Re: 2009-2010 UNH Wildcats Season
Im not saying you dont have some good points, however I think alot of them are uninformed. UNH and BU certainly compete for players. Sean Collins and Eddie Caron are two players that jump right out at me off the top of my head. Some that went the other way, Pete MacArthur, Boomer Ewing, Chris Bourque, and Bonnino. Those are just off the top of my head, they compete a ton, except its not a really a competition right now.
On to the "BC Pipeline" you talk about. UNH did not stop recruiting out there, what happened was NoDak and Denver most noteably upgraded facilities and really put themselves on the map and out recruited UNH up in BC. If you ask Scott Borek, his favorite place to recruit is in fact BC. In his first year he went to BC for Brett Hemingway, Josh Ciocco, Craig Switzer- all of which were top performer in that league. In the year after those guys, they still went up there, but they lost out, some names that come to mind are jonathan sigalet, kyle ostrow, matt frattin, riley nash, weiricoch, darcy zajac, evan trupp-again off the top of my head. Of those 7 I just mentioned, 5 went DU and NODAK. Also, another problem with the BC league, it is not as good as to used to be in the colin hemingway, lanny gare, and even the B hemingway/ciocco years. Something that has happened, which I am sure you are aware of, the USHL has absorbed alot more talent. The best players from BC are finding their way down to the USHL, case in point, Sahir Gill. They HAVE to spend the majority of their time in the USHL as opposed to the BCHL because their are better players in the USHL. And the best players out in BC are likely to stay closer to home with DU, NoDak, and Wisco- though they have had some success recently, but lets see how those guys all turn out before we deem the best class to come to UNH-how would legglia, downing, and Reid be doing in the USHL- my guess is not nearly as good.
Also, the 97-03 run you are referring to, it wasnt due to a BC pipeline, well Krog had a big part I must say, but it had just as much to do with an Ontario pipeline. If you should be complaining about any area UNH has lost touch with, its Ontario. However, this is not a problem that UNH is alone with. Everyone has had a hard time with ontario due to the OHL. However that is where UNH had the location advantage on the DU's and NOdak's. The problem is UNH isnt competing with other schools for the ontario kids, they go head to head with OHL.
As far as the PP goes, I do not know how you can blame coaches, that is funny to me. I know many NHL teams and college teams that only practice PP breakouts and then let the players play in zone. It happens, trust me. Good players make good PP's. Do you think Mcloskey was a genious with his PP set up and that other coaches couldnt figure it out? Or was it because Haydar and Krog were two of the best PP players there are? And the PP hasnt been stale since Borek, please look at the past. UNH has had great PP success with guys like Collins, Saviano, Callander, Aikens, yandle, micflikier, Winnik, and Smith, and Radja. UNH's PP has been really good, one of the best in the country probably until last year. And btw, Umile calls the shots, not mcloskey or borek. do you think haydar used a different set up then they do now? no, he was just alot better then bobby bulter and block.
UNH is in the hunt for the right players, if you read on websites like the ushr, when players committ to other schools it says who else they were considering, and UNH is in the mix. Like I said, there needs to be upgrades-you want a national championship? then you have to compete with NoDak, Wisco, BU, BC, DU, etc. ALL have better facilities, this was not case in 98-03.
And one final comment to watcher, Kolomatis was not one of UNH's best talents, give me a break. He was a good recruit, but there are alot of others they have had that id rather have, Blake Kessel for one. He was undrafted in his first couple year and LA picked him up in the 7th round last year? hardly a great recruit
Originally posted by JB
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On to the "BC Pipeline" you talk about. UNH did not stop recruiting out there, what happened was NoDak and Denver most noteably upgraded facilities and really put themselves on the map and out recruited UNH up in BC. If you ask Scott Borek, his favorite place to recruit is in fact BC. In his first year he went to BC for Brett Hemingway, Josh Ciocco, Craig Switzer- all of which were top performer in that league. In the year after those guys, they still went up there, but they lost out, some names that come to mind are jonathan sigalet, kyle ostrow, matt frattin, riley nash, weiricoch, darcy zajac, evan trupp-again off the top of my head. Of those 7 I just mentioned, 5 went DU and NODAK. Also, another problem with the BC league, it is not as good as to used to be in the colin hemingway, lanny gare, and even the B hemingway/ciocco years. Something that has happened, which I am sure you are aware of, the USHL has absorbed alot more talent. The best players from BC are finding their way down to the USHL, case in point, Sahir Gill. They HAVE to spend the majority of their time in the USHL as opposed to the BCHL because their are better players in the USHL. And the best players out in BC are likely to stay closer to home with DU, NoDak, and Wisco- though they have had some success recently, but lets see how those guys all turn out before we deem the best class to come to UNH-how would legglia, downing, and Reid be doing in the USHL- my guess is not nearly as good.
Also, the 97-03 run you are referring to, it wasnt due to a BC pipeline, well Krog had a big part I must say, but it had just as much to do with an Ontario pipeline. If you should be complaining about any area UNH has lost touch with, its Ontario. However, this is not a problem that UNH is alone with. Everyone has had a hard time with ontario due to the OHL. However that is where UNH had the location advantage on the DU's and NOdak's. The problem is UNH isnt competing with other schools for the ontario kids, they go head to head with OHL.
As far as the PP goes, I do not know how you can blame coaches, that is funny to me. I know many NHL teams and college teams that only practice PP breakouts and then let the players play in zone. It happens, trust me. Good players make good PP's. Do you think Mcloskey was a genious with his PP set up and that other coaches couldnt figure it out? Or was it because Haydar and Krog were two of the best PP players there are? And the PP hasnt been stale since Borek, please look at the past. UNH has had great PP success with guys like Collins, Saviano, Callander, Aikens, yandle, micflikier, Winnik, and Smith, and Radja. UNH's PP has been really good, one of the best in the country probably until last year. And btw, Umile calls the shots, not mcloskey or borek. do you think haydar used a different set up then they do now? no, he was just alot better then bobby bulter and block.
UNH is in the hunt for the right players, if you read on websites like the ushr, when players committ to other schools it says who else they were considering, and UNH is in the mix. Like I said, there needs to be upgrades-you want a national championship? then you have to compete with NoDak, Wisco, BU, BC, DU, etc. ALL have better facilities, this was not case in 98-03.
And one final comment to watcher, Kolomatis was not one of UNH's best talents, give me a break. He was a good recruit, but there are alot of others they have had that id rather have, Blake Kessel for one. He was undrafted in his first couple year and LA picked him up in the 7th round last year? hardly a great recruit
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