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Hammer
09-09-2010, 10:28 AM
Yeah, he doesn't stay in one place for very long. He did well for us when he was here, but he didn't exactly settle in for the long haul.

PrezdeJohnson09
09-09-2010, 10:52 AM
I found this thread doing some research for a post about recruits in my blog. The reason I was researching Leone is because he will be playing D1 hockey for Western Michigan this season.

You've got to be kidding me?:eek:

Utica seems like a long lost memory now...

Toe Blake's Brother
09-09-2010, 11:07 AM
Yeah, he doesn't stay in one place for very long. He did well for us when he was here, but he didn't exactly settle in for the long haul.

Hammer:

I am having trouble finding stats from last year on Leone. Was he #13? I remember a big player in the game against SNC who was clearly the best player on the ice for Adrian. If this is the loss, a very big loss at that!

Hammer
09-09-2010, 11:24 AM
Leone was not on Adrian's roster last season. He played the 1st half of the 08-09 season at Utica, and the 2nd half at Adrian. He spent last year at Lindenwood (I think).

Our "bigger" guys are #14 Workman, #25 Towns, and I guess you could consider #15 Kuzyk as big, I suppose. But there was no #13 on our roster last year.

moe24
09-09-2010, 11:36 AM
Hammer:

I am having trouble finding stats from last year on Leone. Was he #13? I remember a big player in the game against SNC who was clearly the best player on the ice for Adrian. If this is the loss, a very big loss at that!

Leone played 11 games for Lindenwood last season.

norm1909
09-09-2010, 11:42 AM
Hammer:

I am having trouble finding stats from last year on Leone. Was he #13? I remember a big player in the game against SNC who was clearly the best player on the ice for Adrian. If this is the loss, a very big loss at that!

Mike Leone
Season 2008-09 here (http://www.uscho.com/stats/player.php?pid=16106&gender=m) (Utica - 9 games - 5 goals/13 assists & Adrian - 14 games - 9 goals/16 assists)
Season 2009-10 here (http://www.lindenwoodlions.com/custompages/men_icehockey/2009_10/LU-Hockey-histcarr.htm?path=mhockey#20) (Lindenwood - 11 games - 5 goals/11 assists)

AVFC
09-09-2010, 11:45 AM
Leone played 11 games for Lindenwood last season.

Did that burn a year of NCAA eligibility?

moe24
09-09-2010, 11:52 AM
Did that burn a year of NCAA eligibility?

According to the WMU roster he is coming in as a sophomore. So unless the roster is wrong then, no, that 11 games at Lindenwood did not burn any eligibility.

norm1909
09-09-2010, 11:57 AM
According to the WMU roster he is coming in as a sophomore. So unless the roster is wrong then, no, that 11 games at Lindenwood did not burn any eligibility.

I would think it means he is an academic sophomore by virtue of transferrable credits, but I don't see how he can have more than 2 years of eligibility left.

collegehcky2
09-09-2010, 12:00 PM
Did that burn a year of NCAA eligibility?

That's quite a way of circumventing the NCAA's sit a year after transferring policy.

moe24
09-09-2010, 12:05 PM
That's quite a way of circumventing the NCAA's sit a year after transferring policy.

It would be if that even applied to him. You don't need to sit out a year if you're switching divisions.

moe24
09-09-2010, 12:06 PM
I would think it means he is an academic sophomore by virtue of transferrable credits, but I don't see how he can have more than 2 years of eligibility left.

Actually the roster calls him a redshirt sophomore. Again, they could be wrong, but at this point they are clearly calling him a sophomore in terms of athletic eligibility.

PrezdeJohnson09
09-09-2010, 12:47 PM
It would be if that even applied to him. You don't need to sit out a year if you're switching divisions.

I thought players transfering up from D-III to D-I were forced to sit a semester or full year?

XYZ
09-09-2010, 12:48 PM
It would be if that even applied to him. You don't need to sit out a year if you're switching divisions.

You do if you move from DIII to DI, but not vice versa.

moe24
09-09-2010, 12:52 PM
You do if you move from DIII to DI, but not vice versa.

Thanks for the correction.

NUProf
09-09-2010, 01:00 PM
It would be if that even applied to him. You don't need to sit out a year if you're switching divisions.

If you move from DIII to DI you have to sit, but not the other way around.

Hammer
09-09-2010, 01:03 PM
Well, apparently he "sat" last year and burned his redshirt in the process.

norm1909
09-09-2010, 01:05 PM
If you move from DIII to DI you have to sit, but not the other way around.

It is true that he doesn't have to sit out a year (DI rule to help prevent DIII poaching), but I still believe he has only 2 years of eligibility left.

Basic information you need to know about transferring to an NCAA college (http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/TGONLINE2009.pdf)

moe24
09-09-2010, 01:45 PM
It is true that he doesn't have to sit out a year (DI rule to help prevent DIII poaching), but I still believe he has only 2 years of eligibility left.

Basic information you need to know about transferring to an NCAA college (http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/TGONLINE2009.pdf)

That's an awfully long document that I don't have the time to read. Would you care to pinpoint the rule that supports your opinion?

norm1909
09-09-2010, 02:11 PM
That's an awfully long document that I don't have the time to read. Would you care to pinpoint the rule that supports your opinion?

The entire document essentially says that if you play in organized intercollegiate sports (NCAA, NAIA, ACHA, etc); you use a year of eligibility. It does provide numerous exceptions, but only for extenuating circumstances, which based upon his playing career, when he played, he fully participated without qualifying events.