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MarkEagleUSA
10-31-2009, 03:08 PM
If anyone has any other informationYou have entirely too much time on your hands... :p

MarkEagleUSA
10-31-2009, 03:10 PM
you gotta really be pumped up by the sharing of pointsI have to believe that the freshmen are giving it their all which is causing the upperclassmen to pull their own weight as well. It's a great "problem" to have and hopefully they can keep up the intensity.

MarkEagleUSA
10-31-2009, 03:14 PM
What a great job of the bobcats staying focused and playing a full 60 minutes of hockey.They were a bit sluggish in the 2nd but really picked it up big time in the 3rd. Again, I really believe the freshmen are driving everyone to do their job. As long as there's no selfish play, I think things will go well for this team.



Keep focused on the game at handWithout a doubt, that's the key to the success of this team.

MarkEagleUSA
10-31-2009, 08:25 PM
Ugh...

Well, I guess you can't win them all. We were totally outplayed tonight. Clarke seemed to struggle a bit and put us in a hole; Hartzell tried to stop the bleeding but couldn't. They made a nice push late in the 3rd but couldn't sustain it.

Definitely need to work on the PP. If they could get a few PP goals, it might help their confidence.

Still, 4-1 isn't a bad way to start the season. Clarkson and SLU next weekend at the Bank. The ECAC wars are ready to begin.

allnightwong
11-01-2009, 08:18 AM
We were totally outplayed tonight.


When you outshoot a team by 30 shots it's hard to say we were outplayed. We had really really poor goaltending. RMU had outstanding goaltending. It may simply have come down to that. You put 63 shots on net you need to win that game. When the opposition puts 33 shots on and 7 are allowed in, that's where the fault lies.

That being said, I put the loss mainly on Clarke's shoulders. He set the tone for the game and handed the rest of the Bobcats the shovel to dig themselves out of the hole that he created. It's tough for any goalie to come into a situation like Hartzell had to but needless to say he didn't have his best stuff.

I think Clarke wrote his own epitaph and should be out of consideration for the gig. Cadieux was decent in his only start and Hartz has proven to be the most consistent in the short season.

Offensively again it was spread around. 5 goals from 5 different players. Great Freshman contributions. No problems here except for the PP which Mark mentioned.

Get your stuff together and use this loss as a wakeup call for next weekend when our North Country pals come a calling.

MarkEagleUSA
11-01-2009, 10:07 AM
When you outshoot a team by 30 shots it's hard to say we were outplayed. We had really really poor goaltending.By outplayed I meant that it sounded like RMU wanted it more. They took advantage of their opportunities while we squandered several (especially the PP). And, according to Rand in the post-game, we had some really bad defensive play out front.



RMU had outstanding goaltending.I don't want to hear the name Eric Levine for a while... :o



That being said, I put the loss mainly on Clarke's shoulders. He set the tone for the game and handed the rest of the Bobcats the shovel to dig themselves out of the hole that he created.Listening last night I couldn't help but think back to last years Yale game where Clarke put us in a big hole but we battled back to tie the game. Unfortunately, it seems Clarke runs hot and cold.



use this loss as a wakeup callAs painfull as last night was, they're still off to a really good start. I'm sure they'll be ready come Friday.

Quinn57
11-02-2009, 10:10 AM
As impressive as the Ohio State sweep was this game sort of takes the taste out of my mouth as far as good starts go. Along with solid freshman play and balanced scoring, spectacular goaltending was the main reason for excitement. Eight goals on 33 shots? Our top two goalies giving up 4 each on 11 and 14 shots? To a team that had trouble scoring goals before we came in? I agree Cadieux gets a game this weekend, hard to stick him behind either guy after that.

Not sure the PP is to blame. Scoring on 30% of your PP opportunities would rank No. 1 in the NHL right now.

Looking ahead to the weekend, I think we have to go in looking to win both games. Two conference games at home against beatable opponents. Even further we have Harvard and Dartmouth coming the week following. For this team to continue on the lofty ambitious some have bestowed upon them during the first few weeks, it'd be great to go 3-1 on this homestand and set ourselves up nicely for a tough road trip to Cornell/Colgate.

MarkEagleUSA
11-02-2009, 11:18 AM
Eight goals on 33 shots? Our top two goalies giving up 4 each on 11 and 14 shots?To be fair, there was an empty netter. So it would be 4/11 and 3/13.



Not sure the PP is to blame. Scoring on 30% of your PP opportunities would rank No. 1 in the NHL right now.I'm not saying it's to blame, just saying it needs work. Going into Saturdays game we only had 1 PPG. There were some key moments Saturday where a PPG would have swung the momentum which is a very big part of the game.



Looking ahead to the weekend, I think we have to go in looking to win both games. Two conference games at home against beatable opponents.Agreed.

NEWESTBOBCATFAN
11-02-2009, 11:57 AM
I can't agree that we hang this loss on the goalie(s). Both goalies were played and we got the same result. I was told from a friend I had at the game that Clarke let in one softy and same for Hartzel. This was more of a defensive breakdown. After winning game 1 easily, we thought Saturday would be the same. So both the offence and the defence concentrated on scoring goals and neglected their defensive duties. The result is, it was a team effort, you can not get scored on 7 times at this level unless the team is responsible.
So please don't hang out Clarke as of yet. Give the team a chance to pick up their duties and we will know by December who we need in net to win.

MarkEagleUSA
11-02-2009, 03:53 PM
neglected their defensive duties.That's pretty much what Rand said in the post-game.



The result is, it was a team effort, you can not get scored on 7 times at this level unless the team is responsible.Unfortunately, the goalies are part of the team. They need to steal one now and then (at least that's what I heard about Fisher for the last 2 years) and keep the team in it.

I'm sure the defensive breakdowns were the root cause for all the scoring on Saturday, but if a goalie makes just one of those saves, who knows how it turns out.

Anyway, it's still way too early for any of this to really matter. I'll take the 4-1 start and move on to this weekend. Clarkson and SLU are, I think anyway, better teams than everyone was led to believe. Obviously can't take anything for granted with either one of them, but I do think they're both beatable in our barn.

allnightwong
11-02-2009, 04:27 PM
So please don't hang out Clarke as of yet. Give the team a chance to pick up their duties and we will know by December who we need in net to win.

I'm not ready to hang Clarke based on his performance Saturday night alone. His mediocre performance Freshman year coupled with Saturday night is why I'm skeptical of him right now. We have seen him at his best, but his bad nights are so blatant and hard to ignore.

I'd like to see Cadieux and Hartz get the call this weekend just to see what they have. If they both fall flat on their face then we're back to square one. Give the Froshies a shot.

MarkEagleUSA
11-02-2009, 05:16 PM
We have seen him at his best, but his bad nights are so blatant and hard to ignore.When Clarke is good, he's usually great. When he's bad, well... It's almost as if you never know what type of game he's going to have.



I'd like to see Cadieux and Hartz get the call this weekend just to see what they have.I'm pretty sure we know what Hartzell has. Cadieux definitely needs more opportunity. Let's also remember that they've got a goalie coach this year so I'm sure any deficencies are being worked on hard during practice.

I think Rand showed Saturday that if the going gets tough, he's going to make a change. That's a luxury he hasn't really had for a few seasons.

FredDavenport
11-02-2009, 07:48 PM
On to Next weekend, looking forward to good crowds for the Clarkson and St. Lawrence games:

http://athleticsmedia.quinnipiac.edu/athletics/Podcasts/MensIceHockey/Clarkson-SLU-TV-Spot.mov?DB_OEM_ID=17500

MCL298
11-03-2009, 01:32 PM
[QUOTE=MarkEagleUSA;4440308]When Clarke is good, he's usually great. When he's bad, well... It's almost as if you never know what type of game he's going to have.



Is Clarke starting to remind anyone of Fisher in the sense of when he's on his game he's great but he's not always consistent?

allnightwong
11-03-2009, 01:38 PM
I can only think of two games where Clarke was truly great. AFA last year in the Uconn tourny and this year against the Buckeyes. He had a 19 save SO against Dartmouth last year but other than that he has not been very good. I know I'm being stubborn with this point, but I think we have two very talented Freshman that need to be seen. If they both fall flat on their faces then give Clarke another go, but for now, he falls to third on my depth chart.

MarkEagleUSA
11-03-2009, 04:18 PM
Is Clarke starting to remind anyone of Fisher in the sense of when he's on his game he's great but he's not always consistent?In my mind, not even close. Bud was not as hot & cold as Clarke has been IMHO. Clarke has all the tools to be good (perhaps even great) but I honestly think he has a confidence issue. He certainly seems to get rattled very easily.


I can only think of two games where Clarke was truly great. AFA last year in the Uconn tourny and this year against the Buckeyes.I can't think of any other games where Clarke stood out either. And in those 2 games he was phenominal. The game I remember Clarke most for is last year's Yale game where he got rocked.


I know I'm being stubborn with this point, but I think we have two very talented Freshman that need to be seen. If they both fall flat on their faces then give Clarke another go, but for now, he falls to third on my depth chart.You? Stubborn? Nah, I've never seen that trait in you!

We started the year with Hartzell followed by Clarke at OSU. Cadieux got the Bentley game. Then we saw Hartzell followed by Clarke at RMU. That would indicate to me that we'll see Cadieux Friday against Clarkson and Hartzell Saturday against SLU. I honestly don't see Clarke getting a start this weekend. I guess we'll have to wait until the Harvard game on the 13th to see if Rand shakes up the rotation.

Quinn57
11-04-2009, 08:22 AM
We started the year with Hartzell followed by Clarke at OSU. Cadieux got the Bentley game. Then we saw Hartzell followed by Clarke at RMU. That would indicate to me that we'll see Cadieux Friday against Clarkson and Hartzell Saturday against SLU. I honestly don't see Clarke getting a start this weekend. I guess we'll have to wait until the Harvard game on the 13th to see if Rand shakes up the rotation.

Think this is spot on.

MinniQUFan
11-04-2009, 08:50 AM
[/QUOTE]Is Clarke starting to remind anyone of Fisher in the sense of when he's on his game he's great but he's not always consistent?[/QUOTE]

I couldn't resist one last (I promise) shot at Bud... but I thought Fisher was playing that game after I saw the score.

Kitten at QU
11-04-2009, 04:12 PM
We started the year with Hartzell followed by Clarke at OSU. Cadieux got the Bentley game. Then we saw Hartzell followed by Clarke at RMU. That would indicate to me that we'll see Cadieux Friday against Clarkson and Hartzell Saturday against SLU. I honestly don't see Clarke getting a start this weekend. I guess we'll have to wait until the Harvard game on the 13th to see if Rand shakes up the rotation.


With the way the college season shapes up we really don't need a three goalie rotation. There's very few, if any, weeks where we have more than two games. I like the Cadieux-Hartzell rotation, then you have Clarke on the side if someone goes down or bites it or you just need to switch it up.

Cadieux looked pretty good against Bentley for the most part. The idea of Clarke being the starter against a larger, stronger, faster Harvard team frightens me.

MarkEagleUSA
11-04-2009, 05:15 PM
I couldn't resist one last (I promise) shot at Bud...There'll be more I'm sure. :rolleyes:


but I thought Fisher was playing that game after I saw the score.I kinda expected to hear that from you! :p