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KC8NIY
12-31-2009, 10:40 AM
With the first half of the 2009-2010 season offering little of the grace we've all come to expect, what does the second half hold in store? Can this team rebound and hold on to the tournament streak? Or do they continue to falter and get taken out by those who've proven to be better thus far?

Hammer
12-31-2009, 10:54 AM
Check your rep.

jnacc
12-31-2009, 03:40 PM
With the first half of the 2009-2010 season offering little of the grace we've all come to expect, what does the second half hold in store? Can this team rebound and hold on to the tournament streak? Or do they continue to falter and get taken out by those who've proven to be better thus far?

Michigan is a talented team with the horses to win it all. I remember back in 94, Lake State was barely a .500 team coming into the Christmas break. Everyone wrote them off, only to see them have a complete turn around in the 2nd half and win a national title.

It's gut check time for the players on Michigan and there is still a ton of hockey left to be played.

M-HockeyNet
01-06-2010, 01:15 PM
Well, on a positive note, Michigan has secured their first 2012 verbal commitment in Syracuse Jr. Nationals forward Cristoval "Boo" Nieves. He's 15 years old (turns 16 later this month) and listed at 6'2 and somewhere between 175-185 lbs. One OHL scouting website has him listed as the #8 prospect for the 2010 OHL draft and Bob Miller at The Wolverine thinks he's a big catch. He will probably be joining the U.S. NTDP in the near future.

Hammer
01-06-2010, 01:36 PM
He's going on 16, and he's already 6'2" and ~180? He's gonna be a big one. I'd almost bet a beer that he doesn't set foot in Yost in a Michigan uniform.

M-HockeyNet
01-06-2010, 05:47 PM
We'll see. Right now that's his plan, per a Hockey News article (http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/29797-.html) last month.


At the next level, Nieves hopes to be making sweet music in Ann Arbor, Mich., with Team USA’s national team development program. In the long run, Nieves decided with his family the NCAA route would suit him best.

“There’s really no question that I’m going to college,” he noted.

alfablue
01-06-2010, 08:14 PM
He's going on 16, and he's already 6'2" and ~180? He's gonna be a big one. I'd almost bet a beer that he doesn't set foot in Yost in a Michigan uniform.

He'll be here.

Just a year, but here.

As for this team, I'm too afraid to make any predictions. But comparing to the '94 Lake State team? Nice, for sure, but we've got serious goalie problems. Even IF we figure out how to score more than twice with 50 shots, I'm not so sure we will still be ok when "they" score 2 on 13 shots.

Gomer
01-07-2010, 12:13 AM
Is this Red's last half?

kdilks
01-07-2010, 01:43 AM
Is this Red's last half?

Probably not with the outdoor game on the slate for next fall.

streaker
01-07-2010, 12:23 PM
He's going on 16, and he's already 6'2" and ~180? He's gonna be a big one. I'd almost bet a beer that he doesn't set foot in Yost in a Michigan uniform.

I'm with you, seeing our track record with kids that claim to be "all in". I like my odds better with our other wager. :)

umichjim
01-09-2010, 01:39 PM
Heard yesterday that Wohlberg is hurt. Anyone know the details?

kdilks
01-09-2010, 03:11 PM
Heard yesterday that Wohlberg is hurt. Anyone know the details?

Somebody on Yost Post said sick, as opposed to injured (but no details beyond that).

Edit: He's back in the line charts for tonight.

KC8NIY
01-09-2010, 09:51 PM
Nice win tonight, finally getting out of a weekend without relinquishing any points to the opposition. I could go on about momentum, and building on this, but I'm sure we've all been ready to just let the results do the talking since November.

The 5-on-3 PK was awesome (not that I liked the too-many-men that put us there). I haven't heard the place that loud in a while now. It was refreshing.

Hagelin? Well... Bork! Bork! Bork! I swear, he never, EVER, has an off night. The kid is just amazing.

Also, I didn't see Sparks last night, but he sure seems to haven gotten some confidence after getting regular ice time and scoring the first at JLA. I saw some flashes of this during the exhibition games over the first weekend, but it went by the wayside after that. I hope he can continue to progress like he has recently.

Glendening continues to show why he was given an "A". Another great game where he hustled all night and it almost paid off in the box score a couple times.

It's nice to talk about positives, isn't it?

UMICHhockeyRULZ
01-10-2010, 02:30 AM
A little off-topic but:

The next time someone calls you a "Wal-Mart Wolverine" rub this in their face, http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4809698

alfablue
01-10-2010, 10:03 AM
KC- you are sure right that it's nice to talk about positives.

I'd like to see what the refs were looking at on the 5-3 goal review- it must have been VERY close in terms of a goal. Glendening was very amazing on that shift- while I would have loved him to get a shot on goal before the puck went to the corner, his hard work keeping the puck there with 3 defenders was pretty amazing. I still can't figure out how he came out of that pile with the puck- based on his shot, I think he was surprised, too. I think it was Sparks that helped him almost score that. And IF they had scored- I don't remember seeing a 5-3 shorty for Michigan.

After that, the rest of that kill was awesome. Western just couldn't even set up, and then drew a penalty to make it a 4-3. You could tell that the kill put a lot of life into the skates.

I still wish I wasn't so nervous about the goaltending. All the while it was 3-1, I kept thinking that one Hogan mind game, and Western was back in the game. Very sad that I still think that way, IMHO. That 4th goal was huge, as you could tell by the way the game ended. Western almost gave up, and Michigan just pinned them in their own zone.

Good stuff. Will be interesting to see how that progresses next week against a better Alaska team.

bluevox
01-10-2010, 12:46 PM
I'd like to see what the refs were looking at on the 5-3 goal review- it must have been VERY close in terms of a goal.

The puck looked to be under the glove of the WMU goalie, but they could not be sure because of the black puck on black jersey/pads/glove/uniform of the goaltender.

wolverineTrumpet
01-11-2010, 08:21 AM
It's nice to talk about positives, isn't it?

Positives are great. Unfortunately, I keep reminding myself that this was Western. Hopefully the team builds on it and that confidence helps with the next games. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I think that's the 2nd sweep all season, the first one being at Lake State in October. I sure could go for several more sweeps....but I'll take wins and be happy at this point. :D

So, I thought I was noticing a weird trend...that it seemed when Pateryn played, we won. Curiously, I looked it up...8-4 in the 12 games Pateryn has played (4-6 in games without Pateryn). Not quite as strong of a trend as I thought I had been noticing. I was going to say it was some weird thing like how we couldn't seem to get a win with Sauer in net last year. Pay no attention to me and my Monday morning ramblings.

streaker
01-11-2010, 09:05 AM
Positives are great. Unfortunately, I keep reminding myself that this was Western. Hopefully the team builds on it and that confidence helps with the next games. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I think that's the 2nd sweep all season, the first one being at Lake State in October. I sure could go for several more sweeps....but I'll take wins and be happy at this point. :D

So, I thought I was noticing a weird trend...that it seemed when Pateryn played, we won. Curiously, I looked it up...8-4 in the 12 games Pateryn has played (4-6 in games without Pateryn). Not quite as strong of a trend as I thought I had been noticing. I was going to say it was some weird thing like how we couldn't seem to get a win with Sauer in net last year. Pay no attention to me and my Monday morning ramblings.

Good points, but this team will be lamenting points they left on the table against other teams that they should have beaten- BG for one, maybe OSU and Notre Dame, especially with all of their injuries at the time. Then again, I am still in the mindset that this is a Michigan team of the past, not the present. Maybe they are just a .500 team, with 6th-10th place possibilities.

You are correct- the only other sweep looks really good right now- LSSU up in the Soo- considering how well they are playing now. The other would be the CHS, probably their best hockey weekend of the season- at least for Hogan.

Oh- and as far as Pateryn- that is an interesting stat. I'd like to see the record with Llewellyn in the lineup or out of the lineup, too. He didn't play on Saturday, not sure about Friday. All's I know is he posted a -4 against RPI and has led us in the "stupid penalty" category this season. (Then again, there is a long line behind him.)

I also think that Chris Summers has had a very non-descript season. Had a good GLI, but has been a turnover machine in games I have attended at Yost.

As far as the rest of the season... one game at a time. They can jump into a 4th place bye spot this weekend with a sweep or fall as low as 10th depending on what other teams do.

alnike
01-11-2010, 10:20 AM
Curiously, I looked it up...8-4 in the 12 games Pateryn has played (4-6 in games without Pateryn).


I was glad to see this move inserting Pateryn over Llewellyn. I watched the GLI game highlights on mgoblue.com and in both games (RPI and MTU), Llewellyn made big mistakes late in the games.

In the Rensselear loss, the RPI 4th and game winning goal was just brutal from a defensive aspect.
First, Sparks tries to stickhandle through three opponents at center ice and turns it over.
Second, Winnett attempts to check the RPI player who stole the puck and whiffs on the check
Third, Llewellyn does not attempt to check the puck carrying goal scorer into the boards as he skates outside, simply turns around and skates towards the M goal (obviously assuming that the RPI player won't score from such a severe angle, but
Fourth, when your tiny goalie goes down on a shot and leaves the top half of the net exposed, game over.

In the Michigan Tech game, with Michigan winning 4-2 in the middle of the third, Llewellyn pinched at center ice and allowed MTU to score on a 2-1 break. Not good decisions for a junior.

As far as Chris Summers, he's on target to equal his prior seasons, but isn't likely to as Red says, "Have his best seasons as a senior." Not sure whether Kampfer or Lebler will either in terms of the other seniors. Summers seemed to score most of his goals when playing as a forward with Andrew Cogliano his freshman year in 2006-07. I expected that Summers skating would create more opportunities, and it's good to see the D get more involved since they need to supplement the scoring on this team.

It is interesting to note that five CCHA teams are among the top 9 in GAA on the season so far (1. Miami, 3. Ferris, 5. MSU, 7. N Dame, 9. Michigan). I think this says more about the lack of premier offensive players in the CCHA than goaltending or defense. Even the players who are high draft picks now don't have that wow factor that you would see five years ago. Are there any players that you would pay to see now? Not me, they left early or are in the OHL.

Michigan's PK is also third in the nation.

Discipline and special teams will be crucial over the next six games vs. Alaska, Ferris State and MSU. I anticipate low scoring games where the Power Play and goaltending (no easy goals) will determine the outcomes.

wolverineTrumpet
01-11-2010, 10:24 AM
Good points, but this team will be lamenting points they left on the table against other teams that they should have beaten- BG for one, maybe OSU and Notre Dame, especially with all of their injuries at the time. Then again, I am still in the mindset that this is a Michigan team of the past, not the present. Maybe they are just a .500 team, with 6th-10th place possibilities.

You are correct- the only other sweep looks really good right now- LSSU up in the Soo- considering how well they are playing now. The other would be the CHS, probably their best hockey weekend of the season- at least for Hogan.

Oh- and as far as Pateryn- that is an interesting stat. I'd like to see the record with Llewellyn in the lineup or out of the lineup, too. He didn't play on Saturday, not sure about Friday. All's I know is he posted a -4 against RPI and has led us in the "stupid penalty" category this season. (Then again, there is a long line behind him.)

I also think that Chris Summers has had a very non-descript season. Had a good GLI, but has been a turnover machine in games I have attended at Yost.

As far as the rest of the season... one game at a time. They can jump into a 4th place bye spot this weekend with a sweep or fall as low as 10th depending on what other teams do.

Turns out I'll do anything to avoid work today. Looks like we're 9-9 with Tristan and 3-1 without. He does lead the team for "stupid penalties"....especially noticeable when we're already 1 man down.

Agreed on Summers. Burlon is my favorite defensemen this season. He's not a big attention getter, he just gets his job done, and that's my favorite kind of defensemen.

I'm looking forward to the Alaska series and seeing where both teams are now. Fairbanks looked great in the Kendall Classic to start the season...Michigan played that first game pretty flat...but was the Michigan I had expected this season the following day against Anchorage.