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MadCityRich
01-21-2010, 03:04 PM
Ding, Ding, Ding.

From talking to Mike, he made it very clear that Wisconsin never even talked to him. How is it possible to have a goaltender with that talent level, from Madison, and not even give him a call to see what his plans are? Regardless of him having an outstanding season for Notre Dame we should have at least kept tabs on him.

I talked to Mike's mom about a year ago and was stunned that he wasn't approached. I knew Notre Dame was interested, but for some reason I felt Mike would land here. I wonder if Bill Howard were still around if we would have looked at Mike Johnson <strike>more</strike> at all?

Since we are self proclaimed "professional" goalie dads (ret), I think the UW should send Tim and me to Finland, Sweden, and Russia to scout some 'tenders ;) . I do have extensive knowledge of the "Howie" system and goaltenders in that area seem to be hot in the NHL currently.

MadCityRich
01-21-2010, 03:30 PM
Is there a good place that lists all of the *HL leagues, and what they are? For example, I stumbled across this link: http://thepuckdoctors.com/2010/01/whl-rookie-scores-one-handed-goal/

I had no idea what the WHL was, so I did research on that one, found out it was part the the CHL, which would make players ineligible for NCAA.

But players in other leagues, such as the BCHL and USHL, are eligible for the NCAA. Then of course you have the NHL development leagues like the AHL.

So is there one place that describes all of the leagues that I can refer to when I see an abbrev.? Or do I have to look up each one when I see it and try to remember what it is?

http://chl.ca
Click on the link. The upper right section has a "Teams" tab. The Canadian Hockey League oversees the 3 Canadian based major junior leagues. The Ontario Hockey League, the Western Hockey League, and the Quebec Major Junior Hockey Leagues are made up of 60 teams (20 and under) mostly in Canada with a handful in the US. Back in my day, it was called "Tier 1 Junior A".

The "AHL" is the old "International Hockey League" (IHL) which is pretty much like AAA baseball..one step below the NHL. The BCHL in Canada is the USHL equivalent....Tier 1 Junior A. (The NAHL is considered Tier 2 junior A).
The USHL is a stepping stone to NCAA hockey, while the CHL is a stepping stone to the NHL.

Check that link to the CHL. It should give you all the info.

Innova
01-21-2010, 05:38 PM
Thanks MCR!

Gandalf the Red
01-21-2010, 06:17 PM
Ding, Ding, Ding.

From talking to Mike, he made it very clear that Wisconsin never even talked to him. How is it possible to have a goaltender with that talent level, from Madison, and not even give him a call to see what his plans are? Regardless of him having an outstanding season for Notre Dame we should have at least kept tabs on him.

I was thinking about this the other day, funny it was brought up here. After that one top goalie recruit verballed to Denver, and then Chuck mentioned he was one of the top one's who had been left out there for '10, I immediately thought about Mike Johnson.

Maybe Eaves will get lucky, someone decent will want to transfer in and sit out next season, and then the team lands a stud frosh for a decent tandem of experience and skill.

Goalies are one position that has no guarnatees from what I've seen lately. I thought CC was done w/ Bachman gone, but Joe Howe has played well. On the flip side, Kangas started off great as a frosh and has progressively gotten worse, but I suppose that is just what happens to gopher goalies.

The real question is why doesn't anyone have any faith in Mitch Thompson? ;)

Chuck Schwartz
01-25-2010, 01:45 AM
Updated the recruiting statistics (http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p-RajuvpLDfEhh7uNaENNaw) including new recruit Jason Clark.

Chuck Schwartz
01-27-2010, 05:03 AM
Tyler Barnes had a goal in the USHL All-Star game tonight.

Wisko McBadgerton
01-27-2010, 11:16 AM
Chuck, what is your take on Sean Little? I haven't seen him, but understand he's a physical player. I see he has 2g 4a in 33 gp as a forward. I think the term "underwhelming" was used somewhere...

In 33 gp it seems at least a couple of extra goals would just accidently bounce off a guy's stick. Is there a story behind that story?

Red Till I'm Dead!
01-27-2010, 12:09 PM
In 33 gp it seems at least a couple of extra goals would just accidently bounce off a guy's stick. Is there a story behind that story?

Yes, another story:D

Wisko McBadgerton
01-27-2010, 05:08 PM
Yes, another story:D

Another story involving compromising pics of Barry Alvarez?

Because I've heard that one before.

Red Till I'm Dead!
01-27-2010, 05:13 PM
Another story involving compromising pics of Barry Alvarez?

Because I've heard that one before.

Shhhhhhhhhh, keep that on the DL ;)

Gandalf the Red
01-27-2010, 05:15 PM
Chuck, what is your take on Sean Little? I haven't seen him, but understand he's a physical player. I see he has 2g 4a in 33 gp as a forward. I think the term "underwhelming" was used somewhere...

In 33 gp it seems at least a couple of extra goals would just accidently bounce off a guy's stick. Is there a story behind that story?

I've made several Gamblers games the last few years, last season Sean was on the 4th line and didn't see much ice time. Though when I was there he had some nice chances, just didn't convert. Last season he also came on late in the season, maybe that will happen again this year, there is still 2.5 months of USHL regular season left.

This year, he's on the 3rd line (so not a scoring position), and is behind some of the nice scorers who "hog" the boxscores like Anders Lee. He was a regular on the PK at the games I saw, and did well there.

Personally, I like the way he plays, he hasn't filled the stat sheet, but I don't think he's been in the position to be a "scorer" either. He plays physical, is not afraid to put a hit on anyone, and gives his best effort. If he starts as a 4th line PKer, that won't be a bad spot for him.

I believe Eaves compared him to Ben Grotting, I'd say a Grotting w/ more upside on offense.

Chuck Schwartz
01-27-2010, 06:32 PM
Chuck, what is your take on Sean Little? I haven't seen him, but understand he's a physical player. I see he has 2g 4a in 33 gp as a forward. I think the term "underwhelming" was used somewhere...

In 33 gp it seems at least a couple of extra goals would just accidently bounce off a guy's stick. Is there a story behind that story?

Take Gandalf's word on Little. He's seen much more of him than I have. I also agree with his assessment.

WisconsinWildcard
01-27-2010, 07:10 PM
I've made several Gamblers games the last few years, last season Sean was on the 4th line and didn't see much ice time. Though when I was there he had some nice chances, just didn't convert. Last season he also came on late in the season, maybe that will happen again this year, there is still 2.5 months of USHL regular season left.

This year, he's on the 3rd line (so not a scoring position), and is behind some of the nice scorers who "hog" the boxscores like Anders Lee. He was a regular on the PK at the games I saw, and did well there.

Personally, I like the way he plays, he hasn't filled the stat sheet, but I don't think he's been in the position to be a "scorer" either. He plays physical, is not afraid to put a hit on anyone, and gives his best effort. If he starts as a 4th line PKer, that won't be a bad spot for him.

I believe Eaves compared him to Ben Grotting, I'd say a Grotting w/ more upside on offense.

I played with both Littles in high school. Sean has a long way to go (IMO) before he has the talent that Ryan has. Plus, look where Ryan ended up when he got here.

bucky15
01-27-2010, 11:01 PM
I am excited to see Barnes and Zengerle step right into the scoring action next year! They should be able to put some goals on to the scoreboard next year at the Kohl. I love that we have a balance of grinders and scorers coming on to the team next year. It helps a ton to have players that know their role before they step onto campus. That's what it will take to get more NCAA titles at Wisconsin. It should be some good upcoming years for the cardinal and white!

Also, I think Dahl will surprise some people scoring wise once heís got some experience at the college level.

Simonelli and Mersch didnít impress me on there visit to the Kohl, but a year of growth both physically and mentally will help a lot for next year.

Chuck Schwartz
01-28-2010, 01:05 AM
I am excited to see Barnes and Zengerle step right into the scoring action next year! They should be able to put some goals on to the scoreboard next year at the Kohl. I love that we have a balance of grinders and scorers coming on to the team next year. It helps a ton to have players that know their role before they step onto campus. That's what it will take to get more NCAA titles at Wisconsin. It should be some good upcoming years for the cardinal and white!

Also, I think Dahl will surprise some people scoring wise once heís got some experience at the college level.

Simonelli and Mersch didnít impress me on there visit to the Kohl, but a year of growth both physically and mentally will help a lot for next year.

-I'm also excited to see Barnes and especially Zengerle. The combination of scoring ability and maturity is almost unheard of these days. Players like Zengerle rarely stay that extra year of junior.

-Agreed on the mix of players coming in. Little is probably the weakest of the group but he was brought in for a reason, and it wasn't his scoring ability. As long as he knows his role, he'll be fine.

-Dahl will be a fun player to watch. Not for his scoring ability but for his play making ability. I haven't seen many players at the high school level see the ice as well as he can.

-Simonelli and Mersch are young you need to remember that. Especially Mersch being a late 1992 birth year. Keep in mind age wise that Mersch is only a junior in high school right now. I wouldn't expect him to be impressive against the second ranked team in the country at the college level right now. Hell guys like Grotting and Bendickson are like 6 1/2 years older than Mersch right now.

Chuck Schwartz
01-28-2010, 08:03 AM
Wisconsin is looking at Delano, MN forward Tyler Heinonen.

Gandalf the Red
01-28-2010, 10:53 AM
-I'm also excited to see Barnes and especially Zengerle. The combination of scoring ability and maturity is almost unheard of these days. Players like Zengerle rarely stay that extra year of junior.

-Agreed on the mix of players coming in. Little is probably the weakest of the group but he was brought in for a reason, and it wasn't his scoring ability. As long as he knows his role, he'll be fine.

-Dahl will be a fun player to watch. Not for his scoring ability but for his play making ability. I haven't seen many players at the high school level see the ice as well as he can.

-Simonelli and Mersch are young you need to remember that. Especially Mersch being a late 1992 birth year. Keep in mind age wise that Mersch is only a junior in high school right now. I wouldn't expect him to be impressive against the second ranked team in the country at the college level right now. Hell guys like Grotting and Bendickson are like 6 1/2 years older than Mersch right now.

I like Dahl as well, I think he is the "wildcard" in next season's freshmen class. I liked what I saw last season when he was w/ the Gamblers, he just needs to get stronger, he is filling the box scores for Youngstown recently, which is a good sign on a young team that (at least reading box scores) had struggled early on in their expansion season.

Mersch has one thing you can't teach: size. Nice to have a power forward w/ a lot of upside coming in.

bucky15
01-28-2010, 11:04 AM
I like Dahl as well, I think he is the "wildcard" in next season's freshmen class. I liked what I saw last season when he was w/ the Gamblers, he just needs to get stronger, he is filling the box scores for Youngstown recently, which is a good sign on a young team that (at least reading box scores) had struggled early on in their expansion season.

Mersch has one thing you can't teach: size. Nice to have a power forward w/ a lot of upside coming in.

Every great team has a wildcard..............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYtjpIwamos

WisconsinWildcard
01-28-2010, 11:36 AM
Every great team has a wildcard..............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYtjpIwamos

:D :D :D

Chuck Schwartz
01-28-2010, 08:08 PM
Every great team has a wildcard..............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYtjpIwamos

AWESOME