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HATSOFF
11-24-2009, 09:53 PM
I don't know. Watching him play, he's certainly one of the best PLAYERS in college hockey. That is the criteria. If the team crashes and burns in the 2nd half there is no chance he'll be on the Hobey short list but if the team remains in the top tier of the PWR, and if he doesn't get hurt, he'll be there.

MagnessMan
11-24-2009, 10:03 PM
Marcou could do no wrong tonight. UVM drops to 4-5. Sounded like UMass was the quicker more talented team tonight.

umassfan49
11-24-2009, 10:05 PM
Marcou could do no wrong tonight. UVM drops to 4-5. Sounded like UMass was the quicker more talented team tonight.

Vermont actually looked pretty solid, if not the better team when it was 5 on 5. That being said, the UMass powerplay tonight was extremely good, while Vermont's was horrendous. Dainton also played well in net, robbing I believe Roloff on a breakaway early in the third, which would have made it 4-3. Spillane seemed shaky tonight, but UMass generated must of their scoring on special teams, so you can't really fault him much. I think if UVM had stayed out of the box, got a few more chances, and maybe had Madore start, this game would have been turned around.

dwb
11-24-2009, 10:06 PM
the one thing you can,t do is take stupid penalities(lazy) against Umass or you'll find the puck in the back of the net. without a doubt--the best powerplay i've seen at the gut since perrin and st. louis.it seemed everything Umass did was at full speed and uvm seemed to slow down when entering the zone. hat's off to Umass.where is all the speed uvm is suppose to have.they continually got beat to all the pucks. Roloff demostrated skating at full speed can do on his nifty goal.with all the speed uvm has they should enter the zone with their hair on fire.oh well--shake it off and come out guns ablazing at northeastern.

observer85
11-24-2009, 10:07 PM
Hobey likes his winners to be goal scorers, not so much assists. Yes, its important to put up points, but in the eyes of the Hobey scoring goals, which Marcou I believe has 4 at this point is most important. He also doesn't play for a traditional hockey powerhouse program, and UMass would certainly need to make possibly the Frozen Four for him to win. Genoway is still my pick.

Genoway is out with a concussion so he will fall behind in generating points necessary to be a Hobey finalist (I am guessing he will definitely make the 1st go round though). Unfortunate as I never want to see a kid get hurt - especially how he did getting hit from behind by the St Cloud player.

Marcou had a great game tonight, sounds like he is having many great games. Wellman is the beneficiary and showed it tonight.

As far as Vermont playing...very disappointing to say the least. Watching the UMass PP move the puck - precision with a sense of purpose. Looks like those guys actually practice together and then execute in games.

Vermont PP and heck, in general, the whole game, it looks like maybe these guys need to sit in the locker room and introduce themselves to each other. Lost track of how many icing calls occurred with sloppy up the ice passes. Some of them came not even in the vicinity of the blade of the forward skating player. And this is 10 games into the season. Wow.

UMass showed me something tonight. They will be a force as long as they don't get all full of themselves and stop working....

alan
11-24-2009, 10:11 PM
Vermont actually looked pretty solid, if not the better team when it was 5 on 5. That being said, the UMass powerplay tonight was extremely good, while Vermont's was horrendous. Dainton also played well in net, robbing I believe Roloff on a breakaway early in the third, which would have made it 4-3. Spillane seemed shaky tonight, but UMass generated must of their scoring on special teams, so you can't really fault him much. I think if UVM had stayed out of the box, got a few more chances, and maybe had Madore start, this game would have been turned around.

Yep. If Vermont had only scored 5 more goals they'd have won.

justinD
11-24-2009, 10:23 PM
Vermont actually looked pretty solid, if not the better team when it was 5 on 5. That being said, the UMass powerplay tonight was extremely good, while Vermont's was horrendous. Dainton also played well in net, robbing I believe Roloff on a breakaway early in the third, which would have made it 4-3. Spillane seemed shaky tonight, but UMass generated must of their scoring on special teams, so you can't really fault him much. I think if UVM had stayed out of the box, got a few more chances, and maybe had Madore start, this game would have been turned around.

I'm not sure we were watching the same game.

I agree that UVM actually played a decent game, and they certianly aren't 4 goals worse than UMass, but this game was about more than power plays. UVM couldn't get the puck out of their own zone for large stretches of the game, as the UMass forecheck was as effective as I've ever seen it. The first 5-10 minutes were back and forth, pretty even, but after that the Minuteman speed and depth took over, as did their top end talent. They had the best 2-3 players on the ice tonight, and would have won this game regardless of the PP. I also thought Spillane actually played well, nothing he could do on several perfect setups.

Besides, special team is an integral part of the game, and the officiating was pretty good tonight (despite TB's presence). UMass was clearly the better team tonight IMO.

umassfan49
11-24-2009, 10:36 PM
Genoway is out with a concussion so he will fall behind in generating points necessary to be a Hobey finalist (I am guessing he will definitely make the 1st go round though). Unfortunate as I never want to see a kid get hurt - especially how he did getting hit from behind by the St Cloud player.

Genoway was hit from behind against the Huskies and seemed to suffer a lower back injury. He didn't make the trip to Denver, but I think he will be in the lineup for the Sioux's next games. He will be a crucial part in the Miami game if he does indeed play.

MagnessMan
11-24-2009, 11:23 PM
Genoway was hit from behind against the Huskies and seemed to suffer a lower back injury. He didn't make the trip to Denver, but I think he will be in the lineup for the Sioux's next games. He will be a crucial part in the Miami game if he does indeed play.

We didn't miss him this past weekend at all. :D

Cat lover
11-24-2009, 11:35 PM
Whats the word from the better half of the Umass teams?



I stand by what I said in post #1, just now I have proof.

By far the best offensive team I have seen all year. What was a very tight game was turned one sided in just a few minutes. First the 3 on 1 goal to tie the game on the no tripping call and then a tripping call in the same spot on the ice to set up the lead goal and Vermont never got back on track even thou there was plenty of time left. From then on Vermont seemed to try to make individual plays and got away from working together and with the exception of the Vock breakaway never got many chances the rest of the way.

Congrats Umass your team played excellent tonight.

umassfan49
11-25-2009, 02:08 AM
We didn't miss him this past weekend at all. :D

Cheverie was outstanding last weekend, especially on Friday. I think if your pal Adam Murray played holding back Genoway might have just been a nice thing for UND to do.

umassfan49
11-25-2009, 03:53 AM
I stand by what I said in post #1, just now I have proof.

By far the best offensive team I have seen all year. What was a very tight game was turned one sided in just a few minutes. First the 3 on 1 goal to tie the game on the no tripping call and then a tripping call in the same spot on the ice to set up the lead goal and Vermont never got back on track even thou there was plenty of time left. From then on Vermont seemed to try to make individual plays and got away from working together and with the exception of the Vock breakaway never got many chances the rest of the way.

Congrats Umass your team played excellent tonight.

I wouldn't go that far yet in saying they are the best out of the 2 UMass teams. The game on December 5th at Lowell will answer a lot of questions for both teams, such as how UMass will do against arguably the top hockey east team thus far, and how well they play in their barn. There is no doubt in my mind that these are the two best teams so far in hockey east, but as the season goes along both need to keep the momentum that they have attained. Its crucial for UMass to show Lowell that they are a strong team, and it is not a pushover game. That being said, Lowell is very explosive, and their pre-season hype is certainly well deserved. Honestly, I don't think either team will end up in 1st place at the end of the year, but both could certainly become NCAA teams.

So far this UMass team seems to be a lot more intact than earlier squads, as they don't give up when they are down. Last year's team probably would have packed it in against Yale when trailing in the 3rd, but they battled back and got the win. Lowell will be a test for them because they certainly have the scoring ability, and are obviously also a good team. That being said, I'd love for UMass to steal the game at Tsongas next Saturday, but I would much rather have them beating them in March and could truly say they were the better of the two.

Martin St. Louis Fan
11-25-2009, 03:32 PM
I stand by what I said in post #1, just now I have proof.

By far the best offensive team I have seen all year. .

Congrats Umass your team played excellent tonight.

We now know who is the best UMass team is. Amherst hands down!
Their offense is scary good. Lowell is good, but no were near Amherst good.

alan
11-25-2009, 03:33 PM
umassfan49, you continue to confuse me. Here, you say that UMass and Lowell are no doubt the two best teams in HE. On umasshoops you say that Vermont is a better team than UMass.

I'll give you a pass on this one, because you seem to know a lot about hockey and you root for the right team. :)

But you're on notice. :p

alan
11-25-2009, 03:33 PM
We now know who is the best UMass team is. Amherst hands down!
Their offense is scary good. Lowell is good, but no were near Amherst good.

This is going straight to TIiL.

Martin St. Louis Fan
11-25-2009, 05:18 PM
This is going straight to TIiL.

I thought it would become a Amherst fans signature! <LOL>

Martin St. Louis Fan
11-25-2009, 05:23 PM
Are there any VT fans left? What happened at the Gutt tonight? Are they still all stuck in that BC thread?

Good game Minutemen! On to the Q.

On Thanksgiving break.

alan
11-25-2009, 05:53 PM
I thought it would become a Amherst fans signature! <LOL>

I hardly think that anyone who supports the Lord Jeffs would care what a UVM fan thinks. ;)

jjmc85
11-25-2009, 10:31 PM
But you're on notice. :p
I'm pretty sure like you and me, he's Dead to Us. Just noticed they use maroon for that. I wonder why...:cool:

Martin St. Louis Fan
11-25-2009, 10:47 PM
I hardly think that anyone who supports the Lord Jeffs would care what a UVM fan thinks. ;)

What is a Lord Jeffs ?