink...a lot of them have 2-3, and the bigger towns have 5+ often times.

dxmnkd316
01-01-2010, 05:16 PM
I am now angry I clicked on this thread.

It also helps when 99.9% of your country gets below freezing for the winter...

scsutommyboy
01-01-2010, 05:18 PM
That is a load of crap. USA Hockey can't count or something. I'd guess Minnesota, without counting the Minneapolis/St. Paul Metro Area has 250 outdoor rinks.

You are correct. We have 12 in the area I live in alone. If I had to guess there is way more than 250 outdoor rinks in the twin cities metro.

Federal League
01-01-2010, 06:35 PM
For what it's worth, there aren't many outdoor rinks at all in Massachusetts that I know of. There's obviously a lot of pond hockey and backyard rinks, but I've only heard of maybe 1 or 2 outdoor rinks that actually have any sort of organized hockey on them, which I assume is what this stat is referring to. From reading this thread and watching Mighty Ducks, I assume it's a different case in Minnesota, but being from Massachusetts, this stat didn't surprise me at all.

IrishHockeyFan
01-01-2010, 07:30 PM
For what it's worth, there aren't many outdoor rinks at all in Massachusetts that I know of. There's obviously a lot of pond hockey and backyard rinks, but I've only heard of maybe 1 or 2 outdoor rinks that actually have any sort of organized hockey on them, which I assume is what this stat is referring to. From reading this thread and watching Mighty Ducks, I assume it's a different case in Minnesota, but being from Massachusetts, this stat didn't surprise me at all.


1 or 2 in all of Massachusetts? There are 2 in St Joe county alone in Indiana, and that isn't the extent of the outdoor rinks in this state, and we aren't exactly a hotbed of ice hockey or ice skating. And I too would be shocked if Minnesota alone doesn't go way beyond that 250.

Priceless
01-01-2010, 07:46 PM
There are also no more outdoor arenas in Maine, now that Hebron has built their rink. I don't think there are any fully outdoor arenas in New Hampshire either. I remember playing "outside" at a prep school on Lake Winnipesaukee (Brewster?) but they had more of a wind tunnel since they had 2 walls and a roof. I don't know of any in MA or VT either...

The Rube
01-01-2010, 07:54 PM
Who knows.

If they counted rec sheets as well, then there's probably closer to 80 outdoor rinks in GF/EGF. :)
(25-35 outdoor parks, all with warming houses, and usually 2-3 sheets at each park, with one dedicated "hockey" rink with boards/nets/lights).

In the Crystal/New Hope area, there are at least a dozen (lights/boards/warming houses). Currently, I don't know how many warming houses are staffed (they've been waning over the last few years due to budget cuts for the cities), but AFAIK the lights etc still come on. And those two suburbs of Minneapolis are not even close to the biggest suburbs.

Wondering
01-01-2010, 08:12 PM
There are at least four public outdoor hockey rinks in Fairbanks, Alaska -- and Fairbanks isn't a big place. And that's using the most conservative definition: large, permanent single-use structures.

More broadly, many of the schools have combination basketball courts/hockey rinks. When the weather turns cold (which is very early here!) firefighters go to the schools and flood the courts. These rinks aren't huge, but they're lighted, boarded and heavily used.

NUMcNeely
01-01-2010, 08:22 PM
For what it's worth, there aren't many outdoor rinks at all in Massachusetts that I know of. There's obviously a lot of pond hockey and backyard rinks, but I've only heard of maybe 1 or 2 outdoor rinks that actually have any sort of organized hockey on them, which I assume is what this stat is referring to. From reading this thread and watching Mighty Ducks, I assume it's a different case in Minnesota, but being from Massachusetts, this stat didn't surprise me at all.

Ya, Mass and really new england in general just sticks to pond hockey, with all of the small lakes around, it's just more convenient. we have a small pond in our town out in north central mass that always has a hockey net out once the ice gets hard enough and you can usually find kids playing on the weekends. I guess it's just laziness, outdoor rinks are costly, and when you can throw a net on the pond, it is just more practical money wise and time wise.

dxmnkd316
01-01-2010, 08:52 PM
am I the only one who thinks that it doesn't matter one bit about the number of outdoor rinks when perfectly decent indoor rinks are available?

The Rube
01-01-2010, 08:58 PM
am I the only one who thinks that it doesn't matter one bit about the number of outdoor rinks when perfectly decent indoor rinks are available?

You ever play on an outdoor rink? It's awesome. While I admittedly didn't play real hockey (played boot hockey), the outdoor rink was where it was at. Frigid cold, the air burning your lungs as you played, starry skies, etc.

And even the bad things: shovelling the snow off the ice between "periods" during snowfall, lugging out the nets for the game(s), the smelly warming house after the game, etc.

I miss it. :(

brianvf
01-01-2010, 09:38 PM
am I the only one who thinks that it doesn't matter one bit about the number of outdoor rinks when perfectly decent indoor rinks are available?

Indoor ice can be expensive, and most practices held on indoor rinks have to be structured to get things done in the time allotted.. Outdoor ice allows kids to have way more time with the puck to work on skills and just have fun for hours on end...to fall in love with the game of hockey.

Watch this movie, Pond Hockey:

http://www.hulu.com/watch/118204/pond-hockey


You ever play on an outdoor rink? It's awesome. While I admittedly didn't play real hockey (played boot hockey), the outdoor rink was where it was at. Frigid cold, the air burning your lungs as you played, starry skies, etc.

I miss it. :(

Just got back from playing pond hockey today for four hours. :)