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FlagDUDE08
02-25-2010, 12:32 PM
I wouldn't mind taking the trip to St. Paul. Ft. Wayne just doesn't seem to me like it would be very nice for some reason. I would really love to go to Detroit though. Hockey Town, USA!

Easy, Sly. Gotta make it into the big dance first. You're not a shoe-in yet.

SlyFoxMan7
02-25-2010, 02:40 PM
True, it's still very much a long shot that I'll be flying anywhere this spring.

DavidSec17
02-25-2010, 03:18 PM
I wouldn't mind taking the trip to St. Paul. Ft. Wayne just doesn't seem to me like it would be very nice for some reason. I would really love to go to Detroit though. Hockey Town, USA!


I would say Union could be placed in Albany if they made the tourney(for travel and attendance purposes), but the presence of Cornell would mean 2 ECAC teams in Albany, and I'm not sure the NCAA would do that or not.

Ralph Baer
02-25-2010, 03:48 PM
I would say Union could be placed in Albany if they made the tourney(for travel and attendance purposes), but the presence of Cornell would mean 2 ECAC teams in Albany, and I'm not sure the NCAA would do that or not.

They could place two ECAC teams in the same region as long as they won't be facing each other in the first round.

BUPhD
02-25-2010, 03:50 PM
Fort Wayne Indiana: Strip Club Capital of the Midwest.

Har!

I'm not so sure about the prevalence of strip clubs in the Fort actually.

A trip to Ft. Wayne would be your sort of "midwest driving trip" sort of thing. You'd be going for the hockey as there really isn't much "touristy" to do other than the rather nice but awkwardly named Ft. Wayne Children's Zoo and the Old Fort. There's always Glenbrook Mall, but...ugh.

If the Tin Caps are playing by that time, it's a fun Single A Baseball experience in a nice new ball park downtown.

The Coliseum itself is a great hockey facility and the city has long had strong support for hockey thanks to the presence of the Komets.

It'd definitely not be a "big city/stuff to do" sort of thing but it's not a bad town.

Red Cloud
02-25-2010, 04:59 PM
I would say Union could be placed in Albany if they made the tourney(for travel and attendance purposes), but the presence of Cornell would mean 2 ECAC teams in Albany, and I'm not sure the NCAA would do that or not.

I've gone both ways on this one. On one hand, Union is a local team for a venue that traditionally the NCAA has had a very difficult time selling tickets at (not that this has stopped them from going back there every other year) and so regardless of how big of a draw they think they might be, they might put them there anyway.

Or, especially if Cornell is also in the tournament and bracketed in Albany, they might have zero compunction about sending Union wherever since there's no history of a solid following. That's, for instance, why St. Cloud still seems to get sent to the worst possible locations, they don't travel well.

Of course, like Wholin said, that's cart before the horse.

aweise
02-25-2010, 06:28 PM
Or, especially if Cornell is also in the tournament and bracketed in Albany, they might have zero compunction about sending Union wherever since there's no history of a solid following. That's, for instance, why St. Cloud still seems to get sent to the worst possible locations, they don't travel well.
Well, if Union makes it to the ECAC semis in Albany, it might give us some indication. Like UHM said, that's scheduled right at Union's break, so it's unlikely there would be much of a student contingent. However, most of the crowd I usually see at Messa is "non-student".

I wouldn't expect Union to bring as many fans as RPI, Cornell, or even Clarkson would, but there's still no history or sample to base that on. I hope we get a chance to find out. :cool:

aweise
02-27-2010, 09:01 AM
Perhaps my discussion of the PWR and where Union ranks was premature. Sorry for jinxing it. :(

I had a feeling it would be a tough go at it last night, but from Matt & Brian's broadcast, it sounded as if Union was slightly the better team 5x5, but just couldn't bury their chances. Scrivens probably wanted to impress Mr. Dryden. :D

One more game to go for the regular season - time to break the Starr curse. Now that the top 4 are set and SLU, RPI, & Q all have clinched a home ice series, I'll be very interested in the positioning of those three. Presuming everything holds to form in the first round, Union will be playing one of those three teams in the QFs.

vicb
02-27-2010, 09:05 AM
Toknight after the playoff positions have been set, remember to look for the ECAC PICK THE PLAYOFFS THREAD . The ECAC PICK THE STANDINGS 2009 CHAMPION will be crowned Sunday AM.

ADK11
02-27-2010, 10:53 AM
While I'm never happy with a loss, I can't fault the boys effort last night and their execution wasn't all that bad either. It was really just a very close hockey game and Cornell got great goaltending, played excellent defense & converted their opportunities. Thought U did very well to be tied after the 1st period, but the keys were not converting on the PP in the 2nd and on other golden opportunities in the 3rd. If U scored another goal, the complexion of the game would have been much different.. but in the end all kudos to the Big Red.

As aweise notes, any talk of PWR is essentially dead and U will have to win ECACs to make it to the dance. For confidence sake would be nice to get a win at Starr and go into the playoffs on a roll of sorts.

UnionHockeyManiac
02-27-2010, 02:34 PM
Very tough game last night. Starting with retiring the jerseys before the game, the Lynah Rink crowd was electric last night. I hated to sit there an watch us go down 1-0 so early in the game but was thrilled when we tied it up by the end of the first period. I guess I cheered a little too loud because the entire student section pointed and chanted at me from across the rink, "That guy sucks, that guy sucks, etc." I embraced it.

Anyway, it was really anybody's game. The bottom line is that Cornell capitalized on every opportunity they had while we had multiple chances when we should have put the puck in the net but did not. Prezzy had a breakaway that he could not score on, Zajac had a good look at the net, and there were two occurences where the puck was literally on Cornell's goal line but did not go in.

The 6+ hour round-trip drive was no fun but I'm glad I got to go to Lynah one more time before I graduated.

aweise
02-27-2010, 05:24 PM
As aweise notes, any talk of PWR is essentially dead and U will have to win ECACs to make it to the dance. For confidence sake would be nice to get a win at Starr and go into the playoffs on a roll of sorts.

I don't necessarily think it's dead, since you never know what can happen in other games to help Union's chances. Nevertheless, I'm rooting for Union to make it to Albany first and let the chips fall where they may. I'll keep an eye on the PWR with minimal expectations.

unionbob
02-28-2010, 12:21 AM
got back from starr ...sighs......team looked rather flat......so on to playoffs...they have two weeks to get it together and what worries me is we could possibly be facing RPI once more....and if.....if...we win series...and teams stay in order....Cornell.....the hockey gods are not loking down on us.....

thehockeymaven
02-28-2010, 01:05 AM
That was a pretty uninspiring game. Good thing we have a bye next week because The team looks like it really needs it. One trend that is becoming alarming are the number of breakaways we're giving up. It seems like this is happening 2 or 3 times every game.

vicb
02-28-2010, 07:13 AM
ECAC Hockey Fans, it is with great pleasure that I announce your ECAC Pick the Standings 2009-2010 winner: Saints17, a comfortable 16 points ahead of the runnerup jmhusker.

UnionHockeyManiac
02-28-2010, 04:46 PM
Since I'm bored and I should be writing a paper, I figured I'd write up all of the possible scenarios in round one:

Scenario Number One: (No upsets)
#5 St. Lawrence beats #12 Clarkson
#6 RPI beats #11 Brown
#7 Quinnipiac beats #10 Dartmouth
#8 Princeton beats #9 Harvard
Union would play RPI. Yale would play Princeton. Cornell would play Quinnipiac. Colgate would play St. Lawrence.

Scenario Number Two: (One upset)
#5 St. Lawrence beats #12 Clarkson
#6 RPI beats #11 Brown
#7 Quinnipiac beats #10 Dartmouth
#9 Harvard beats #8 Princeton
Union would play RPI. Yale would play Harvard. Cornell would play Quinnipiac. Colgate would play St. Lawrence.

Scenario Number Three: (One upset)
#5 St. Lawrence beats #12 Clarkson
#6 RPI beats #11 Brown
#10 Dartmouth beats #7 Quinnipiac
#8 Princeton beats #9 Harvard
Union would play RPI. Yale would play Dartmouth. Cornell would play Princeton. Colgate would play St. Lawrence.

Scenario Number Four: (One upset)
#5 St. Lawrence beats #12 Clarkson
#11 Brown beats #6 RPI
#7 Quinnipiac beats #10 Dartmouth
#8 Princeton beats #9 Harvard
Union would play Quinnipiac. Yale would play Brown. Cornell would play Princeton. Colgate would play St. Lawrence.

Scenario Number Five: (One upset)
#12 Clarkson beats #5 St. Lawrence
#6 RPI beats #11 Brown
#7 Quinnipiac beats #10 Dartmouth
#8 Princeton beats #9 Harvard
Union would play Quinnipiac. Yale would play Clarkson. Cornell would play Princeton. Colgate would play RPI.

Scenario Number Six: (Two upsets)
#5 St. Lawrence beats #12 Clarkson
#6 RPI beats #11 Brown
#10 Dartmouth beats #7 Quinnipiac
#9 Harvard beats #8 Princeton
Union would play RPI. Yale would play Dartmouth. Cornell would play Harvard. Colgate would play St. Lawrence.

Scenario Number Six: (Two upsets)
#5 St. Lawrence beats #12 Clarkson
#11 Brown beats #6 RPI
#7 Quinnipiac beats #10 Dartmouth
#9 Harvard beats #8 Princeton
Union would play Quinnipiac. Yale would play Brown. Cornell would play Harvard. Colgate would play St. Lawrence.

Scenario Number Seven: (Two upsets)
#12 Clarkson beats #5 St. Lawrence
#6 RPI beats #11 Brown
#7 Quinnipiac beats #10 Dartmouth
#9 Harvard beats #8 Princeton
Union would play Quinnipiac. Yale would play Clarkson. Cornell would play Harvard. Colgate would play RPI.

Scenario Number Eight: (Two upsets)
#5 St. Lawrence beats #12 Clarkson
#11 Brown beats #6 RPI
#10 Dartmouth beats #7 Quinnipiac
#8 Princeton beats #9 Harvard
Union would play Princeton. Yale would play Brown. Cornell would play Dartmouth. Colgate would play St. Lawrence.

Scenario Number Nine: (Two upsets)
#12 Clarkson beats #5 St. Lawrence
#6 RPI beats #11 Brown
#10 Dartmouth beats #7 Quinnipiac
#8 Princeton beats #9 Harvard
Union would play Princeton. Yale would play Clarkson. Cornell would play Dartmouth. Colgate would play RPI.

Scenario Number Ten: (Two upsets)
#12 Clarkson beats #5 St. Lawrence
#11 Brown beats #6 RPI
#7 Quinnipiac beats #10 Dartmouth
#8 Princeton beats #9 Harvard
Union would play Princeton. Yale would play Clarkson. Cornell would play Brown. Colgate would play Quinnipiac.

Scenario Number Eleven: (Three upsets)
#5 St. Lawrence beats #12 Clarkson
#11 Brown beats #6 RPI
#10 Dartmouth beats #7 Quinnipiac
#9 Harvard beats #8 Princeton
Union would play Harvard. Yale would play Brown. Cornell would play Dartmouth. Colgate would play St. Lawrence.

Scenario Number Twelve: (Three upsets)
#12 Clarkson beats #5 St. Lawrence
#6 RPI beats #11 Brown
#10 Dartmouth beats #7 Quinnipiac
#9 Harvard beats #8 Princeton
Union would play Harvard. Yale would play Clarkson. Cornell would play Dartmouth. Colgate would play RPI.

Scenario Number Thirteen: (Three upsets)
#12 Clarkson beats #5 St. Lawrence
#11 Brown beats #6 RPI
#7 Quinnipiac beats #10 Dartmouth
#9 Harvard beats #8 Princeton
Union would play Harvard. Yale would play Clarkson. Cornell would play Brown. Colgate would play Quinnipiac.

Scenario Number Fourteen: (Three upsets)
#12 Clarkson beats #5 St. Lawrence
#11 Brown beats #6 RPI
#10 Dartmouth beats #7 Quinnipiac
#8 Princeton beats #9 Harvard
Union would play Dartmouth. Yale would play Clarkson. Cornell would play Brown. Colgate would play Princeton.

Scenario Number Fifteen: (Four upsets)
#12 Clarkson beats #5 St. Lawrence
#11 Brown beats #6 RPI
#10 Dartmouth beats #7 Quinnipiac
#9 Harvard beats # 8 Princeton
Union would play Dartmouth. Yale would play Clarkson. Cornell would play Brown. Colgate would play Harvard.


To sum up:

It is most likely that Union will play RPI. It is second most likely that Union will play Quinnipiac. It is third most likely that Union will play Princeton. It is fourth most likely that Union will play Harvard. It is fifth most likely that Union will play Dartmouth.

Union cannot play Clarkson, Brown, or St. Lawrence.

If I missed anything (I probably did), please let me know and I will fix my post.

aweise
03-01-2010, 09:29 AM
Looks like that tuition is paying off, UHM. :cool:

This is the situation that I feared the most - more potential games vs RPI. Not that I don't have confidence that Union can win 2 out of 3, but 4 close games against them already this year (two of which went to OT) has put enough strain on my blood pressure. :eek: Even if they do play RPI in the QFs, at least we'll be guaranteed an Albany-area team in Albany.

That said, there are still 4 playoff series to be played and you never know what will happen. In order for Union not to play RPI, either they or SLU will have to lose their respective series. Considering Clarkson is SLU's opponent and RPI hasn't exactly had the easiest of times with Brown, I wouldn't yet take it to the bank that these upsets won't happen....this is the ECAC, after all.

ADK11
03-01-2010, 11:16 PM
I'd probably be more worried about Saturday's result if:
A) the game meant anything
B) I had any delusions that Union would win a game at Starr in my lifetime..

I don't think the break will hurt much and hopefully will allow Coburn time to get in shape to return. To me it doesn't matter who U meets next because it's going to be a war regardless. My preference would be to not see RPI because their proximity kinda minimizes the home ice advantage - I like the idea of the visiting team staying in a hotel out of their comfort zone - but I'm not sure I see Clarkson & Brown pulling upsets. And if U does get to Albany, there is no doubt they will have to go thru Cornell & Yale.. which is how it should be.

As for the "state of the team", they pretty much are what they looked to be back in October; a very good set of forwards, a d-corps that makes occasional mental mistakes and slightly above average goaltending. The occasional problems on D and in net have to do with younger, less experienced players at those positions. It would be nice to think that they will suddenly figure it all out in the next couple weeks, but reality is that likely won't happen. The good news to me is that most of the mistakes being made are mental and not players getting physically beat. This tells me that the skill level is there and that U will have a chance in pretty much any game it plays ..though Yale does scare me a bit. In the end, the offense is going to have to produce enough to give a U a chance to absorb an occasional defensive lapse.

Red Cloud
03-01-2010, 11:20 PM
Without a Peer has an update coming tomorrow that we think Union fans will appreciate. Stay tuned.

UnionHockeyManiac
03-02-2010, 12:24 AM
Without a Peer has an update coming tomorrow that we think Union fans will appreciate. Stay tuned.

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There has somehow been a mistake and we're actually #5 in the PWR? ;)