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unofan
11-23-2009, 11:37 AM
Agree...NCAA-wide DI - DIII...and likely driven by the current landscape of DI and DIII college hockey.

Yeah, I doubt it. Like bigmrg said, the military angle's enough to keep it from happening. And, frankly, I doubt that many see it as a problem in the grand scheme of things; not everyone goes to college at 18 or even 21.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
11-23-2009, 11:59 AM
I love the continued speculation after we already know what the announcement is.

http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,17552/ReportFormerNHLPAChiefKellyHiredtoRunCollegeHockey Inc.html

joecct
11-23-2009, 12:50 PM
http://www.uscho.com/news/college-hockey/id,17552/ReportFormerNHLPAChiefKellyHiredtoRunCollegeHockey Inc.htmlSure we know, but can't we have fun?

I would have liked the WCHA and CCHA bosses in. It would lend more crediblity to the proceedings. Right now there is a distinct "Eastern Bias" to the proceedings.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
11-23-2009, 01:20 PM
Sure we know, but can't we have fun?

I would have liked the WCHA and CCHA bosses in. It would lend more crediblity to the proceedings. Right now there is a distinct "Eastern Bias" to the proceedings.

I do smell a conspiracy.

The Eastern Schools are using Kelly to enact their Eastern Bias ways and lord it over the West.

If Kelly wasn't ousted from the NHLPA, this grand scheme would fall apart. Two of the four NHLPA team representatives to vote against firing Kelly? Wisconsin alums Adam Burish and Chris Chelios.

Coincidence? I think not.

Lest we forget that I saw Freddy Meyer on the grassy knoll. And when you slow down MSNBC's footage of the second WTC tower being struck on 9-11, you'll see that its not even an airplane at all: it's RoboShark. Don't even get me started on Barack O-BROM-a. I have a copy of his birth certificate that proves that he was born in PROVICED. The DOTA is harboring WMDs, and their refusal to allow HE officials from inspecting their silos is proof that they are harboring insurgent Sioux fans and are forming Death Panels to murder Jack Parker.

Did I miss anything?

CHFAN222
11-23-2009, 01:21 PM
Not to be negative but how is this organization suppose to improve college hockey?

Are they going to get more/better TV deals?
Get more schools to add/not drop hockey?
Get UCONN mens to go to HE and field a competitive team so we can have another legitimate BCS school playing hockey at the top level? (Sorry Providence you may play in the Big East but you are not a BCS school)

justlookin'
11-23-2009, 02:40 PM
That would never happen. There's a lot of schools that recuit a local athlete, but the kid goes and sign up for the Military for a couple of years and when their stint is over, they come back home and go to college, and a few of them will go out for sports like football, and basketball. Politically, denying those kids the right to go play for a few years is suicidal. The NCAA won't touch it, and you can pretty much just figure on any kid in D1 getting 5 years to play 4 seasons.

Lot of posting for me:D

I would have agreed with you many years ago when there was a draft but the fact of the matter is that enlistment is free will. Really it is no different than a kid who wants to work to get some money together before attending college. It is a personal choice and free will so the military argument (while admirable) does not hold water.

Anyhow, I'm sticking to my belief that we will see age limitations and it will come soon and will have huge ramifications on the prep and junior landscape.

I hope I am wrong...

schiegs
11-23-2009, 03:50 PM
New Mega-Conference: Gonwondoland

Two divisions, 16 teams each.

You play teams in your division once a year, and the other division once every two years.

Who wants to hash out travel partners?

joecct
11-23-2009, 04:24 PM
Lot of posting for me:D

I would have agreed with you many years ago when there was a draft but the fact of the matter is that enlistment is free will. Really it is no different than a kid who wants to work to get some money together before attending college. It is a personal choice and free will so the military argument (while admirable) does not hold water.

Anyhow, I'm sticking to my belief that we will see age limitations and it will come soon and will have huge ramifications on the prep and junior landscape.

I hope I am wrong...D-II has pending legislation on just that. Allowed one "bridge year" after HS graduation and then it eats into your eligibility. How that effects the D-II playups remains to be seen.

I think there is an age exception for military and Mormon mission work.

joecct
11-23-2009, 04:39 PM
Bizzaroland

HEA: BC, BU, UNH, ME, UVM, PC, MA, CT, NE
IVY: CU, PU, YU, HU, DC, B
Empire: CCT, SLU, RPI, CU, U, RIT, CAN, NIA
AHA: UML, MER, BENT, AIC, SH, Mercy, RM, AFA, HC, USMA
West 1: \
West 2: \ Don't care how u do it.
Centra1 1: / 4 conferences of 6 for max TV coverage
Central 2: /

1/2 the NCAA field is AQ, the rest at-large

HEA: 24 conference games (3x) 10 OOC
Ivy: 20 conference games (4x) 9 OOC
Empire: 28 conference games (4x) - 6 OOC
AHA: 26 conference games (2 5 team divs. 4 in/2 out) - 8 OOC
West and Central 20 division games (4x) - 14 OOC

FlagDUDE08
11-23-2009, 04:53 PM
Bizzaroland

HEA: BC, BU, UNH, ME, UVM, PC, MA, CT, NE
IVY: CU, PU, YU, HU, DC, B
Empire: CCT, SLU, RPI, CU, U, RIT, CAN, NIA
AHA: UML, MER, BENT, AIC, SH, Mercy, RM, AFA, HC, USMA
West 1: \
West 2: \ Don't care how u do it.
Centra1 1: / 4 conferences of 6 for max TV coverage
Central 2: /

1/2 the NCAA field is AQ, the rest at-large

HEA: 24 conference games (3x) 10 OOC
Ivy: 20 conference games (4x) 9 OOC
Empire: 28 conference games (4x) - 6 OOC
AHA: 26 conference games (2 5 team divs. 4 in/2 out) - 8 OOC
West and Central 20 division games (4x) - 14 OOC

You forgot Q-Pac. Give them to Hockey East.

Also, UConn?

Kepler
11-23-2009, 05:00 PM
Get UCONN mens to go to HE and field a competitive team so we can have another legitimate BCS school playing hockey at the top level? (Sorry Providence you may play in the Big East but you are not a BCS school)

If the conferences aligned by school profile, UNH and Maine would be in the ECAC, UConn and Quinnipiac would be in Hockey East, and Union and Merrimack would be in the AHA.

Happily, they don't. I like the current configuration fine.

bigmrg74
11-24-2009, 01:21 AM
Lot of posting for me:D

I would have agreed with you many years ago when there was a draft but the fact of the matter is that enlistment is free will. Really it is no different than a kid who wants to work to get some money together before attending college. It is a personal choice and free will so the military argument (while admirable) does not hold water.

Anyhow, I'm sticking to my belief that we will see age limitations and it will come soon and will have huge ramifications on the prep and junior landscape.

I hope I am wrong...Sorry, I really don't see where the push from the NCAA Member schools would really come from on this. There's too many schools out in D3, D2 or even some D1's that love getting their hands on kids that have done a stint in the military. Those kids always have their heads on straight by the time that they're done with that, and can usually be counted on to become captains of their chosen sport, be it basketball, football, volleyball and others. I don't really see why any coach or AD's would really want to get rid of those kids. And the ones that go do missionary work are usually pretty well behaved as well.


D-II has pending legislation on just that. Allowed one "bridge year" after HS graduation and then it eats into your eligibility. How that effects the D-II playups remains to be seen.

I think there is an age exception for military and Mormon mission work.Last I checked, sports at schools at the NCAA D2 level don't have a clock to worry about. Those kids just get 10 fulltime semesters to use. A few D2 schools will have their football players be part time students in the winter semester and have them not participate in spring drills in order to get an extra year out of them playing in the fall.

Patman
11-24-2009, 07:44 AM
AHA: UML, MER, BENT, AIC, SH, Mercy, RM, AFA, HC, USMA


Yes, the #3 team in the nation is going to downgrade :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I'm not sure which is more idiotic... those that want Lowell to downgrade or those who think UConn will upgrade.

4four4
11-24-2009, 03:02 PM
When is the big realignment press conference coming?

Hammer
11-24-2009, 03:09 PM
Threeve-o'clock.

Brett Gobe
11-24-2009, 03:56 PM
BOSTON-- In a surprise announcement, the heads of the three Division-I hockey conferences have challenged the status quo in college hockey and have reinstated fighting.

"We felt it was time," said Hockey East commissioner Joe Bertagna. "As true with any college endeavor, athletics should be used to prepare the student athlete for the 'real world,' and with many of our athletes planing playing in the AHL, we felt fighting really needed to be made legal."

"People want to see fights, we just want the fan to get their money's worth," said Bob DeGregorio, the head of Atlantic Hockey. "With today's tough economy, why should we deny what the people want? This is really an opportunity for our universities and fans of those universities to diversify their entertainment dollar. Why just watch hockey, when you can watch hockey, and a fight?"

Looking for ways to spice up the action the head three added that in addition to removing the mandatory five minute penalty and game disqualification, that fighting would be judged by a fifth on ice official who would judge the fight sending the loser to the box and allowing the winner to continue play.

"Blade of Steel," exclaimed ECAC chief Steve Hagwel. "That's where we took the idea from. Research shows that people want to see fighting, mixed marshal arts is at the peak of popularity, and we really felt we could hit some key demographics with this move. With our conference championship moving to Atlantic City, we felt fighting was really right up our alley."

In a related story Matt Nickerson has applied for the final three years of NCAA eligibility.

jmh
11-24-2009, 03:59 PM
BOSTON-- In a surprise announcement, the heads of the three Division-I hockey conferences have challenged the status quo in college hockey and have reinstated fighting.

"We felt it was time," said Hockey East commissioner Joe Bertagna. "As true with any college endeavor, athletics should be used to prepare the student athlete for the 'real world,' and with many of our athletes planing playing in the AHL, we felt fighting really needed to be made legal."

"People want to see fights, we just want the fan to get their money's worth," said Bob DeGregorio, the head of Atlantic Hockey. "With today's tough economy, why should we deny what the people want? This is really an opportunity for our universities and fans of those universities to diversify their entertainment dollar. Why just watch hockey, when you can watch hockey, and a fight?"

Looking for ways to spice up the action the head three added that in addition to removing the mandatory five minute penalty and game disqualification, that fighting would be judged by a fifth on ice official who would judge the fight sending the loser to the box and allowing the winner to continue play.

"Blade of Steel," exclaimed ECAC chief Steve Hagwel. "That's where we took the idea from. Research shows that people want to see fighting, mixed marshal arts is at the peak of popularity, and we really felt we could hit some key demographics with this move. With our conference championship moving to Atlantic City, we felt fighting was really right up our alley."

In a related story Matt Nickerson has applied for the final three years of NCAA eligibility.There are not enough thumbs-up in the world for this post. :D

FlagDUDE08
11-24-2009, 04:25 PM
BOSTON-- In a surprise announcement, the heads of the three Division-I hockey conferences have challenged the status quo in college hockey and have reinstated fighting.

"We felt it was time," said Hockey East commissioner Joe Bertagna. "As true with any college endeavor, athletics should be used to prepare the student athlete for the 'real world,' and with many of our athletes planing playing in the AHL, we felt fighting really needed to be made legal."

"People want to see fights, we just want the fan to get their money's worth," said Bob DeGregorio, the head of Atlantic Hockey. "With today's tough economy, why should we deny what the people want? This is really an opportunity for our universities and fans of those universities to diversify their entertainment dollar. Why just watch hockey, when you can watch hockey, and a fight?"

Looking for ways to spice up the action the head three added that in addition to removing the mandatory five minute penalty and game disqualification, that fighting would be judged by a fifth on ice official who would judge the fight sending the loser to the box and allowing the winner to continue play.

"Blade of Steel," exclaimed ECAC chief Steve Hagwel. "That's where we took the idea from. Research shows that people want to see fighting, mixed marshal arts is at the peak of popularity, and we really felt we could hit some key demographics with this move. With our conference championship moving to Atlantic City, we felt fighting was really right up our alley."

In a related story Matt Nickerson has applied for the final three years of NCAA eligibility.

Brett Gobe, I believe you have won the thread.

Driftryder
11-24-2009, 04:31 PM
BOSTON-- In a surprise announcement, the heads of the three Division-I hockey conferences have challenged the status quo in college hockey and have reinstated fighting.

"We felt it was time," said Hockey East commissioner Joe Bertagna. "As true with any college endeavor, athletics should be used to prepare the student athlete for the 'real world,' and with many of our athletes planing playing in the AHL, we felt fighting really needed to be made legal."

"People want to see fights, we just want the fan to get their money's worth," said Bob DeGregorio, the head of Atlantic Hockey. "With today's tough economy, why should we deny what the people want? This is really an opportunity for our universities and fans of those universities to diversify their entertainment dollar. Why just watch hockey, when you can watch hockey, and a fight?"



Looking for ways to spice up the action the head three added that in addition to removing the mandatory five minute penalty and game disqualification, that fighting would be judged by a fifth on ice official who would judge the fight sending the loser to the box and allowing the winner to continue play.

"Blade of Steel," exclaimed ECAC chief Steve Hagwel. "That's where we took the idea from. Research shows that people want to see fighting, mixed marshal arts is at the peak of popularity, and we really felt we could hit some key demographics with this move. With our conference championship moving to Atlantic City, we felt fighting was really right up our alley."

In a related story Matt Nickerson has applied for the final three years of NCAA eligibility.


Good stuff.

Tweedle Dee
11-24-2009, 04:55 PM
BOSTON-- In a surprise announcement, the heads of the three Division-I hockey conferences have challenged the status quo in college hockey and have reinstated fighting.

"We felt it was time," said Hockey East commissioner Joe Bertagna. "As true with any college endeavor, athletics should be used to prepare the student athlete for the 'real world,' and with many of our athletes planing playing in the AHL, we felt fighting really needed to be made legal."

"People want to see fights, we just want the fan to get their money's worth," said Bob DeGregorio, the head of Atlantic Hockey. "With today's tough economy, why should we deny what the people want? This is really an opportunity for our universities and fans of those universities to diversify their entertainment dollar. Why just watch hockey, when you can watch hockey, and a fight?"

Looking for ways to spice up the action the head three added that in addition to removing the mandatory five minute penalty and game disqualification, that fighting would be judged by a fifth on ice official who would judge the fight sending the loser to the box and allowing the winner to continue play.

"Blade of Steel," exclaimed ECAC chief Steve Hagwel. "That's where we took the idea from. Research shows that people want to see fighting, mixed marshal arts is at the peak of popularity, and we really felt we could hit some key demographics with this move. With our conference championship moving to Atlantic City, we felt fighting was really right up our alley."

In a related story Matt Nickerson has applied for the final three years of NCAA eligibility.

Post of the Year canidate.