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Slap Shot
09-18-2009, 11:14 PM
Yep...
Kangas 36 games 17-11-6 2.79 GAA SV % .901
Eidsness 41 games 24-12-4 2.56 GAA SV % .906

Quite marginal difference considering the defense in front of either last season, but you get on with your Halo self.

Dirty
09-18-2009, 11:17 PM
Quite marginal difference considering the defense in front of either last season, but you get on with your Halo self.

I didn't realize Eidsness had Orr and Borque in front of him while Kangas had a couple of paraplegic midgets.

4four4
09-19-2009, 12:35 AM
If I am not mistaken Eidsness finished right behind Chevy from DU for top tender in the WCHA. I am willing to bet that Eidsness will have better numbers Kangas by the end of the year. I am game.

If Kangas puts up his Freshman numbers I am willing to bet the Gophers win the WCHA if not a top 6 finish.

Slap Shot
09-19-2009, 12:41 AM
I didn't realize Eidsness had Orr and Borque in front of him while Kangas had a couple of paraplegic midgets.

Your own set is convinced the Gophers D was worthless last season and I'm pretty dang sure you're smart enough to have picked that up.

Dirty
09-19-2009, 12:47 AM
So now the Halos speak the Gospel. I see.

MinnesotaNorthStar
09-19-2009, 12:52 AM
Your own set is convinced the Gophers D was worthless last season and I'm pretty dang sure you're smart enough to have picked that up.You saw who you quoted right? You should know how his mind works by now...:D

HarleyMC
09-19-2009, 02:39 AM
Yep...
Kangas 36 games 17-11-6 2.79 GAA SV % .901
Eidsness 41 games 24-12-4 2.56 GAA SV % .906

Eidsness > Kangas

Another brilliant synopsis from Goonville.:rolleyes: So your argument is head to head on SV%, Eidsness is far superior to Kangas by .005?:eek::D And you're serious? Just to show you how ridiculous your argument is, the difference in SV% is a colossal 5 saves. Add to that the fact that Eidsness played 5 more games and it's clear to me that, even with the down season, Kangas is the better goalie.

No one expected the numbers to be down for both Kangas and Bachman last season. But that is often the case with collegiate goalies following a good year (i.e. JPL :p ). Of course, if you compare the Kangas and Eidsness freshman numbers there's very little doubt who the better goalie is. I suspect the numbers for Eidsness will also be down this season. We shall soon see, my friend.....;)

Alex Kangas Fr, 31 Gm, 12-10-9, 1.9830 GAA, SV% .930


If Kangas puts up his Freshman numbers I am willing to bet the Gophers win the WCHA if not a top 6 finish.

Can you narrow that down for us a bit?;)

state of hockey
09-19-2009, 04:19 AM
So the Gopher defense absolutely blows, until we start talking about the goaltenders. Got it.

ScoobyDoo
09-19-2009, 08:56 AM
So the Gopher defense absolutely blows, until we start talking about the goaltenders. Got it.

Right. Makes sense don't it?

brianvf
09-19-2009, 11:14 AM
Add to that the fact that Eidsness played 5 more games and it's clear to me that, even with the down season, Kangas is the better goalie.

At least Goon had numbers to back up his claim, you just have your opinion. ;)

So, I'll give my opinion. Who's the better goalie? After watching just one season from Eidsness and two from Kangas, I would give the slight nod to Kangas at this point. Kangas had a dominant freshman season and then I think his confidence and "swagger" really took a hit last year, and that can be a killer for a goalie, where so much is mental. Eidsness did great for us last year as a young freshman goalie, but did tend to wander at inopportune times and had issues with rebounds. I didn't expect anything more from him though, he gave us a chance to win each night and that's all I wanted of him, especially with his age. Kangas, on the other hand, had unrealistic expectations placed on his shoulders (remember last year at this time when some fans were saying that his numbers would improve from his freshman year?), and I think the pressure got to him as the season went along. I'm excited to see how both will do this year. Eidsness with another year of experience under his belt...and then seeing which Kangas shows up. If I had to guess, I would think Kangas' numbers for this year will fall somewhere in the middle of his frosh/soph seasons.


I suspect the numbers for Eidsness will also be down this season.

I would take this bet though. It's not like his numbers were outstanding last year, he just got the job done on most occasions. I would imagine his GAA stays similar to the 2.56 from last year, but the save % will go up from .906 IMO.

:)

Slap Shot
09-19-2009, 11:27 AM
So the Gopher defense absolutely blows, until we start talking about the goaltenders. Got it.

Considering the source that's the usual logic.

Happy
09-19-2009, 05:33 PM
Goon's World (http://mvn.com/goonsworld/2009/09/gandalf-the-red-hammers-college-hockey-news-poll.html)

New recruits are NOT seasoned veterans. That's deep.:D

Ah, but in goons world, und's unproven freshmen will propel them to number 4, but on every other team freshmen are a complete liability.

Happy
09-19-2009, 05:34 PM
At least Goon had numbers to back up his claim, you just have your opinion. ;)

So, I'll give my opinion. Who's the better goalie? After watching just one season from Eidsness and two from Kangas, I would give the slight nod to Kangas at this point. Kangas had a dominant freshman season and then I think his confidence and "swagger" really took a hit last year, and that can be a killer for a goalie, where so much is mental. Eidsness did great for us last year as a young freshman goalie, but did tend to wander at inopportune times and had issues with rebounds. I didn't expect anything more from him though, he gave us a chance to win each night and that's all I wanted of him, especially with his age. Kangas, on the other hand, had unrealistic expectations placed on his shoulders (remember last year at this time when some fans were saying that his numbers would improve from his freshman year?), and I think the pressure got to him as the season went along. I'm excited to see how both will do this year. Eidsness with another year of experience under his belt...and then seeing which Kangas shows up. If I had to guess, I would think Kangas' numbers for this year will fall somewhere in the middle of his frosh/soph seasons.



I would take this bet though. It's not like his numbers were outstanding last year, he just got the job done on most occasions. I would imagine his GAA stays similar to the 2.56 from last year, but the save % will go up from .906 IMO.

:)

with first round draft pick senior Finley gone, his number will nosedive.

wasmania
09-19-2009, 05:51 PM
Ah, but in goons world, und's unproven freshmen will propel them to number 4, but on every other team freshmen are a complete liability.

Someone must have put glue from your Dad's airplane in the used gopher jock you're breathing through, you just said something accurate! :confused: :eek:

Greyeagle
09-19-2009, 06:10 PM
Ah, but in goons world, und's unproven freshmen will propel them to number 4, but on every other team freshmen are a complete liability.

It's the halos!

HarleyMC
09-19-2009, 11:42 PM
I would take this bet though.

Minus your lucky sig?;)

ajoyce02
09-20-2009, 01:16 AM
The wonder of this years frosh class is that all (4) of them bring something that is going to be exciting to watch.

Leddy's offense and skill carrying the puck.
Helgeson's size, grit, and toughness.
Budish's power forwardness.......boy, is that going to be fun to see for a change. A power forward that likes to play in front of the net.
Birkholz's speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed.

There's no fluff or fold in this years recruits.

I guess I've been tuned out a bit during the off-season, I take it Nathan Condon won't be joining the program?

HarleyMC
09-20-2009, 03:05 AM
I guess I've been tuned out a bit during the off-season, I take it Nathan Condon won't be joining the program?

I think he's scheduled for the 2010-11 season.


The Gophers lose almost 50 points from their line up with Ryan Stoa (24g-22a-46pts)signing a professional contract and apparently that has no bearing what so ever on the pre-season rankings? Give me a break. - Goon's World

75.6% of scoring returns:

F Jordon Schroeder (So), 13-32-45
F Jay Barriball (Sr), 11-23-34
D Cade Fairchild (Jr), 9-24-33
F Mike Hoeffel (Jr), 12-8-20
F Ryan Flynn (Sr), 6-13-19

All of the above look to improve and with the addition of recruits like Budish and Birkholz, the loss of Stoa's numbers will not be as significant as some naysayers may think.

ScoobyDoo
09-20-2009, 10:07 AM
I think he's scheduled for the 2010-11 season.


Correct. If they had had more defections my guess is Condon and perhaps Youso would have been on the short list to bring up to fill in. Condon's going to be in Fargo again this year AFAIK.

HarleyMC
09-20-2009, 01:14 PM
Under the NCAA bylaw “Time Limits for Athletically Related Activities,” sports programs cannot hold mandatory practices with coaches during the summer off season. Workouts can, however, be turned over to strength and conditioning coaches and team captains provided they are considered voluntary. Gopher hockey players have been meeting all summer and working hard in preparation for this coming season.


"For the most part everyone is there almost every day because guys want to get better and improve for next season,” men’s hockey captain Tony Lucia said. “If you're not in there getting better, then somebody's going to pass you, but so far we're very excited about the guys’ work ethic.”


“It’s all business right now", said Josh Birkholz. "We’re here at 7:30 every morning. All of us are working really hard. It’s a day-by-day thing to get stronger and improve as a team collectively, but everyone knows in the back of their mind that we have potential to win a national championship this year and every single year. It’s a matter of doing the little things right before that to get that big goal.”