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hockeyguy
09-08-2009, 11:06 AM
http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/2-clarkson-hockey-players-face-sex-charges-1.1429539

2 of there in comming recruits are in trouble. 2 big D Guys.

allnightwong
09-08-2009, 08:03 PM
They're 18, the girl/s were probably 16 or 17. Boo hoo

Wholin1
09-08-2009, 08:16 PM
They're 18, the girl/s were probably 16 or 17. Boo hoo
And this makes it OK? :confused:

ChiefWahoo
09-08-2009, 08:25 PM
And this makes it OK? :confused:

Depends on which State you are in. :D

hockeyplayer1015
09-08-2009, 09:11 PM
They're 18, the girl/s were probably 16 or 17. Boo hoo

anddddd, in NYS, like it or not, it's illegal. Tough learning experience for the 2 guys involved, but them's the laws.

techtodenver
09-08-2009, 09:26 PM
The thing about it I guarantee the girl lied about her age and also on the hockey side if they do get expelled that leaves Clarkson with seven dmen, so im wondering will they bring in another walk on or what do you guys think they will do?

hockeyplayer1015
09-08-2009, 09:45 PM
The thing about it I guarantee the girl lied about her age and also on the hockey side if they do get expelled that leaves Clarkson with seven dmen, so im wondering will they bring in another walk on or what do you guys think they will do?

Maybe she did, but you know what? You still have to be careful in that situation because you just never know.

I guess our secret conspiracy to beat you guys into submission again this year is out of the bag now.;)

Federal League
09-08-2009, 09:47 PM
I imagine the cops asked for ID (license, birth certificate, etc) when charging these two with the crime.

I think he meant they probably lied to the two players, who probably didn't check their IDs.

hockeyplayer1015
09-08-2009, 09:49 PM
I think he meant they probably lied to the two players, who probably didn't check their IDs.

ya, misread the first time, then caught it.

edit: a third player has been charged, and more info in this article.

Sorry, but a 16 year old girl shouldn't be able to fool these kids into believing shes over 18.

http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20090908/NEWS09/909089977

GreatLakerMohawk
09-08-2009, 10:02 PM
Sorry, but a 16 year old girl shouldn't be able to fool these kids into believing shes over 18.

Someone here has never seen "Animal House."

Dirty
09-08-2009, 10:16 PM
THEY TOOK THE BAR! THe WHOLE ***** BAR!!!

AKJD
09-08-2009, 10:25 PM
When I was 16 the lady at the fair threw a fit and made me show my ID, because she thought I was trying to sneak in at the student rate when I should be paying as an adult. Even told me that there was "no way you're under 18". And, the people I worked with thought I was 24-32 (yes, double my age) unless I outright told them otherwise. And my sister, who's 41, gets carded way more than I do, at 26. So yeah, short of an outright ID-check, and even then with fake ID's and such, knowing somebody's age is far from a given. Not really commenting on this particular case, since I don't know the details, just more on the whole idea that somebody JUST HAD to know how old somebody was. I hear that all the time, and it's just BS.

Wicked Slappaahs
09-08-2009, 11:05 PM
When I was 16 the lady at the fair threw a fit and made me show my ID, because she thought I was trying to sneak in at the student rate when I should be paying as an adult. Even told me that there was "no way you're under 18". And, the people I worked with thought I was 24-32 (yes, double my age) unless I outright told them otherwise. And my sister, who's 41, gets carded way more than I do, at 26. So yeah, short of an outright ID-check, and even then with fake ID's and such, knowing somebody's age is far from a given. Not really commenting on this particular case, since I don't know the details, just more on the whole idea that somebody JUST HAD to know how old somebody was. I hear that all the time, and it's just BS.

So at what point during this aimless post does the fact (according to the newspaper account) that it was three guys vs. one girl enter into your consciousness ? God I hope you don't have kids.

Wicked Slappaahs
09-08-2009, 11:09 PM
Given how the Clarkson admin. allowed the Mark Morris/Zach Schwan fiasco to degrade into a nuclear meltdown - resulting in Morris' dismissal - it'll be interesting to see how they handle this with Coach Roll.

The Paragon of Virtue
09-08-2009, 11:16 PM
So at what point during this aimless post does the fact (according to the newspaper account) that it was three guys vs. one girl enter into your consciousness ? God I hope you don't have kids.
She(?) wasn't commenting on the case:

Not really commenting on this particular case, since I don't know the details, just more on the whole idea that somebody JUST HAD to know how old somebody was. I hear that all the time, and it's just BS.

GreatLakerMohawk
09-08-2009, 11:25 PM
Given how the Clarkson admin. allowed the Mark Morris/Zach Schwan fiasco to degrade into a nuclear meltdown - resulting in Morris' dismissal - it'll be interesting to see how they handle this with Coach Roll.

Roll's tolerance for such matters will not be very high, especially with things hitting the press and on here. The situation will get figured out and then the appropriate action will be taken. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

Wicked Slappaahs
09-08-2009, 11:28 PM
Roll's tolerance for such matters will not be very high, especially with things hitting the press and on here. The situation will get figured out and then the appropriate action will be taken. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

I wasn't referring to how Roll will treat the players -- the legal process will handle them. I was referring to what reaction the Clarkson administration will have toward Roll. This isn't exactly how a college President wants their institution making news. Coaches have been canned for a lot less...no doubt a tough one for Roll, but the fact is it happened on his watch.

Wicked Slappaahs
09-08-2009, 11:39 PM
She(?) wasn't commenting on the case:
Mine was more a comment to all of the dozen + posters here all managed to miss the apparently minor (to them) detail that it was 3 guys and 1 girl.

GreatLakerMohawk
09-08-2009, 11:58 PM
I wasn't referring to how Roll will treat the players -- the legal process will handle them. I was referring to what reaction the Clarkson administration will have toward Roll. This isn't exactly how a college President wants their institution making news. Coaches have been canned for a lot less...no doubt a tough one for Roll, but the fact is it happened on his watch.

Sort of on his watch. Yeah their his recruits, but they weren't even at Clarkson yet. Sure you should have a good gauge of their character when recruiting a kid, but they're still freakin' kids prone to doing really reckless things.

Wicked Slappaahs
09-09-2009, 12:55 AM
Sort of on his watch. Yeah their his recruits, but they weren't even at Clarkson yet. Sure you should have a good gauge of their character when recruiting a kid, but they're still freakin' kids prone to doing really reckless things.

I don't dispute kids do stupid things. But they were on campus as reps of Roll's program coaching at his hockey camp...for all intents and purposes they were members of the team. His camp, his kids, his watch.