PDA

View Full Version : Union at St. Cloud (10/16, 10/17) - Never Won vs. Never Been



Pages : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 [17] 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51

ScoobyDoo
10-14-2009, 03:04 PM
:eek:

LOL. I liked that one too. :D

GreatLakerMohawk
10-14-2009, 03:05 PM
Spoken by someone who has never been driven deaf by the horn at Cheel or the siren at Appleton. Or the Harvard tuba band.


:eek:

Yeah they'll fart right in your ear like that.

For what it's worth, Messa Rink is pretty loud, like an echo chamber.

Jon
10-14-2009, 03:06 PM
I'm thrilled I am the one who is able to bring all of you together.

You're more worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize than Obama.

UnionHockeyManiac
10-14-2009, 03:06 PM
I see people quoting the "Ecacobserver" but did he delete it? I can't find the original.

Red Cloud
10-14-2009, 03:07 PM
St. Cloud (note there's only one "o") Sweeps...

I am determined to see this thread live on through the ages by helping Jon establish St, Clooud as the new {PROVICED.

SCSU Euro
10-14-2009, 03:07 PM
Spoken by someone who has never been driven deaf by the horn at Cheel or the siren at Appleton. Or the Harvard tuba band.

Sorry, I was making reference to noise created by fans clapping or cheering... not using (annoying) tools and instruments.

UnionHockeyManiac
10-14-2009, 03:08 PM
I'm sorry I have to leave all of you again but believe it or not, I have to go teach a class in Albany from 4:00-6:00. I'll be back by 7:00 though. See you all then!

***Hoping this thread be 20 pages when I get back.***

Jon
10-14-2009, 03:09 PM
:eek:

The Harvard tuba band is awesome. I'm not sure if that's a permanent feature or one that was only there the one time I was at Bright, but it should be.

I hear this place called "Lynah" is fairly active as well.

Red Cloud
10-14-2009, 03:10 PM
A BRIEF HISTORY OF UNION HOCKEY
A RED CLOUD PRODUCTION

Part I: The Calm Before the Suck


A popular description of the history of hockey at Union College was once written by a Cornell fan site, which said simply, “they have no history.” While mostly accurate and humorous in and of itself, the statement only scratches the surface, a mere allusion to the short and practically entirely humiliating existence of hockey at this small liberal arts school in the city of Schenectady, a town whose claim to fame lies in the founding of General Electric in 1878 and being the company’s headquarters for almost a century before the squalor and the unbelievable smell sent the company packing for Connecticut.

Let us first touch upon an important factor of all athletics at Union – a strange fixation on the local school located just 20 miles east on New York State Route 7, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. Despite the academic inequity between the two institutions (Union is primarily a liberal arts school, while RPI has always had its focus on science and engineering), the “Dutchmen” have always focused their main attention on RPI. While the “Engineers” have traditionally paid little attention to football, Union, a traditionally a local power, took their greatest joy when defeating RPI. From 1960 to 1996, RPI was only good enough to beat Union 5 times. Yet somehow, this was considered their greatest rivalry.

The fixation eventually traveled over into the sport they did focus on at RPI – hockey. The sport does date all the way back to 1904 at the school, but from 1904 to 1949, the team never played more than 9 games in a single season before going under ahead of the 1950s. In 1975, however, the modern incarnation of hockey at Union began with a stat that would become familiar through the years – requiring an RPI associated figure to jumpstart things. In this case, it was legendary coach Ned Harkness, who won national titles at RPI as both a hockey coach and a lacrosse coach before winning two NCAA hockey crowns at Cornell and then serving as coach and general manager of the Detroit Red Wings. Harkness restarted the hockey program at Union, with the team playing at the Division III level that the rest of the school competed at.

Initially, the program under Harkness was actually very successful. Owing greatly to Harkness’ already legendary reputation developed at RPI and Cornell, the Dutchmen attracted some very good players – good enough that the first (and to date, only) Union player to go on to the NHL, goaltender Steve Baker, played in Division III under Harkness. In just their first season, the Skating Dutchmen went 19-4-0, and followed up with a 22-3-1 season in 1976-77. A glorious existence as a Division III powerhouse beckoned.

But something was amiss in Schenectady. It was obvious that Harkness was bringing in high quality talent, but in December 1977, after starting off with a 4-1-1 record, he abruptly quit the team. News began to leak out that Harkness and the Union administration had been at odds with each other for quite some time – perhaps, it is rumored, because the team was TOO successful. It is also likely that Union’s success had come on the back of NESCAC recruiting violations. Whatever the reasoning, the entire team, including Baker, quit with Harkness, and the JV team was forced to undertake the rest of the remaining 13 games, proceeding to lose every single one of them.


Next: Establishing the Tradition

state of hockey
10-14-2009, 03:10 PM
Who was it that made that {PROVICED jersey? Get them on a St, Clooud one immediately


Wait, Harvard has a tuba band?

DisplacedCornellian
10-14-2009, 03:13 PM
St. Cloud (note there's only one "o") Sweeps...

St, Clooud may have more offensive talent, but I'm not sure you match Union's intense strive for mediocrity. I mean, Union has just as many NCAA wins as St, Clooud, which is saying something.

UnionHockeyManiac
10-14-2009, 03:13 PM
A BRIEF HISTORY OF UNION HOCKEY
A RED CLOUD PRODUCTION

Part I: The Calm Before the Suck


A popular description of the history of hockey at Union College was once written by a Cornell fan site, which said simply, “they have no history.” While mostly accurate and humorous in and of itself, the statement only scratches the surface, a mere allusion to the short and practically entirely humiliating existence of hockey at this small liberal arts school in the city of Schenectady, a town whose claim to fame lies in the founding of General Electric in 1878 and being the company’s headquarters for almost a century before the squalor and the unbelievable smell sent the company packing for Connecticut.

Let us first touch upon an important factor of all athletics at Union – a strange fixation on the local school located just 20 miles east on New York State Route 7, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. Despite the academic inequity between the two institutions (Union is primarily a liberal arts school, while RPI has always had its focus on science and engineering), the “Dutchmen” have always focused their main attention on RPI. While the “Engineers” have traditionally paid little attention to football, Union, a traditionally a local power, took their greatest joy when defeating RPI. From 1960 to 1996, RPI was only good enough to beat Union 5 times. Yet somehow, this was considered their greatest rivalry.

The fixation eventually traveled over into the sport they did focus on at RPI – hockey. The sport does date all the way back to 1904 at the school, but from 1904 to 1949, the team never played more than 9 games in a single season before going under ahead of the 1950s. In 1975, however, the modern incarnation of hockey at Union began with a stat that would become familiar through the years – requiring an RPI associated figure to jumpstart things. In this case, it was legendary coach Ned Harkness, who won national titles at RPI as both a hockey coach and a lacrosse coach before winning two NCAA hockey crowns at Cornell and then serving as coach and general manager of the Detroit Red Wings. Harkness restarted the hockey program at Union, with the team playing at the Division III level that the rest of the school competed at.

Initially, the program under Harkness was actually very successful. Owing greatly to Harkness’ already legendary reputation developed at RPI and Cornell, the Dutchmen attracted some very good players – good enough that the first (and to date, only) Union player to go on to the NHL, goaltender Steve Baker, played in Division III under Harkness. In just their first season, the Skating Dutchmen went 19-4-0, and followed up with a 22-3-1 season in 1976-77. A glorious existence as a Division III powerhouse beckoned.

But something was amiss in Schenectady. It was obvious that Harkness was bringing in high quality talent, but in December 1977, after starting off with a 4-1-1 record, he abruptly quit the team. News began to leak out that Harkness and the Union administration had been at odds with each other for quite some time – perhaps, it is rumored, because the team was TOO successful. It is also likely that Union’s success had come on the back of NESCAC recruiting violations. Whatever the reasoning, the entire team, including Baker, quit with Harkness, and the JV team was forced to undertake the rest of the remaining 13 games, proceeding to lose every single one of them.


Next: Establishing the Tradition

That's cool. You posted this on page 16 and no one responded so you figured, "****IT!!! I spent 3 HOURS on this...I MUST GET RESPONSE! IMA POST IT ON 17 TOOO!"

All I see in your post is:

"I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. "

Red Cloud
10-14-2009, 03:15 PM
"I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. I have no life. "

This is the person that had to clear out to get to Albany to teach a class. At least the fixation is moving from a school not involved in this series to being the determinant of who "has a life."

Don't worry, sweetheart, you'll be able to read the rest of it when you get home. If you want, it's not really a pretty story - but it's all true.

GreatLakerMohawk
10-14-2009, 03:18 PM
This is the person that had to clear out to get to Albany to teach a class.

He didn't say what kind of class though.

http://i134.***********.com/albums/q109/StatMan79/pitt.jpg

ScoobyDoo
10-14-2009, 03:18 PM
St, Clooud may have more offensive talent, but I'm not sure you match Union's intense strive for mediocrity. I mean, Union has just as many NCAA wins as St, Clooud, which is saying something.

That one's going to leave a mark. :eek:

Jon
10-14-2009, 03:19 PM
Who was it that made that {PROVICED jersey? Get them on a St, Clooud one immediately


Wait, Harvard has a tuba band?

Beer Pong Horn, I think we have a task of you!

Red Cloud
10-14-2009, 03:24 PM
A BRIEF HISTORY OF UNION HOCKEY
A RED CLOUD PRODUCTION

Part II: Establishing the Tradition


It took six years for the program to recover from the loss of Harkness and his recruits, but a ray of sunshine appeared in the 1983-84 season. That year, the Skating Dutchmen had their first winning season since the Harkness affair, going 19-11-1 and reaching the inaugural NCAA Division III national championship game. However, in another occurrence that would become commonplace at Union, the ray of sunshine was quickly darkened the way it was when Harkness left. The Dutchmen faced the Babson Beavers in the title game, and proceeded to get completely manhandled, losing the national championship in embarrassing fashion, 8-0. Meanwhile, their hated cross-region “rivals” would go on to claim the Division I championship the following season (though the Dutch did manage to take the Engineers’ scrubs to overtime in a game in Schenectady before losing that season).

The Dutch did string together a good run of decent seasons in Division III after their drubbing in the ’84 title game. They would have only one losing season from 1985 to 1991. In ’91, in response to the departure of Army from the ECAC to the independent ranks, Union decided they were ready to test their “rivals” in Division I. What’s more, they were prepared to do so without offering athletic scholarships like Clarkson or St. Lawrence.

What followed was a losing streak that only the Detroit Lions and Pittsburgh Pirates have anything on. The Dutchmen were 6-43-1 in their first two seasons in Division I, and finished in the single digits in the win column in 7 of their first 9 seasons. Since 1991-92, the Dutchmen have finished dead last in the ECAC on five occasions, tying them with Brown for the most seasons in last in that stretch.

The first minor ray of hope came in 1994, when Union qualified for the ECAC playoffs for the first time. They traveled to their hated “rivals” in Troy for a best-of-three series and, to everyone’s surprise, won the first game of the series, 4-3. But once again, the light would be shut out – the Engineers snapped out of it and proceeded to pound the Dutchmen, 5-1 and 8-3 on consecutive night to end any pretense of upset.

Those two losses began a long string of playoff futility for Union. They would be taken down at Princeton in a preliminary round game, 5-2, the following season, and were swept at RPI in 1997 in their only playoff appearance between 1996 and 1999. Their playoff re-emergence in 2000 ended in a brutal sweep at the hands of St. Lawrence, the eventual league champion. The same result took place the following season, as the Saints demolished Union 6-3 and 4-2 in Canton to run Union’s playoff losing streak to nine in a row.


Next: Redefining Suck

RaceBoarder
10-14-2009, 03:25 PM
Posting for later....


Also, I went to Union Elementary School... Does that win me any prizes?

Red Cloud
10-14-2009, 03:25 PM
He didn't say what kind of class though.

http://i134.***********.com/albums/q109/StatMan79/pitt.jpg

I salute you, sir.

nmupiccdiva
10-14-2009, 03:26 PM
Who was it that made that {PROVICED jersey? Get them on a St, Clooud one immediately


Wait, Harvard has a tuba band?

And get me one. My Halloween idea may have just changed...