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dmjossel
11-02-2009, 11:56 PM
How in the heck did this morph from an "Is Merrimack Back" thread into a "Marcou for Hobey" thread?

Merrimack has about two threads on this board, is it really necessary to hijack one of them? :confused:

umassfan49
11-02-2009, 11:57 PM
Did not watch him in the regionals but since I see many WCHA games, probably have watched him more than you. 1 goal on the PP last year (of 3 for the season) and 29 assists, many I am sure on the PP. 32 points total with a +/- of +5.

He is the typical smallish offensive defenseman that is probably too slow to play forward, too small to be physical on D. Yes, his hockey sense is good, otherwise he would not have the assist total he had last year. But that does not mean he is the complete package as a defenseman. And that is what you should be if you are in the running for the Hobey.

Last years Hobey, Matt Gilroy had 37 points and was a +22. Genoway is no Jordan Leopold or Matt Carle either (the last 2 D before Gilroy to win the Hobey).

you have to be kidding me. the kid is phenomenal defensively, especially given his size. he is also a playmaker and a great skater. he plays clean, solid hockey and was predicted a preseason all-american in a few polls. his scoring is picking up too as he has a pretty good shot when he can weave it through traffic. he is the total package in the best college hockey conference, what more can you ask for?

Salvo1017
11-03-2009, 01:25 AM
How in the heck did this morph from an "Is Merrimack Back" thread into a "Marcou for Hobey" thread?

Merrimack has about two threads on this board, is it really necessary to hijack one of them? :confused:

hahaha thank you! Merrimack is most definitely back. A perfect 5-0 at home with wins over two ranked teams including Vermont and BC.

The most intriguing part of the season so far is seeing how they have responded to getting scored on - especially early in the game.

At BC they went down 2-0 early in the first. In years past Mack would have packed it in and mentally sulked back to North Andover before the first intermission. Not anymore, their ability to get back into games and be in contention for at least a point shows that this team is here to play.

Go-UML
11-03-2009, 04:36 AM
How in the heck did this morph from an "Is Merrimack Back" thread into a "Marcou for Hobey" thread?

Merrimack has about two threads on this board, is it really necessary to hijack one of them? :confused:Don't go getting all excited about another thread. This is actually a recap of HE after October thread; the Merrimack part is the sub-title.

dmjossel
11-03-2009, 05:53 AM
Don't go getting all excited about another thread. This is actually a recap of HE after October thread; the Merrimack part is the sub-title.

We'll take second billing, we're not greedy :)

Scarlet
11-03-2009, 06:16 AM
How in the heck did this morph from an "Is Merrimack Back" thread into a "Marcou for Hobey" thread?

Merrimack has about two threads on this board, is it really necessary to hijack one of them? :confused:

Hi. Welcome to the board. This is what we do here. :)

Federal League
11-03-2009, 07:18 AM
How in the heck did this morph from an "Is Merrimack Back" thread into a "Marcou for Hobey" thread?

Merrimack has about two threads on this board, is it really necessary to hijack one of them? :confused:

If I made a thread about hijacking threads, someone would find a way to hijack it. It's this board's specialty.

ChiefWahoo
11-03-2009, 07:33 AM
Wouldn't Merrimack had to have been there in the first place in order to be "back"?

Merrimack was in the 1988 NCAA tournament as an independent and eliminated the HEA champion, Northeastern in the first round. In 1989 the year before they joined HEA they just missed making the tournament under controversial circumstances.

ChiefWahoo
11-03-2009, 07:35 AM
How in the heck did this morph from an "Is Merrimack Back" thread into a "Marcou for Hobey" thread?

Merrimack has about two threads on this board, is it really necessary to hijack one of them? :confused:

Just be happy one of them isn't about kicking MC out of HEA. :D

Tater
11-03-2009, 07:44 AM
In 1989 the year before they joined HEA they just missed making the tournament under controversial circumstances.

Was Benedetto involved? :confused: :cool:

Salvo1017
11-03-2009, 07:59 AM
Was Benedetto involved? :confused: :cool:

LOL legendary post

Jon
11-03-2009, 09:05 AM
**** you! Do you know how long I had to wait in traffic because of this? And I've never even once thought anything bad about Marcou ever.:D

By not muttering about getting the puck to Mikey and repeating the word diver like Beavis you committed a mortal sin. Repent!!

Chief- If Merrimak keeps this up, I fully expect a MC fan to start a "Kick BU Out of Hockey East!!" thread just for the sake of pay back.

John_Fuller
11-03-2009, 11:45 PM
Chief- If Merrimak keeps this up, I fully expect a MC fan to start a "Kick BU Out of Hockey East!!" thread just for the sake of pay back.

Who knows, if Merrimack wins on the 13th against BU, they just might ;) :p :D

dmjossel
11-04-2009, 05:02 AM
Merrimack was in the 1988 NCAA tournament as an independent and eliminated the HEA champion, Northeastern in the first round. In 1989 the year before they joined HEA they just missed making the tournament under controversial circumstances.

Well... controversial might be a stretch. Disappointing circumstances, yes.

Hrivnak had just bolted to the pros to go play for the Skipjacks in Washington's system. Reports were that he'd become academically ineligible. That left the MC pipes being tended by Craig DalFarra and John... John... darn I can't remember. Where's my media guide... oh yeah, Moltenbrey.

The NCAA selection committee looked at this (rightly, if you ask me, although it was disappointing at the time) as if Merrimack's team had been unquestionably weakened. Remembering a game against AIC where a shot was deflected by DalFarra off his stick, straight up into the air, over his head, and down into the goal behind him, it was hard to question them.

St. Cloud State got an Independent bid in the tourney that year. Merrimack didn't. The he team never got to see if their offense and defense could have carried them further than they got in '88. I tend to think... not very far.

By the time the team got to Hockey East full time, a lot of the players that brought them success as a Division 1 Independent had graduated. A Final Four berth, had the Warriors earned one in '88, might have been a huge boost to recruiting in those first few years. Instead, Merrimack ended up being a much smaller fish in a much larger pond, and getting... well, fried up quite a lot.

justinD
11-04-2009, 09:21 AM
Well... controversial might be a stretch. Disappointing circumstances, yes.



What kind of schedule was MC playing as an independent? I know UMass killed everyone as an independent, but they played an awful schedule. Niagara had that season where they won like 32 games, but I don't think they played too many teams of consequence (until UNH, right:D?).

boblav1
11-04-2009, 09:56 AM
What kind of schedule was MC playing as an independent? I know UMass killed everyone as an independent, but they played an awful schedule. Niagara had that season where they won like 32 games, but I don't think they played too many teams of consequence (until UNH, right:D?).

Here's the schedule from the Merrimack media guide (page 58) for the 1988/1989 season, the year before joining Hockey East. I believe Alaska Anchorage, Alabama Huntsville & Notre Dame were all DI Indepedents at the time. Union was DIII.
http://www.merrimackathletics.com/sports/mice/2009-10/MC_Hockey_0910.pdf

1988/1989 Schedule (27-7-0)

10/28 W 9 vs. Dalhousie! 7
10/29 L 2 @ Maine! 4
11/4 W 4 vs. Wisco.-River Falls# 2
11/5 W 11 @ Plattsburgh State# 2
11/12 W 4 St. Anselm 0
11/15 L 2 @ New Hampshire 5
11/18 W 6 American International$2
11/19 W 6 St. Anselm$ 0
11/21 W 10 Norwich 3
11/23 W 3 @ Notre Dame 1
11/25 W 4 @ Notre Dame 3 (OT)
11/30 W 11 Holy Cross 0
12/2 W 4 @ Northeastern 3
12/7 W 4 @ Providence 2
12/21 W 2 @ Alaska-Anchorage 1
12/22 L 3 @ Alaska-Anchorage 5
12/30 L 2 @ Alabama-Huntsville 3
12/31 W 6 @ Alabama-Huntsville 2
1/4 W 7 @ Holy Cross 1
1/7 W 6 Notre Dame 0
1/14 W 7 Elmira 3
1/17 W 6 @ Bowdoin 3
1/20 W 2 Clarkson 1
1/21 L 3 St. Lawrence 6
1/24 W 4 Babson 1
1/28 L 3 @ Union 6
1/31 W 7 @ Colby 1
2/4 W 6 Salem State 0
2/11 W 11 @ St. Anselm 2
2/13 L 2 @ American Intíl 5
2/15 W 7 Lowell 4
2/18 W 13 Connecticut 1
ecac east Playoffs
3/1 W 12 Mass Boston (SF) 1
3/4 W 9 Bowdoin (F) 4

dmjossel
11-04-2009, 10:00 AM
What kind of schedule was MC playing as an independent? I know UMass killed everyone as an independent, but they played an awful schedule. Niagara had that season where they won like 32 games, but I don't think they played too many teams of consequence (until UNH, right:D?).

I'll have to defer to MikeM or somebody else who has a media guide on hand. They played NU that year in the regular season, as well as St. Lawrence and Clarkson (a split).

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/27/sports/college-hockey-notebook-merrimack-hoping-for-independent-bid.html

UNH is a team of consequence?

I always figured they were Tweedle Dee to Providence's Tweedle Dum, standing guard at the gates that keep the little teams from playing with the big boys (BU, BC, and Team That Used To Be Maine).

Just kidding :)

dmjossel
11-04-2009, 10:27 AM
Actually I was thinking of '87-88, but there are similarities.

That year they beat Brown 4-1, Lowell 5-3, NU 3-2 (OT), UAF 5-1, Clarkson 1-0, and then NU and in the NCAAs before falling to LSSU in the second round.

Div1 Losse that year were St. Lawrence 7-3, Lowell 6-5.

As Lowell had done in years earlier, the team was pretty dominant in their league (Which was Division II at the time, not III.)

Scores like 13-2 over Colby, 9-0 over UConn, 10-3 over Air Force, 10-0 over Union, 13-2 over Umass Boston 7-2 over AIC were typical.

Of course they did not have those kinds of gaudy scores against Div 1 teams, but they would have more than held their own. That team was far and away more talented than the teams that actually had to compete in Hockey East in the early 90s.

If they had joined a year or two earlier, things might have been quite, quite different. Instead of finishing 8th their first year, they might have been middle of the pack, and it might have helped a lot in recruiting to be able to show that the program was only a few steps away from being night-in, night-out competitive with the country's best teams, instead of being a flash in the pan.

Federal League
11-04-2009, 10:30 AM
Here's the schedule from the Merrimack media guide (page 58) for the 1988/1989 season, the year before joining Hockey East. I believe Alaska Anchorage, Alabama Huntsville & Notre Dame were all DI Indepedents at the time. Union was DIII.
http://www.merrimackathletics.com/sports/mice/2009-10/MC_Hockey_0910.pdf

1988/1989 Schedule (27-7-0)

Wow, they really stacked up on the powerhouses. :rolleyes:

dmjossel
11-04-2009, 08:59 PM
Wow, they really stacked up on the powerhouses. :rolleyes:

They played their ECAC schedule plus the teams that would play them. Most teams did NOT want to play them.

Div 1 teams had everything to lose and nothing to gain. If they'd won, it would be because they should have. If they lost, it was embarassing. Sort of like Maine losing to Bentley.

They won most of the games they were able to schedule, including two out of three against the beanpot and hockey east champion that year, backstopped by All-American Bruce Racine. Then they were the only team to beat the eventual national champion at home that year. The following season, until their netminder became ineligible, they continued to do the same.

Yeah, you're right. NU, Clarkson, Lowell... just pushovers, really.

I realize it's fashionable to call for the exit of Merrimack from Hockey East these days, but to people honestly think the school was added just to round out the count of eight? That the league office, at the time, given the performance of the team between '86 and '89, didn't look like it belonged there? Not to mention the fact that the ECAC wanted them out and that Division 2 was beginning its collapse.