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Hokydad
06-17-2010, 01:57 PM
Chris Huxley. Committed to RPI and when coach Dan Fridgen wasn't retained he managed to find his way to Harvard somehow. Go figure.

So when the coach got fired, a local Boston kid, who has known Donato and the program his entire life, a local prep product decided not to go to a school with no coach, hours away etc, thats raiding?

When the coach leaves, all bets are off. He had every right to leave under that scenerio

Chuck Schwartz
06-17-2010, 01:58 PM
Do you have a link on that?

Brooks from the NYP originally said that if Stepan didn't make the Rangers that he would be in the WHL. Which is why many Badger fans flipped out. Stepans dad was interviewed by the Madison papers and said that it wasn't true. He'll be in NY or Hartford (AHL).

GreatLakerMohawk
06-17-2010, 02:11 PM
So when the coach got fired, a local Boston kid, who has known Donato and the program his entire life, a local prep product decided not to go to a school with no coach, hours away etc, thats raiding?

When the coach leaves, all bets are off. He had every right to leave under that scenerio

Fridgen wasn't fired, he did not receive a new contract. When you make a commitment to a program you don't ditch out just because things happen.

By your logic, however, it's OK that this kid who was committed to Dartmouth is in the clear because he just happens to be from Wisconsin and opted to go to the Badgers. Or is this different for you?

Hokydad
06-17-2010, 02:21 PM
Fridgen wasn't fired, he did not receive a new contract. When you make a commitment to a program you don't ditch out just because things happen.

By your logic, however, it's OK that this kid who was committed to Dartmouth is in the clear because he just happens to be from Wisconsin and opted to go to the Badgers. Or is this different for you?

The coach that recruited him left, period.

Gaudet is still there. If you cant see the difference I dont know what to say. And the kid going to Wisc is wrong but, better to do it now then regret it your whole life

Hard to say anyone would regret going to Dartmouth......

Puck Swami
06-17-2010, 02:55 PM
It's happened to us twice recently. Denver stole Patrick Wiercoich and Minnesota stole Nate Hagemo.When coaches jobs and livelihoods are on the line, do what you can within the rules. Recruit until they are on campus or signed a LOI.

The school they are committed to needs to keep recruiting the player even after they have verballed. Many schools ignore kids once they verbal.

This happens in football and basketball all the time. Hockey should be no different.

Denver didn't steal Weircioch. While DU did recruit him, DU did not chase him after he verbally committed to UW. UW told Wiercioch that they wanted him to play another year of junior hockey because their blueline corps was too full, and PW thought he was ready for college hockey, so he decommitted. At the end of the day, we want players to be loyal to the programs they commit to verbally, but when circumstances change (a new coach or delayed entry are typical), the leverage swings back to the player. There is always a risk a school takes when it tries to park players in Junior when rosters are full. As a second round NHL draft pick, PW felt he was ready to play and didn't wan't to play another year in the USHL. You can't really blame him for that.

Wiercioch contacted DU only after DU recruit David Carle was diagnosed with a career ending heart condition in June of 2008 and the extra scholarship became available from DU after his diagnosis. Had Carle not been diagnosed, PW would not have been able to come to Denver. As it turned out, Paddy was more than ready to play college hockey.

Nick Papagiorgio
06-17-2010, 03:03 PM
When the coach leaves, all bets are off. He had every right to leave under that scenerio


The coach that recruited him left, period.

Gaudet is still there. If you cant see the difference I dont know what to say.

Once again, hokydad is right on the money.

markwojo
06-17-2010, 03:55 PM
Eaves will not win with non-Badger fans and even some Badger fans no matter what he does. He is in a no win position of either "overrecruiting" or getting caught short when a few more then expected bail for the pros. In the end, he has done what he needs to...when a big fish takes a bite at you, you bite at the little fish. Pro's come calling for our guys, Eaves goes shopping for kids looking for a higher profile college gig.

DPlaya
06-17-2010, 04:26 PM
Denver didn't steal Weircioch. While DU did recruit him, DU did not chase him after he verbally committed to UW. UW told Wiercioch that they wanted him to play another year of junior hockey because their blueline corps was too full, and PW thought he was ready for college hockey, so he decommitted. At the end of the day, we want players to be loyal to the programs they commit to verbally, but when circumstances change (a new coach or delayed entry are typical), the leverage swings back to the player. There is always a risk a school takes when it tries to park players in Junior when rosters are full. As a second round NHL draft pick, PW felt he was ready to play and didn't wan't to play another year in the USHL. You can't really blame him for that.

Wiercioch contacted DU only after DU recruit David Carle was diagnosed with a career ending heart condition in June of 2008 and the extra scholarship became available from DU after his diagnosis. Had Carle not been diagnosed, PW would not have been able to come to Denver. As it turned out, Paddy was more than ready to play college hockey.

Just to clarify, Wiercioch was not delayed by UW. He had committed for the year UW was going to bring him in, with the possibility of an earlier arrival.

aktick
06-17-2010, 04:39 PM
How do we know Eaves contacted this kid? Maybe he knew UW needed another F and contacted Eaves. :) ;)

MadCityRich
06-17-2010, 05:15 PM
Why is it, when I see red dots, I know what to expect?:rolleyes:

Gandalf the Red
06-17-2010, 07:11 PM
His post has been edited but he originally called me a blow hard for an article that Gandalf wrote. Guy (Ranger Fan) is an idiot.


LINK (http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=784676&page=16)

Sorry that you need to be called names for things I write Chuck.

Another guy called me a clown, classic!!! I've hated the Rangers since I started watching the NHL in 1992. Some teams just foster instant hatred; the signing of Stepan and McD just rekindles my disdain.

GoBucky
06-22-2010, 02:01 PM
Yep, it is true, Wisconsin has landed Sioux Falls USHL forward Matt Lindblad. He was committed to dartmouth but backed out and took a full ride from us.


HUGE, HUGE, HUGE recruiting coup.

Baggot article says this is not a done deal and he is still visiting Notre Dame:
http://host.madison.com/sports/college/hockey/article_a91d4920-7d85-11df-946d-001cc4c03286.html

Chuck Schwartz
06-22-2010, 03:04 PM
Baggot article says this is not a done deal and he is still visiting Notre Dame:
http://host.madison.com/sports/college/hockey/article_a91d4920-7d85-11df-946d-001cc4c03286.html

:(

GoBucky
06-22-2010, 04:18 PM
Worse news from Baggot - Lindblad will honor his commitment to Dartmouth:
http://host.madison.com/sports/college/hockey/article_87ffdfcc-7e35-11df-96e8-001cc4c03286.html

dggoddard
06-22-2010, 04:30 PM
Worse news from Baggot - Lindblad will honor his commitment to Dartmouth:
http://host.madison.com/sports/college/hockey/article_87ffdfcc-7e35-11df-96e8-001cc4c03286.htmlWhy, that no-good, triple crossin' ungrateful S.O.B. How can he go back on his word and go to Dartmouth? :)

Gandalf the Red
06-22-2010, 04:34 PM
Worse news from Baggot - Lindblad will honor his commitment to Dartmouth:
http://host.madison.com/sports/college/hockey/article_87ffdfcc-7e35-11df-96e8-001cc4c03286.html

Well back to the drawing board...

brianvf
06-22-2010, 04:35 PM
Why, that no-good, triple crossin' ungrateful S.O.B. How can he go back on his word and go to Dartmouth? :)

:D

Surprising development. I don't think I've ever heard of a player back out of a commitment and talk to other schools...only to go back to his original school.

Chuck Schwartz
06-22-2010, 06:43 PM
:D

Surprising development. I don't think I've ever heard of a player back out of a commitment and talk to other schools...only to go back to his original school.

Imagine my surprise. I had THREE people confirm he was going to Wisconsin.

MadCityRich
06-22-2010, 07:42 PM
Of course I'm disappointed because of all the hype, but if this IS true, it could be a good thing....he could be ****ed up.

I never prejudge or anything like that. ( :D )

Chuck Schwartz
06-23-2010, 01:22 PM
2012 recruit Jordan Schmaltz just de-committed (http://noalibisnoregrets.blogspot.com/2010/06/schmaltz-de-commits-from-wisconsin.html).