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Bullitt
09-29-2009, 03:14 PM
Interesting, to say the least...

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The 15th annual USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll is conducted each week in conjunction with the American Hockey Coaches Association. The poll includes input from coaches and journalists representing each of the six NCAA Division I ice hockey conferences, as well as composite votes from officers of the American Hockey Coaches Association and USA Hockey Magazine, the official publication of USA Hockey.

September 28 , 2009

No. Team (First-place votes) Points
1. Miami (4) 457
2. Denver (13) 455
3. Boston University (12) 438
4. Michigan 384
5. Notre Dame (5) 370
6. Minnesota 270
7. Cornell 254
8. North Dakota 227
9. Princeton 223
10. UMass Lowell 175
11. Yale 149
12. Boston College 117
13. St. Cloud State 106
14. Wisconsin 80
15. Vermont 73

Also receiving votes: New Hampshire 71, Minnesota Duluth 64, Ohio State 60, Air Force 43, Northern Michigan 31, Colorado College 8, Northeastern 8, Bemidji State 6, Harvard 3, Mercyhurst 3, Niagara 3, St. Lawrence 2.

ScoobyDoo
09-29-2009, 03:15 PM
There's Minnesota in the top 10 again. When will these pollsters ever learn? :mad:

DisplacedCornellian
09-29-2009, 03:17 PM
Interesting, to say the least...

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The 15th annual USA Today/USA Hockey Magazine Men's College Hockey Poll is conducted each week in conjunction with the American Hockey Coaches Association. The poll includes input from coaches and journalists representing each of the six NCAA Division I ice hockey conferences, as well as composite votes from officers of the American Hockey Coaches Association and USA Hockey Magazine, the official publication of USA Hockey.

September 28 , 2009

No. Team (First-place votes) Points
1. Miami (4) 457
2. Denver (13) 455
3. Boston University (12) 438
4. Michigan 384
5. Notre Dame (5) 370
6. Minnesota 270
7. Cornell 254
8. North Dakota 227
9. Princeton 223
10. UMass Lowell 175
11. Yale 149
12. Boston College 117
13. St. Cloud State 106
14. Wisconsin 80
15. Vermont 73

Also receiving votes: New Hampshire 71, Minnesota Duluth 64, Ohio State 60, Air Force 43, Northern Michigan 31, Colorado College 8, Northeastern 8, Bemidji State 6, Harvard 3, Mercyhurst 3, Niagara 3, St. Lawrence 2.

3 EZAC teams in the top 15, and only 5 WCHA teams?!? Eastern BIAS!!!!Eleventyone1!!!

Driftryder
09-29-2009, 04:17 PM
Dang Poles!

Rover
09-29-2009, 04:20 PM
Not understanding Lowell above BC, UNH, and Vermont. If they ended finishing above one of those teams this year I think they'd be thrilled.

mookie1995
09-29-2009, 04:27 PM
Not understanding Lowell above BC, UNH, and Vermont. If they ended finishing above one of those teams this year I think they'd be thrilled.

your coach will be voting them #1 in the preseason HEA poll.;)

Patronick
09-29-2009, 04:37 PM
Not understanding Lowell above BC, UNH, and Vermont. If they ended finishing above one of those teams this year I think they'd be thrilled.

Sure, I'll bite.

They lose just three players to graduation. They have one of the best defenses in the country, led by All American Maury Edwards. They have two proven goaltenders.

BC, UNH and Vermont all lost a lot of talent to graduation. Lowell owned Vermont last when they had Hobey candidate Viktor Stalberg, I don't see any evidence to make me believe that that status quo won't be maintained. BC finished 6th last year and start the season with Muse out for (most of?) the first half.

I don't understand other HE fans not seeing the obvious. Maybe when the coaches poll comes out and Lowell is 1-2 (probably second, BU national title and all) they'll get the picture.

KnowItAll
09-29-2009, 04:42 PM
Sure, I'll bite.

They lose just three players to graduation. They have one of the best defenses in the country, led by All American Maury Edwards. They have two proven goaltenders.

BC, UNH and Vermont all lost a lot of talent to graduation. Lowell owned Vermont last when they had Hobey candidate Viktor Stalberg, I don't see any evidence to make me believe that that status quo won't be maintained. BC finished 6th last year and start the season with Muse out for (most of?) the first half.

I don't understand other HE fans not seeing the obvious. Maybe when the coaches poll comes out and Lowell is 1-2 (probably second, BU national title and all) they'll get the picture.


yeah, but BC has Whitney... he was awesome last year, and

Lowell has only Falite, who cannot skate or score and
Holmstrom who plays like a little girl... never competes, plays hard, hits or looks like he wants to win:D :D :D

(If Jimmy Hayes starts playing the way I think he is capable of playing, I will sing a different tune, but as of now... Lowell should be FAR superior to BC... Hutton and Hamilton together and are better than Muse, in my opinion)

kdaddy
09-29-2009, 07:11 PM
Not understanding Lowell above BC, UNH, and Vermont. If they ended finishing above one of those teams this year I think they'd be thrilled.

It's the 11 players they have that are 23+.....at some point they will outplay the under 20's. This would appear to be that year.

kdaddy
09-29-2009, 07:13 PM
Sure, I'll bite.

They lose just three players to graduation. They have one of the best defenses in the country, led by All American Maury Edwards. They have two proven goaltenders.

BC, UNH and Vermont all lost a lot of talent to graduation. Lowell owned Vermont last when they had Hobey candidate Viktor Stalberg, I don't see any evidence to make me believe that that status quo won't be maintained. BC finished 6th last year and start the season with Muse out for (most of?) the first half.

I don't understand other HE fans not seeing the obvious. Maybe when the coaches poll comes out and Lowell is 1-2 (probably second, BU national title and all) they'll get the picture.

And last year has what to do with this pole? If status quo is is maintained we can look for UML to finish behind UVM and UNH again? ;)

quiddlet
09-29-2009, 07:34 PM
Sure, I'll bite.

They lose just three players to graduation. They have one of the best defenses in the country, led by All American Maury Edwards. They have two proven goaltenders.

BC, UNH and Vermont all lost a lot of talent to graduation. Lowell owned Vermont last when they had Hobey candidate Viktor Stalberg, I don't see any evidence to make me believe that that status quo won't be maintained. BC finished 6th last year and start the season with Muse out for (most of?) the first half.

I don't understand other HE fans not seeing the obvious. Maybe when the coaches poll comes out and Lowell is 1-2 (probably second, BU national title and all) they'll get the picture.

Agree, as a BU fan, UML scares me more than any other Hockey East team starting the season.

Biddco
09-29-2009, 09:08 PM
Can someone explain to me what all the points mean? Like how do they figure votes into points? This is something that doesn't make much sense to me.

Fighting Sioux 23
09-29-2009, 09:11 PM
Can someone explain to me what all the points mean? Like how do they figure votes into points? This is something that doesn't make much sense to me.

1st place = 15 points
2nd place = 14 points
3rd place = 13 points
4th place = 12 points
5th place = 11 points
6th place = 10 points
7th place = 9 points
8th place = 8 points
9th place = 7 points
10th place = 6 points
11th place = 5 points
12th place = 4 points
13th place = 3 points
14th place = 2 points
15th place = 1 point

I hope that makes more sense now.

Dirty
09-29-2009, 09:17 PM
Can someone explain to me what all the points mean? Like how do they figure votes into points? This is something that doesn't make much sense to me.

This guy is going to graduate soon. Be afraid. Be very afraid. :D

Biddco
09-29-2009, 09:19 PM
This guy is going to graduate soon. Be afraid. Be very afraid. :D
This is why I am a history guy. Math is not my thing. You should know too! :)

Dirty
09-29-2009, 09:22 PM
This is why I am a history guy. Math is not my thing. You should know too! :)

I have common sense though, Biddy. :D

Biddco
09-29-2009, 09:24 PM
I have common sense though, Biddy. :D

I have common sense too, just too lazy to push it further. :)

state of hockey
09-29-2009, 09:24 PM
I'll admit it, I didn't know either. Mostly because I never gave a crap to look it up or figure it out though.

Biddco
09-29-2009, 09:52 PM
I'll admit it, I didn't know either. Mostly because I never gave a crap to look it up or figure it out though.

Same boat here!

5mn_Major
09-29-2009, 11:35 PM
1st place = 15 points
2nd place = 14 points
3rd place = 13 points
4th place = 12 points
5th place = 11 points
6th place = 10 points
7th place = 9 points
8th place = 8 points
9th place = 7 points
10th place = 6 points
11th place = 5 points
12th place = 4 points
13th place = 3 points
14th place = 2 points
15th place = 1 point

I hope that makes more sense now.

Simple math...next April's national champion gets 15 points.