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lord k
11-16-2009, 11:18 PM
Well i hope Genoway is going to be alright. Concusions can be nasty drawn out affairs and you can't do much in the form of rehab. He is a huge loss and he is tough as nails so you know he must be hurt pretty bad.

This team has a lot of depth though and they can find ways to win even without the best player in college hockey. The wins just may not be as dynamic. They may have to grind it out for a couple of weeks.

MinnesotaNorthStar
11-16-2009, 11:25 PM
Well i hope Genoway is going to be alright. Concusions can be nasty drawn out affairs and you can't do much in the form of rehab. He is a huge loss and he is tough as nails so you know he must be hurt pretty bad.
Agree. Plus, concussions (and other head injuries) you never want to take lightly. Coming back from one too early can be extremely dangerous. Hopefully he doesn't come back before he's ready, and hopefully that's soon.

brianvf
11-17-2009, 10:53 AM
Illegal Hits:

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/141247/

SIOUX4EVER
11-17-2009, 11:51 AM
Genoway suffered a concussion and a bruised sternum from friday nights cheap shot.My source says he is still woozy from it and it's hard to say when he will return.Pray for the best Sioux fans.

F.:mad: Sucks to lose him, but obviously his health is priority #1.

:( Get well soon.:(

brianvf
11-17-2009, 03:07 PM
From the Sioux blog:


The NHL's Central Scouting Bureau ranked the top draft-eligible USHL players today and UND recruit Derek Forbort heads the list. Forbort, a defenseman, is expected to come to UND next fall. Nick Mattson and Mike Parks also were ranked.

Here are the top 20 in the rankings:

1. Derek Forbort, D, NTDP, UND recruit
2. Jaden Schwartz, F, Tri City, CC recruit
3. Stephen Johns, D, NTDP, Notre Dame recruit
4. Justin Faulk, D, NTDP, Minnesota-Duluth recruit
5. Jarred Tinordi, D, NTDP, Notre Dame recruit
6. Kevin Gravel, D, Sioux City, St. Cloud State recruit
7. Jon Merrill, D, NTDP, Michigan recruit
8. Connor Brickley, F, Des Moines, Vermont recruit
9. Kevin Lind, D, Chicago, Notre Dame recruit
10. Billy Arnold, F, NTDP, Boston College recruit
11. Nick Mattson, D, NTDP, UND recruit
12. Mike Parks, F, Cedar Rapids, UND recruit
13. Luke Moffatt, F, NTDP, Michigan recruit
14. Brendan Woods, F, Chicago, uncommitted
15. Ryan Daugherty, F, Omaha, Northern Michigan recruit
16. Bryan Rust, F, NTDP, Notre Dame recruit
17. Yasin Cisse, F, Des Moines, BU recruit
18. Jason Zucker, F, NTDP, Denver recruit
19. Eamonn McDermott, D, Fargo, CC recruit
20. Nick Sorkin, F, Waterloo, New Hampshire recruit

UND with 3 of the top 20 including the top ranked Forbort. Not too shabby.
Notre Dame has 4 players in the top 20 as well.

bsubuffs33
11-17-2009, 06:00 PM
Looking forward to coming over from Bemidji in 11 days for the Subway Holiday classic for saturdays games. The Sioux vs. Miami should be a great game and am hoping for both Beaver and Sioux wins. Just cant decide which Sioux hat to wear with my Beaver jersey.... Your basic Green Sioux hat with logo or white 7 time National champions hat. Any suggestions? I am leaning towards the 7 time Champs hat as you never know when the hat will be out of date with 8.

ecbrevik
11-17-2009, 06:20 PM
Illegal Hits:

http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/141247/


“It still happens and it’s a mystery to me,” WCHA commissioner Bruce McLeod said of the hits from behind. “We’ve beefed up that rule and our officials know to always error on the side of safety. They are doing the best they possibly can. It wasn’t the officials’ fault that Marvin hit Genoway. We’re trying to emphasize that there’s no tolerance for it, but it hasn’t stop it from happening.”
If they really want to crack down on this, make the penalty really meaningful. If you hurt someone during an illegal hit, you should have to sit for as long as they are injured and unable to play. That might make someone really think twice about taking a cheap shot.

jdr1
11-17-2009, 08:04 PM
If they really want to crack down on this, make the penalty really meaningful. If you hurt someone during an illegal hit, you should have to sit for as long as they are injured and unable to play. That might make someone really think twice about taking a cheap shot.

sounds good if they can get it right!!!

these terrible refs cant make the right call period. just like when it is a real checking form behind and they some times call it a boarding.. they are screwing up so many times, it just sucks to watch..

Like sat night at the SCSU/UND game even the linesmen could even drop the puck decent, I have never seen so many ejections from the face off dot in my life... that really slows the pace of the game down :mad:

another thing that make me mad about refs, when team A has just had a 5on3 advantage or 2 power plays in a row you can bet your bottom dollar that team A is getting thrown in the box next on a very weak call... and then come 5-7 min left in a close game of 2 to 1 or 4 to 3 you can bet another call will not come no matter how bad.. its so frustrating:mad:

dxmnkd316
11-17-2009, 08:29 PM
Looking forward to coming over from Bemidji in 11 days for the Subway Holiday classic for saturdays games. The Sioux vs. Miami should be a great game and am hoping for both Beaver and Sioux wins. Just cant decide which Sioux hat to wear with my Beaver jersey.... Your basic Green Sioux hat with logo or white 7 time National champions hat. Any suggestions? I am leaning towards the 7 time Champs hat as you never know when the hat will be out of date with 8.

Watch out... this guy's a bigger homer than I am. ;)

Sloe Gin
11-18-2009, 10:35 AM
UND with 3 of the top 20 including the top ranked Forbort. Not too shabby.
Notre Dame has 4 players in the top 20 as well.

and with a couple CC players on the list, that number could increase! ;)

SJHovey
11-18-2009, 11:03 AM
From the Sioux blog:



UND with 3 of the top 20 including the top ranked Forbort. Not too shabby.
Notre Dame has 4 players in the top 20 as well.

3 in the top 12. :)

brianvf
11-18-2009, 05:13 PM
At today's weekly press conference, UND coach Dave Hakstol said there was no new information on the status of Chay Genoway.

Hakstol said that he can only re-report what he did on Saturday: Genoway is out indefinitely. There is no timetable for a possible return yet. That's all that UND is going to say about the injury for now.

http://www.areavoices.com/undhockey/?blog=64358

Siouxfaninseattle
11-19-2009, 11:04 AM
From today's GF Herald:


MINOT - It appears increasingly unlikely that UND's Fighting Sioux nickname will appear on any referendum on the Standing Rock reservation anytime in the immediate future.

North Dakota University System Chancellor Bill Goetz, who visited with Standing Rock Tribal Chairman Charles W. Murphy, talked about that visit with the State Board of Higher Education this morning.

He said the chairman reiterated that the issue is not high on his agenda and that it is a "very, very divisive" issue both on the Tribal Council and on the reservation at large. The chairman, Goetz said, is concerned about this and about the impact on American Indian students at UND and throughout the university system.

Goetz said the chairman noted that he was not at liberty to push for a tribal referendum because that's a matter for the Tribal Council and, to date, the council has not discussed the issue. A moratorium on such referendums, passed by a previous council, remains in force, Goetz said.

This reflects the tone of an earlier letter from Murphy to the chancellor in which he indicated the nickname was not a priority for his administration.

Under the settlement between the state and the NCAA, which considers American Indian nicknames offensive, UND has

until Nov. 30, 2010, to win the support of the state's two Sioux tribes. The Spirit Lake Dakotah Nation has approved the nickname following an overwhelming referendum.

The state board favors moving the deadline ahead so that UND can apply to the Summit League athletic conference, which has said it would not consider any application until the nickname issue is resolved.

In the meantime, a lawsuit by nickname supporters there are attempting to prevent the state board from moving the deadline. The attorney general will brief the board in a closed session this afternoon on the lawsuit.

brianvf
11-19-2009, 11:14 AM
No Genoway at DU.
But reading Brad's update, it sounds like the decision was just made after the Wed practice session. If Genoway is already practicing, that is a very good sign, and hopefully he will be back for next weekend's big games against Miami and OSU.

Puck Swami
11-19-2009, 12:43 PM
If they really want to crack down on this, make the penalty really meaningful. If you hurt someone during an illegal hit, you should have to sit for as long as they are injured and unable to play. That might make someone really think twice about taking a cheap shot.

Good Hammurabic (an eye for an eye) idea in theory, but might be a nightmare in practice to enforce, depending on who hits whom...

For example, let's say you have an all-league UND player who takes a cheap shot at another opposing player who is not a very regular player on his team, and might have only played a game or two in a season anyway. The irregular player might have not played the next 20 games or more before his injury, but now, by keeping the irregular player out of the lineup under the guise of injury, the opponent now controls when your all-league player sees the ice again, perhaps knocking your all league player out for the whole year. Not saying it would happen, but when you make punishments contingent on the re-apperance of opposing players, you would be opening the door to that kind of thing being possible. That's probably why other leagues have not adopted this idea....

cross cheque
11-19-2009, 12:58 PM
Good Hammurabic (an eye for an eye) idea in theory, but might be a nightmare in practice to enforce, depending on who hits whom...

For example, let's say you have an all-league UND player who takes a cheap shot at another opposing player who is not a very regular player on his team, and might have only played a game or two in a season anyway. The irregular player might have not played the next 20 games or more before his injury, but now, by keeping the irregular player out of the lineup under the guise of injury, the opponent now controls when your all-league player sees the ice again, perhaps knocking your all league player out for the whole year. Not saying it would happen, but when you make punishments contingent on the re-apperance of opposing players, you would be opening the door to that kind of thing being possible. That's probably why other leagues have not adopted this idea....
....and out of the darkness that is fan forum a hero arose, with common sense and logic for all to read.

ecbrevik
11-19-2009, 03:51 PM
....and out of the darkness that is fan forum a hero arose, with common sense and logic for all to read.

Common sense and logic is a Puck Swami strong point.

Puck Swami
11-19-2009, 04:41 PM
Common sense and logic is a Puck Swami strong point.


Thanks, Erik. I've admired your posts here for years, and I appreciate the kind words.

While we may cheer different teams, the one thing I've always admired about most of the UND fans on this board is that their intense passion for their program is usually backed up with knowledgable insights about college hockey.

Dirty
11-19-2009, 04:51 PM
While we may cheer different teams, the one thing I've always admired about most of the UND fans on this board is that their intense passion for their program is usually backed up with knowledgable insights about college hockey.

And then there's me.

goldy_331
11-19-2009, 04:57 PM
And then there's me.

Don't worry, you're not alone. There's SCSF and SIM, and numerous others. :p

Happy Birthday, BTW.