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Ed Trefzger
11-10-2009, 04:12 PM
As a proof that early Pairwise Rankings are of not much use, USCHO has put our PWR live for 2009-10 about 60 days earlier than usual.

As further proof, Jayson Moy has posted his first Bracketology blog post:
http://www.uscho.com/blogs/bracketology/jayson/20091110/what-theres-already-a-bracketology.html

One note -- because of the lack of number of games, the calculation for removing teams from your RPI that would hurt it is turned off until there are more games, because for one team, it removed every game.

Enjoy the meaninglessness!

Biddco
11-10-2009, 04:16 PM
The last thing I want to have USCHO become is ESPN. This feels like if a football player has one good game in college they talk about how its effecting his draft status. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Way too early. Talk to me in January.

Driftryder
11-10-2009, 04:19 PM
Eastern Bias

thebrain
11-10-2009, 04:20 PM
I think it's fun to look at it now and see how it changes in late March...

InebriatedMike
11-10-2009, 04:42 PM
This is more silly than the "voters" putting a 2-5 BU squad at #17 overall.

mcfarljd
11-10-2009, 04:43 PM
It means absolutely nothing obviously, but they still do the closest regional for the top teams correct? That'd mean it should be....

West Regional (St. Paul)

1. Bemidji State vs. 16 Air Force

8 Cornell vs. 9 Western Michigan

Midwest Regional (Ft. Wayne) -- Not Albany
2 Miami vs. 15 Minn.-Duluth

7 Alaska vs. 10 Boston College

East Regional (Albany) -- Not Worcestor
3 Michigan State vs. 13 Denver

6 Massachusetts vs. 11 Colorado College

Northeast Regional (Worcester) -- Not Fort Wayne
4 North Dakota vs. 14 Mass.-Lowell

5 Quinnipiac vs. 12 Notre Dame

USCHO GM
11-10-2009, 04:48 PM
Notre Dame is the host in Ft. Wayne.


It means absolutely nothing obviously, but they still do the closest regional for the top teams correct? That'd mean it should be....

West Regional (St. Paul)

1. Bemidji State vs. 16 Air Force

8 Cornell vs. 9 Western Michigan

Midwest Regional (Ft. Wayne) -- Not Albany
2 Miami vs. 15 Minn.-Duluth

7 Alaska vs. 10 Boston College

East Regional (Albany) -- Not Worcestor
3 Michigan State vs. 13 Denver

6 Massachusetts vs. 11 Colorado College

Northeast Regional (Worcester) -- Not Fort Wayne
4 North Dakota vs. 14 Mass.-Lowell

5 Quinnipiac vs. 12 Notre Dame

redhawkman10
11-10-2009, 04:58 PM
As a proof that early Pairwise Rankings are of not much use, USCHO has put our PWR live for 2009-10 about 60 days earlier than usual.

As further proof, Jayson Moy has posted his first Bracketology blog post:
http://www.uscho.com/blogs/bracketology/jayson/20091110/what-theres-already-a-bracketology.html

One note -- because of the lack of number of games, the calculation for removing teams from your RPI that would hurt it is turned off until there are more games, because for one team, it removed every game.

Enjoy the meaninglessness!

So for the folks over at Western Michigan should they save and frame this since it might be the only time they are in the top 10 of the PWR??? :D

mcfarljd
11-10-2009, 05:01 PM
Notre Dame is the host in Ft. Wayne.

My mistake, it was always said that the "CCHA" was the host, not a specific school, they must have changed that original stance.

Section 22
11-10-2009, 05:05 PM
Rensselaer is the host in the east regional, need an ECAC team there


It means absolutely nothing obviously, but they still do the closest regional for the top teams correct? That'd mean it should be....

West Regional (St. Paul)

1. Bemidji State vs. 16 Air Force

8 Cornell vs. 9 Western Michigan

Midwest Regional (Ft. Wayne) -- Not Albany
2 Miami vs. 15 Minn.-Duluth

7 Alaska vs. 10 Boston College

East Regional (Albany) -- Not Worcestor
3 Michigan State vs. 13 Denver

6 Massachusetts vs. 11 Colorado College

Northeast Regional (Worcester) -- Not Fort Wayne
4 North Dakota vs. 14 Mass.-Lowell

5 Quinnipiac vs. 12 Notre Dame

Goon
11-10-2009, 06:44 PM
As a proof that early Pairwise Rankings are of not much use, USCHO has put our PWR live for 2009-10 about 60 days earlier than usual.

As further proof, Jayson Moy has posted his first Bracketology blog post:
http://www.uscho.com/blogs/bracketology/jayson/20091110/what-theres-already-a-bracketology.html

One note -- because of the lack of number of games, the calculation for removing teams from your RPI that would hurt it is turned off until there are more games, because for one team, it removed every game.

Enjoy the meaninglessness!

You're kidding right?

GreatLakerMohawk
11-10-2009, 06:57 PM
I understand what you're all trying to do here, but this is pretty foolish to do this right now.

Polls provide enough cannon fodder for debate, and jumping into this stuff right now when a handful of the teams just started playing is wholeheartedly dumb.

Puck Swami
11-10-2009, 07:13 PM
It's too ridiculous to even be fun....

Stauber1
11-10-2009, 07:28 PM
Ferris got Jobbed

Patman
11-10-2009, 07:40 PM
Moy et. al. If you want to make things interesting get a Comp Sci professional to produce the model I've been using (nearly identical to Robin Lock's CHODR model) and apply it to the remaining games. I've clearly show that I suck at the little programming details and i don't know how to program tie-breakers. Seeing something like this:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/ps_odds.php

but a little more so would be way more interesting than the way too early PWR... I just suck at programming. I'd be disappointed that I couldn't get it done, but I'd love to see the results.

edit: if we make it to a worcester regional I'd do cartwheels... two weekends at the hotel of Mom and Dad would be nice (if we make the Fleet I'm going to get a Boston area hotel.)

Tater
11-10-2009, 07:55 PM
Merrimack got jobbed!! :mad:

vizoroo
11-10-2009, 07:57 PM
Well, there goes the anticipation for the first Bracketology.:p

Stauber1
11-10-2009, 08:02 PM
Merrimack got jobbed!! :mad:

:rolleyes:
psshht. Merrimack knew what they needed to do to get in the tournament. Those two losses at UND really cost them. All it probably would have taken is 1 tie in Grand Forks.

Ed Trefzger
11-10-2009, 08:58 PM
You're kidding right?

Well, here's the deal.

Every season we get bombarded by complaints starting about Thanksgiving that the PWR isn't up yet. And every season we've maintained that it doesn't make sense to have it up before early to mid January.

However, another source for the PWR has been available very early each of the past handful of seasons, so we decided to post it right from early in the season.

Jayson decided to hop on the fun and post on the blog.

There's really no winning on this one. But we won't be doing much in any seriousness until enough games are in the books.

Goon
11-10-2009, 09:00 PM
Well, here's the deal.

Every season we get bombarded by complaints starting about Thanksgiving that the PWR isn't up yet. And every season we've maintained that it doesn't make sense to have it up before early to mid January.

However, another source for the PWR has been available very early each of the past handful of seasons, so we decided to post it right from early in the season.

Jayson decided to hop on the fun and post on the blog.

There's really no winning on this one. But we won't be doing much in any seriousness until enough games are in the books.

Hey fair enough, thanks for the explaination. :) Yeah it's interesting to see teams come and go and where they finally end up.