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Puck Swami
01-02-2010, 01:10 AM
I know on paper BC is a good team but I gotta say they looked like crap today. They have talent but showed no heart at all. I thought SLU was a really week team. BC should of been able to put them away easily. SLU's PP (0-6) was the worst I think I've ever seen--I don't think they had more then 2-3 shots on the 6 tries.

BC has a good record but hasn't played anyone in the current top ten and only three teams in the top twenty. If BC plays like they did this afternoon DU will spank them nearly as bad as they spanked the Mavericks.

I am pretty sure BC just got caught a little sluggish behind a backup goalie. They will play their ace tomorrow and will be a totally different team - count on it. DU doesn't play well on Saturdays, and will be in for the fight of their lives tomorrow.

Puck Swami
01-02-2010, 01:14 AM
Expect lots of UNO Mav fans tonight - Look forward to playing the best and we will do that tonight!


GO MAVS!

I would guess 50-100 UNO Red Army fans in the house tonight. They had a couple of nice cheers, but they got a little quiet when DU took the Maverick team to the woodshed. They are going to have a serious rivalry with DU as part of the WCHA, and being a only a day's drive away.

MagnessMan
01-02-2010, 01:18 AM
I am pretty sure BC just got caught a little sluggish behind a backup goalie. They will play their ace tomorrow and will be a totally different team - count on it. DU doesn't play well on Saturdays, and will be in for the fight of their lives tomorrow.

Yep, I know all about Saturday night. I can see after the Eagles get reamed by York they will be a little more awake. I just didn't see the kind of talent that makes you say--Wow! These guys are good. UND this year or BU last year. Those guys came in here with three guys out at the WJ's and smoked us. I left that game thinking HS those guys are the real deal. BC aint the real deal--at least not the team we saw today. If I'm wrong I'll gladly admit it tomorrow night (wouldn't be the first time by a long shot).

Scarlet
01-02-2010, 10:02 AM
Question - given the new format of this tournament, how is the winner determined? If BC beats Denver and UNO beats SLU, all 4 teams will be 1-1. Is it on goal differential?

MagnessMan
01-02-2010, 10:26 AM
Question - given the new format of this tournament, how is the winner determined? If BC beats Denver and UNO beats SLU, all 4 teams will be 1-1. Is it on goal differential?

I believe it's record>total goals scored>differential.

du78
01-02-2010, 11:45 AM
Thanks to Mike Chambers for posting the tourney criteria in his Denver Post blog.

(From DU media relations): Here is the criteria used for determining the Wells Fargo Denver Cup champion in the showcase format:

1. The Denver Cup uses a showcase format where games are pre-determined prior to the start of the tournament. Awards will be presented immediately following the 7:07 pm game on Saturday 1/2. Each team will be recognized for their participation and an all tournament team and MVP will be awarded. The following formula will be used to determine the Denver Cup champion.

1. Win – loss – tie record (not taking shootouts into account)

If tied, the following tie-breakers, in order will be used:

o Win – loss record including result from shootout

o Head to head results

o Goal differential (GS-GA=GD)

o Fewest goals allowed

o Shootout differential (GS-GA=GD)

o If still tied – co-champions will be declared

vizoroo
01-02-2010, 12:04 PM
Desired outcome:
SLU loses
DU wins

No tiebreakers needed :D

du78
01-02-2010, 12:05 PM
U.S.A./Finland WJC game is the same time as the DU/BC game.

jdevoejr
01-02-2010, 12:34 PM
I know on paper BC is a good team but I gotta say they looked like crap today. They have talent but showed no heart at all. I thought SLU was a really week team. BC should of been able to put them away easily. SLU's PP (0-6) was the worst I think I've ever seen--I don't think they had more then 2-3 shots on the 6 tries.

BC has a good record but hasn't played anyone in the current top ten and only three teams in the top twenty. If BC plays like they did this afternoon DU will spank them nearly as bad as they spanked the Mavericks.

While it pains me to read "no heart" in reference to this BC team I can't argue with you based on last nights performance. If that's what you saw then so be it. What I've seen so far this season is a team without a superstar that plays relentless, whistle to whistle hockey, is able to score in bunches and rarely lacks "heart". Their defense is young and still learning so occasionally prone to breakdown but the skill level often makes up for it. Milner has been a pleasant surprise and has played well. Most BC fans expected a win last night and I fear perhaps the players did too. Hopefully they will get their s*#t together tonight and play the type of game that those of us who follow them are quite sure they are capable of. Without question, I've been looking forward to this game for a while now and still am. I expect two strong, competetive teams out there tonight and will be surprised if that isn't what we see. Trust me, this BC team can play.

hockeyplayer1015
01-02-2010, 01:01 PM
I know on paper BC is a good team but I gotta say they looked like crap today. They have talent but showed no heart at all. I thought SLU was a really week team. BC should of been able to put them away easily. SLU's PP (0-6) was the worst I think I've ever seen--I don't think they had more then 2-3 shots on the 6 tries.

Sounds about right about our PP. It has shown flashes of brilliance the past few <YEARS>, but has not been consistent at all during that period. I do, however, like seeing 6-7 on the PK, as that has been a major weak point as well so far this season, and uncharacteristically so. Hopefully the PP can click starting tonight, otherwise it could make for a long ECAC spring slate.

du78
01-02-2010, 01:19 PM
Gwoz's post-game comments about last night's game against UNO. Interview is about 9 minutes long. He explains why DU went to the showcase format. He has also some interesting comments about Patrick Wiercioch's and Joe Colborne's snubs by Hockey Canada and their lack of invitation/selections to the Team Canada WJC team. Also happy to see Anthony Maiani contribute in a big way last night after having a tough 1st half of the season. Link is below and it is free.

http://www.denverpioneers.com/newMediaPlayer/consolewmp.htm?id=666660&SPID=10862&SPSID=90195&CLIP_ID=656811&CLIP_FILE_ID=666660&type=vod&DB_MENU_ID=&DB_OEM_ID=18600&oemid=18600

MavRick
01-02-2010, 03:00 PM
Congrats to DU on its beatdown of UNO last night. I think our team is capable of playing better, but that's not to take away from your big, fast, strong and talented guys. We'll be better next year.

vizoroo
01-02-2010, 06:21 PM
Congrats to DU on its beatdown of UNO last night. I think our team is capable of playing better, but that's not to take away from your big, fast, strong and talented guys. We'll be better next year.

I'll be cheering for you against SLU!

hockeyplayer1015
01-02-2010, 06:37 PM
I'll be cheering for you against SLU!

I'll be cheering for BC against DU!:rolleyes:

du78
01-03-2010, 12:44 AM
DU won the 2010 Wells Fargo Denver Cup with a come from behind 4-3 win over BC in a very exciting game between two of the nation's top teams. BC owned DU in the 1st period and led 1-0 after the 1st on a nice rebound shot. Gwoz let the players know he was not happy after the first and made some adjustments. DU played much better but BC got a fluke goal when an innocent shot from the point deflected off of a DU d-man in front of Chevy. BC led 2-0 after 2. DU began its comeback early in the 3rd with a long Rhett Rakhshani wrister that somehow eluded John Muse to cut the lead to 2-1. While DU was on a PP putting all sorts of pressure on Muse, John Gibbons came away with the puck and scored a beautiful shorty on Chevy to give BC a 3-1 lead. Later in the period DU won an offensive zone faceoff and got the puck back to the point to John Lee. He shot it at the net and Drew Shore tipped it in to make it BC 3 DU 2. Lee was originally credited with the goal which was later changed to Shore. Rhett Rakhshani poked one through a crowd to tie the game at 3 later in the 3rd period. Finally, Joe Colborne got the game winner on a rebound of a Rhett Rakhshani shot. Muse was pulled by Jerry York but DU held on for the win.

MagnessMan
01-03-2010, 12:52 AM
While it pains me to read "no heart" in reference to this BC team I can't argue with you based on last nights performance. If that's what you saw then so be it. What I've seen so far this season is a team without a superstar that plays relentless, whistle to whistle hockey, is able to score in bunches and rarely lacks "heart". Their defense is young and still learning so occasionally prone to breakdown but the skill level often makes up for it. Milner has been a pleasant surprise and has played well. Most BC fans expected a win last night and I fear perhaps the players did too. Hopefully they will get their s*#t together tonight and play the type of game that those of us who follow them are quite sure they are capable of. Without question, I've been looking forward to this game for a while now and still am. I expect two strong, competetive teams out there tonight and will be surprised if that isn't what we see. Trust me, this BC team can play.

Great hockey game tonight. BC played with heart and were tenacious in their pursuit of the puck. DU didn't take them seriously in the first and Gwoz ripped them a new one in the intermission. BC ran out of gas in the third and DU came in and took it away. I give BC credit for playing an excellent game. It was great to watch two excellent coaches battle it out tonight. Rhett took it to a whole new level this weekend. He showed leadership that was exemplary.

TonyTheTiger20
01-03-2010, 03:40 AM
I gotta say, I think the thin air affected BC in the third period.

Puck Swami
01-03-2010, 11:51 AM
Random Denver Cup thoughts:

Tourney format: I love the showcase format. Sure, its not as straightforward and pure as elimination format, but winning the Denver Cup is nowhere near as important as Denver getting to pick their opponents for PWR purposes, TV purposes and enabling to get good teams to come here with guaranteed games that probably otherwise wouldn't show up in Denver. I also think that if the tourney moves to new dates next year as is rumored (not in the x-mas to New Years timeframe) that's probably a good thing, too. I'd like to see DU get to play in someone else's holiday tourney.

St. Lawrence: These guys play with a lot of heart, and while they were probably disappointed not to get a shot at DU for the Cup, I think they have to be thrilled with thumping BC in the opener. Great to see Toronto-based Hockey Guru Bob McKenzie's kid, Mike McKenzie, play here. The Saint's have a plug away kind of team, and are much better than the record indicates.

UNO: For such a senior-laden team, I expected a better performance from the Mavs vs DU. The Mavs have some speedy guys, but turnovers/puck control and goaltending did not serve them well. They competed better against SLU, where their speed really helped, but need some bigger players. I am sure the bus or plane ride back to Omaha will be filled a few jabs at the poor UNO player who fell down in the shootout without getting a shot off. Good to see the Red Army make the trip, and am looking forward to having UNO in the WCHA next year.

BC: After a flat, sluggish loss to SLU in the opener behind the backup netminder, BC showed everyone in Denver why they are a top 5 team. BC simply dominated Denver in the first period, practically skating our Pioneers right out of the building. They are such a young team, but they move the puck very well and limited DU to four measly shots in the first. In the second, BC also played well, as did Denver, but both teams didn't get rewarded for it. By the third period, Denver played with desperation, and BC probably got a little tired, as often happens at altitude. The game could have gone either way. Muse is a very hard goalie to beat, and BC's outside speed is really unnerving. Also a suprisingly mobile defense, too.

Denver: Good result for the Pios. The comeback win over BC will go a long way towards defining the season, and sets up some nice momentum for the second half. Rakhshani put the team on his back with his on-ice heroics, but more than that, established a strong sense of leadership as captain. Great leaders say "step up and follow me" and that's what he did. Heroics aside,
DU played 4.5 good periods this weekend, and that was enough to land the hardware. DU needs to start better on Saturdays, plain and simple. No reason DU shouldn't have been jacked up from the drop of the puck - Prestigious top 5 opponent, full house, TV game, etc. Speaking of jacked up, it was great to see the Magness crowd get into the BC game in the third period without the students in the building. Good crowd chants, and a wonderful job by that guy who took his shirt off and whooped up the crowd. Not quite Sasquatch (the hairy BU fan who does the same thing in Boston), but a great first effort.

AFHockeyFan
01-03-2010, 01:00 PM
BTW, if I ever want to watch Arkansas vs. East Carolina in football over #2 vs. #3 in the country in college hockey, I'm going to kill myself very quickly. For the poster that wrote that, might I suggest dousing yourself in gasoline and lighting yourself on fire. Just a suggestion.

I thoroughly enjoyed Arkansas' overtime win over East Carolina in the Liberty Bowl. Evidently so did the 62,742 who showed up to watch. I noticed the UNO-SLU attendance didn't make it into the box score. I doubt it was as many as the 5,983 who made it to Magness for DU-BC game. Looks like a lot more people were interested in football.

I tried to watch the DU-BC game on FOX Sports Rocky Mountain, but found the Texas Tech comeback over Sparty much more intriguing. Glad I didn't waste my time or money on the hockey tournament.

hockeyplayer1015
01-03-2010, 01:33 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed Arkansas' overtime win over East Carolina in the Liberty Bowl. Evidently so did the 62,742 who showed up to watch. I noticed the UNO-SLU attendance didn't make it into the box score. I doubt it was as many as the 5,983 who made it to Magness for DU-BC game. Looks like a lot more people were interested in football.

I tried to watch the DU-BC game on FOX Sports Rocky Mountain, but found the Texas Tech comeback over Sparty much more intriguing. Glad I didn't waste my time or money on the hockey tournament.

Yes, I'm sure it was football that they were much more interested in. I don't know why anybody who simply cheers for Denver would really want to go see SLU/UNO in a game they probably wouldn't truly care about, but rather watch the very intriguing football games that were on TV yesterday. :rolleyes: