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  • Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected

    Originally posted by Happy View Post
    Did they own the rights to air those games?
    When the original CCHA TV schedule came out, the BTN was scheduled to air the Michigan vs. Minnesota game. That was later changed to Fox Sports North. I'm not sure what the broadcast pecking order is, though, if Fox Sports gets first dibs on all game or if the BTN gets dibs on any game involving Big Ten teams, and if that's why it changed or if the BTN simply dropped it.

    Wasn't Saturday's MSU/Minn game broadcast on the BTN's website (for a fee)? I'm sure they could have aired that on TV, even tape delayed, if they wanted.
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      If minnesota has a brain we'll fight as hard as we can to prevent the Big Ten from having any broadcast rights to those games.

      The Big Ten doesn't give two ****s about hockey and would probably end up wrecking all that is good about it. Less coverage, less promotions, and therefore crappier exposure. Less exposure = dead sport or relegation to The Ocho.
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      • Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected

        Originally posted by M-HockeyNet View Post
        When the original CCHA TV schedule came out, the BTN was scheduled to air the Michigan vs. Minnesota game. That was later changed to Fox Sports North. I'm not sure what the broadcast pecking order is, though, if Fox Sports gets first dibs on all game or if the BTN gets dibs on any game involving Big Ten teams, and if that's why it changed or if the BTN simply dropped it.

        Wasn't Saturday's MSU/Minn game broadcast on the BTN's website (for a fee)? I'm sure they could have aired that on TV, even tape delayed, if they wanted.
        What I don't get is 49% of the BTN is owned by Fox(51% Big Ten) so if the BTN has something more interesting to air, why not drop it to a Fox Sports regional channel?

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          Comley: "Wisconsin ... prefer(s) a Big Ten Conference."

          I believe the lion's share of the Wisconsin fans do not prefer a BTN conference. I believe Eaves has been quoted as not in favor of the BTN. IF both of those are true, then we are left with Wisconsin = Alvarez.

          Is that overstating the case?

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            Originally posted by RedFreak View Post
            Comley: "Wisconsin ... prefer(s) a Big Ten Conference."

            I believe the lion's share of the Wisconsin fans do not prefer a BTN conference. I believe Eaves has been quoted as not in favor of the BTN. IF both of those are true, then we are left with Wisconsin = Alvarez.

            Is that overstating the case?
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              Originally posted by RedFreak View Post
              Comley: "Wisconsin ... prefer(s) a Big Ten Conference."

              I believe the lion's share of the Wisconsin fans do not prefer a BTN conference. I believe Eaves has been quoted as not in favor of the BTN. IF both of those are true, then we are left with Wisconsin = Alvarez.

              Is that overstating the case?
              Probably. Would it make sense for Badgers fans that are indeed against the Big Televen to start a little e-mail campaign to Alvarez, just so he knows what the people who pay at least a part of his salary think?
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                Originally posted by Larch View Post
                Probably. Would it make sense for Badgers fans that are indeed against the Big Televen to start a little e-mail campaign to Alvarez, just so he knows what the people who pay at least a part of his salary think?
                That's where I was going with this. But first I'm looking for contrary evidence to the hypothesis: "Only Alvarez thinks this is a good idea."

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                • Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected

                  Originally posted by RedFreak View Post
                  I believe the lion's share of the Wisconsin fans do not prefer a BTN conference. I believe Eaves has been quoted as not in favor of the BTN. IF both of those are true, then we are left with Wisconsin = Alvarez.
                  Not sure if there's an Eaves quote floating around anywhere. The original article on the topic from Andy Baggot said that Eaves wasn't in favor of Wisconsin jumping from the WCHA to the CCHA, as was rumored during the BTHC talks should plans for the conference not materialize.

                  The article said Alvarez and UW senior associate athletic director Sean Frazier share "major concerns" about the overall health and direction of D-I hockey, so it's not just Barry who wants to see big changes. Ohio State also sounds in favor of the conference in the article.

                  Strongly for: Wisconsin
                  In favor: Ohio State
                  Unknown: Michigan
                  Not in favor (at the moment): Michigan State
                  Strongly against: Minnesota
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                  • Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected

                    Originally posted by Happy View Post
                    has Barry ever even watched a hockey game?
                    Alvarez was at the regional in Green Bay a few years ago. I rode in an elevator with him from the press box/suites to the main concourse.
                    Originally posted by M-HockeyNet View Post
                    Not sure if there's an Eaves quote floating around anywhere. The original article on the topic from Andy Baggot said that Eaves wasn't in favor of Wisconsin jumping from the WCHA to the CCHA, as was rumored during the BTHC talks should plans for the conference not materialize.

                    The article said Alvarez and UW senior associate athletic director Sean Frazier share "major concerns" about the overall health and direction of D-I hockey, so it's not just Barry who wants to see big changes. Ohio State also sounds in favor of the conference in the article.

                    Strongly for: Wisconsin
                    In favor: Ohio State
                    Unknown: Michigan
                    Not in favor (at the moment): Michigan State
                    Strongly against: Minnesota
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                      Originally posted by moose97 View Post
                      Alvarez was at the regional in Green Bay a few years ago. I rode in an elevator with him from the press box/suites to the main concourse.
                      Alvarez riding in an elevator still doesn't answer the question of whether he actually watched the hockey game
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                      • Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected

                        Originally posted by M-HockeyNet View Post
                        Alvarez riding in an elevator still doesn't answer the question of whether he actually watched the hockey game
                        touche... He was talking about the game (I was going to the post game presser), so someone must have at least told him Bucky looked good beating BSU
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                        CCHA: BSU, BG, FSU, LSSU, MSU, MTU, NMU
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                        NCHC: Miami, UMD, UND, SCSU, WMU
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                          Originally posted by moose97 View Post
                          touche... He was talking about the game (I was going to the post game presser), so someone must have at least told him Bucky looked good beating BSU
                          Did he ask when the next time Wisconsin would get 4 home games in the NCAA's?
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                            Originally posted by Happy View Post
                            has Barry ever even watched a hockey game?
                            I watched a scalper try and sell him a ticket outside the Bradley Center during the 2006 Frozen Four.

                            He didn't buy the ticket, so I can't confirm he saw those games.

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                              Start a Big Ten conference, and let em go play each other. Then see how attendance drops, tv revenues fall short, and all the other teams beat up on them, as their recruiting starts to suck.
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                              • Re: Big Ten conference discussed, rejected

                                Originally posted by Happy View Post
                                Did they own the rights to air those games?
                                No, they did not.

                                Originally posted by MinnesotaNorthStar View Post
                                I believe they get to cherry pick games involving Big Ten teams...not sure on the exact legalities of it though, so I could be wrong.
                                You're wrong.

                                There are still competing contracts here, as all Big Ten schools are also party to conference-based and individual school-based TV contracts.

                                Originally posted by RedFreak View Post
                                Comley: "Wisconsin ... prefer(s) a Big Ten Conference."

                                I believe the lion's share of the Wisconsin fans do not prefer a BTN conference. I believe Eaves has been quoted as not in favor of the BTN. IF both of those are true, then we are left with Wisconsin = Alvarez.

                                Is that overstating the case?
                                I also think Comley phrased his words poorly, and you're cherry picking his statement a bit. Reading on in that article, it's clear that Comley's talking about a Big Ten 'conference' while still retaining the WCHA and CCHA affiliations. Basically, if you knocked the WCHA and CCHA conference seasons down to 22 games or so, you could easily just have the teams schedule each other in OOC games to fill out the rest and have a full round robin between all of the 5 BT schools. You essentially can have two conferences at once.

                                The conventional use of the word conference, however, is mutually exclusive with membership in another conference.

                                This is a complex issue, and trying to boil it down to soundbytes won't help things.
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