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MadameKai
09-22-2009, 10:17 PM
1. Cornell
2. Yale
3. Princeton
4. Quinnipiac
5. Dartmouth
6. RPI
7. Harvard
8. Colgate
9. Union
10. SLU
11. Clarkson
12. Brown

:p

kdiff77
09-23-2009, 05:50 AM
Wholin1 and GRussinko, I didn't mean everyone should be picking Union in their top 4. But they are averaging an 11th-place pick right now, something that strikes me as odd for a team who has been looking better in recent years, even if the standings at the end of the season don't particularly reflect it, and for a team who made it to the second round last year. Now, Brown also made it to the second round, but I don't expect anyone (including myself and other Brown fans) to respect them very much, because frankly they don't deserve it. But Union does deserve some respect, and I'm a little puzzled as to why I'm not finding it. I think they have a decent shot to finish anywhere from 4th-11th this year, as the ECAC is pretty tight this year.

Ralph Baer
09-23-2009, 06:03 AM
Wholin1 and GRussinko, I didn't mean everyone should be picking Union in their top 4. But they are averaging an 11th-place pick right now, something that strikes me as odd for a team who has been looking better in recent years, even if the standings at the end of the season don't particularly reflect it, and for a team who made it to the second round last year. Now, Brown also made it to the second round, but I don't expect anyone (including myself and other Brown fans) to respect them very much, because frankly they don't deserve it. But Union does deserve some respect, and I'm a little puzzled as to why I'm not finding it. I think they have a decent shot to finish anywhere from 4th-11th this year, as the ECAC is pretty tight this year.

FWIW, a least-square fit to the data posted by GRussinko in post 42 of this thread shows that on average, Union has been improving by about 0.29 places in the standings per year over the time period shown.

Wholin1
09-23-2009, 08:50 AM
Interesting to see Union getting some discussion even if it's only about how they may not really be as bad as the consensus on this thread :( . I am guessing however that the media and coaches' polls probably won't have them picked much higher than 8th or 9th either. I think RB has a point, as much as it may hurt to say so, as Union's overall progress has been painfully incremental, but at least they have been heading in the right direction.

vicb
09-23-2009, 06:13 PM
The evening stats with 33 contestants:
<pre>
Avg High Low Std Dev
1 Corn 2.12 1.00 4.00 1.02
2 Yale 2.33 1.00 9.00 1.95
3 Prin 3.52 1.00 9.00 1.94
4 Harv 4.27 2.00 7.00 1.28
5 Quinn 6.94 4.00 11.00 1.82
6 RPI 6.94 2.00 12.00 2.56
7 Dart 7.15 3.00 11.00 2.15
8 Clark 7.67 1.00 12.00 3.22
9 SLU 8.27 1.00 11.00 2.55
10 Colg 8.45 3.00 12.00 2.56
11 Union 8.61 1.00 12.00 2.19
12 Brown 11.73 10.00 12.00 0.57
</pre>

vicb
09-24-2009, 04:08 AM
Early Mornin Bump.

Saints#1
09-24-2009, 08:48 AM
1. Cornell
2. Yale
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. SLU
6. RPI
7. Colgate
8. Quinnipiac
9. Clarkson
10. Union
11. Dartmouth
12. Brown

Wicked Slappaahs
09-24-2009, 01:58 PM
BTW Union DID win a playoff series last season and did so in convincing fashion (sorry for the reminder Vic).. I know we don't get much credit, but at least give us that! I would also call two straight quarterfinal appearances good progress for a program that struggled to win 10 games in a season for most of the first 15 years in D-1. ..of course, this and $50 will get you a couple nice seats at the TUC to watch the ECAC finals. Until the Dutch make it to Albany with their skates on, respect will be lacking.

As for this season, U has a lot of firepower returning up front, but has major question marks on defense and in goal (the one area where Leaman has NOT had good recruiting success). If the ??s are answered U will be pretty good and could be a major surprise. If not they could be battling Brom for 12th.
Agree - Lehman's recruiting has flown under the radar..he is getting it done without many of the resources of other schools. Losing Vazzano was a tough blow for the squad.

number 16
09-24-2009, 04:12 PM
1) Yale
2) Princeton
3) Harvard
4) SLU
5) cornell
6) RPI
7) Dartmouth
8) Q-pac
9) Clarkson
10)Colgate
11)Brown
12)Union

GO SAINTS!

Hopkinja
09-24-2009, 05:10 PM
1. Princeton
2. Cornell
3. Yale
4. Harvard
5. Dartmouth
6. Quinnipiac
7. RPI
8. SLU
9. Clarkson
10. Union
11. Colgate
12. Brown

vicb
09-24-2009, 06:36 PM
The evening stats with 36 contestants:
<pre>
Avg High Low Std Dev
1 Corn 2.17 1.00 5.00 1.11
2 Yale 2.31 1.00 9.00 1.88
3 Prin 3.39 1.00 9.00 1.92
4 Harv 4.22 2.00 7.00 1.24
5 RPI 6.89 2.00 12.00 2.46
6 Quinn 6.97 4.00 11.00 1.76
7 Dart 7.19 3.00 11.00 2.19
8 Clark 7.78 1.00 12.00 3.10
9 SLU 8.06 1.00 11.00 2.60
10 Colg 8.53 3.00 12.00 2.51
11 Union 8.78 1.00 12.00 2.19
12 Brown 11.72 10.00 12.00 0.57
</pre>

QUBobcats70
09-24-2009, 08:06 PM
1. Yale
2. Cornell
3. Princeton
4. Harvard
5. RPI
6. Quinnipiac
7. Clarkson
8. Dartmouth
9. SLU
10. Colgate
11. Union
12. Brown

hockeyenthusiast
09-24-2009, 10:34 PM
1. Cornell
2. Yale
3. Colgate
4. Princeton
5. Harvard
6. Dartmouth
7. SLU
8. Union
9. Quinnipiac
10. RPI
11. Clarkson
12. Brown

There might be some changes later on.... GO 'GATE!

fr joe
09-24-2009, 11:19 PM
1 Yale
2 Princeton
3 Cornell
4 Harvard
5 RPI
6 Colgate
7 Dartmouth
8 Quinnipiac
9 Union
10 Clarkson
11 St Lawrence
12 Brown

Has the ice set up yet? Let's drop some pucks and go!

Vic: Glad to hear you're on the mend!

jmhusker
09-25-2009, 03:53 PM
Since I'll revise this eventually this is pointless but since there is no harm...

1. Yale (got a tip from some guy who works in a lab there)
2. Cornell (it bores me just to type this)
3. RPI (I'll feel better about this if we knock off UMASS or UNH)
4. Union (painting a pretty picture for the dutch boys on the thread)
5. Harvard (Lots of talent, not sold on coach)
6. SLU (coming up I think)
7. PU (a dumb reason but.. can't see them being good 3 years in a row)
8. Quinnipiac (dropping in the polls)
9. Clarkson (this is what happens when recruits can't count past 16)
10. Colgate (not ready to Crest)
11. DC (reeling from that 1st round loss)
12. da Bears (if the new coach has a few friends he can double attendance!)

vicb
09-25-2009, 05:26 PM
The evening stats with 40 contestants:
<pre>
Avg High Low Std Dev
1 Corn 2.15 1.00 5.00 1.08
2 Yale 2.20 1.00 9.00 1.81
3 Prin 3.45 1.00 9.00 1.92
4 Harv 4.25 2.00 7.00 1.19
5 RPI 6.78 2.00 12.00 2.50
6 Quinn 7.05 4.00 11.00 1.72
7 Dart 7.28 3.00 11.00 2.17
8 Clark 7.93 1.00 12.00 3.01
9 SLU 8.08 1.00 11.00 2.54
10 Colg 8.40 3.00 12.00 2.59
11 Union 8.70 1.00 12.00 2.24
12 Brown 11.75 10.00 12.00 0.54
</pre>

vicb
09-26-2009, 07:06 AM
The morning bump.

Union93
09-26-2009, 10:16 AM
1 Yale
2 Harvard
3 Cornell
4 Dartmouth
5 Princeton
6 RPI
7 Union
8 Gate
9 Quinny
10 SLU
11 Clarkson
12 Brown

vicb
09-26-2009, 05:48 PM
With 41 contestants including the defending champ the stats are:
<pre>
Avg High Low Std Dev
1 Corn 2.17 1.00 5.00 1.07
2 Yale 2.17 1.00 9.00 1.80
3 Prin 3.49 1.00 9.00 1.91
4 Harv 4.20 2.00 7.00 1.23
5 RPI 6.76 2.00 12.00 2.47
6 Quinn 7.10 4.00 11.00 1.73
7 Dart 7.20 3.00 11.00 2.20
8 Clark 8.00 1.00 12.00 3.01
9 SLU 8.12 1.00 11.00 2.52
10 Colg 8.39 3.00 12.00 2.56
11 Union 8.66 1.00 12.00 2.23
12 Brown 11.76 10.00 12.00 0.54
</pre>

vicb
09-27-2009, 06:31 AM
The morning bump.