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HighToTheGloveSide
02-11-2010, 03:14 PM
Sounds like the answer is who didn't hey have in last weekend.

Are you aware of any other potential recruits that were at the CRHC?

Thanks.

Chuck Schwartz
02-11-2010, 03:45 PM
Are you aware of any other potential recruits that were at the CRHC?

Thanks.

As of right now, just the ones that have already been mentioned, Rumpel (who committed), McGuire (who was already committed), and Kerdiles.

solovsfett
02-11-2010, 10:53 PM
As of right now, just the ones that have already been mentioned, Rumpel (who committed), McGuire (who was already committed), and Kerdiles.

This has the makings of the Suter/Earl #1 class, perhaps...potentially....better?

Also I guess McDonagh, Turris, Smith was #1 (just read that)....I had forgotten

Chuck Schwartz
02-11-2010, 11:29 PM
This has the makings of the Suter/Earl #1 class, perhaps...potentially....better?

Also I guess McDonagh, Turris, Smith was #1 (just read that)....I had forgotten

I think it's too early to tell how good this 2012 class could be.

solovsfett
02-11-2010, 11:47 PM
I think it's too early to tell how good this 2012 class could be.

just getting a bit excited for the future:D

of course they could plateau before arriving even but I'll be relying on you and the rest of the 60min crew along with Joeyv to keep us up to speed

Chuck Schwartz
02-12-2010, 12:04 AM
just getting a bit excited for the future:D

of course they could plateau before arriving even but I'll be relying on you and the rest of the 60min crew along with Joeyv to keep us up to speed

I think it's a strong start but I don't know if any of them will end up as high of draft picks as some of the other classes you mentioned. Schmaltz is maybe a third round guy, and McGuire doesn't have the size to go that high in the draft. Kerdiles is probably the best prospect of the group so far.

Also ps, I may be retiring so everyone else may need to keep you up to date.

solovsfett
02-12-2010, 06:59 AM
I think it's a strong start but I don't know if any of them will end up as high of draft picks as some of the other classes you mentioned. Schmaltz is maybe a third round guy, and McGuire doesn't have the size to go that high in the draft. Kerdiles is probably the best prospect of the group so far.

Also ps, I may be retiring so everyone else may need to keep you up to date.

noooooo:(

well if you do retire best of luck and good health, and thanks for the updates/blog, you've set the bar pretty high there

Timothy A
02-12-2010, 01:33 PM
Also ps, I may be retiring so everyone else may need to keep you up to date.

Please don't desert us. You're the best thing evah that's happened to our little Band of Badgers as far as recruiting goes. Your our version of Mel Kiper. You have all these great connections. You could scale back, maybe just work on the NA-NR Blog. You don't have to run yourself ragged for us, just a little good info now and then would be just fine. But PLEASE, don't cut the chord! :)

(I don't take break-ups well, can you tell?)

Chuck Schwartz
02-12-2010, 02:01 PM
It sounds as if Milwaukee area defenseman Jose Delgadillo could be in play. He's officially visiting in April per collegehockey247 and also is looking at Mankato.

Chuck Schwartz
02-12-2010, 02:24 PM
Also keep an eye on a couple more kids from Milwaukee, forward Noah Nelson and defenseman Jarrod Robey.

Chuck Schwartz
02-18-2010, 07:10 AM
Mark Zengerle named (http://noalibisnoregrets.blogspot.com/2010/02/zengerle-named-2010-top-10-recruit.html) #6 overall recruit for 2010.

"The season has gone really well this year. From a statistical standpoint things have gone really good, but I've also improved in other aspects of the game which I think is going to help me the most. I think I've become more responsible in all areas of the ice and take pride in doing the little things more than I did in the past."


Please don't desert us. You're the best thing evah that's happened to our little Band of Badgers as far as recruiting goes. Your our version of Mel Kiper. You have all these great connections. You could scale back, maybe just work on the NA-NR Blog. You don't have to run yourself ragged for us, just a little good info now and then would be just fine. But PLEASE, don't cut the chord! :)

(I don't take break-ups well, can you tell?)

Thanks Timmy, and solo. We'll see what happens.

joeyv
02-18-2010, 10:36 AM
just getting a bit excited for the future:D

of course they could plateau before arriving even but I'll be relying on you and the rest of the 60min crew along with Joeyv to keep us up to speed

In terms of McGuire, he's a big time get. Smallish, but lightning quick, highly skilled, and comes from a nice program. You can bet this kid will come in and contribute right away. All indications are that Kerdiles is an elite recruit, although I must admit I have not gotten a great deal of feedback on the kid and have never seen him play.

Matt Paape and Jordan Schmaltz (in particularl) appear to be progressing very nicely. I'm encouraged when these younger signees are discussed in terms of being leaders and these kids are doing very well.

Mark Zengerle reminds me a lot of Tyler Bozak in terms of his development. He's going to come in as a 20 year old, has several seasons under his belt in the BCHL, and will likely have a certain maturity that a true 17-18 year old frosh doesn't have. (e.g. Ross Carlson, Dave Hukalo, Craig Smith, Matt Thurber, Andy Bohmbach et al). However, I'd tell you that Zengerle has had two huge seasons in the BCHL, whereas Bozak really did not sparkle until his last year. Needless to say, Zengerle has got first line skills and a kid who can come in and replace some of the scoring punch that is departing next season. The same can be said of Tyler Barnes, who has been patient, and like Craig Smith, I think he's goint to reap the rewards of that extra USHL season as compared to languishing on the bench this season getting spotty ice time.

In terms of Rumpel (how can you NOT like that name?), I have been told this kid has been hands down dominating since he was thrown into the #1 goaltending spot. He's got a **** good team around him to be sure.

Sleeper is Jefferson Dahl in my estimation. He's quietly put together a nice season in the USHL, and he's one of those kids like Craig Smith who will likely spend several seasons in the USHL and really make a nice contribution when he comes in at UW. Tyler Lapic, Cody Strang, and Gavin Hartzog need much more seasoning before they are ready. I'm a little disappointed in Lapic's development up to this point...but I also said that about Smith as well at a similar stage in his USHL career.

Additionally, Mike Mersch (a Geoffrion type player), Frankie Simonelli (reminds me a bit of Cody Golobeuf...not flashy but smart, steady, and skilled), and Troy Hesketh (another Minnesota kid the Gophers are going to be sorry they didn't recruit harder...see Gardiner and McDonagh) seem to be doing very well with their respective teams (Mersch and Simonellie NTDP and Hesketh-Minnetonka).

Jake McCabe is going to be a fantastic college hockey player. He's got all the tools and we have to be patient and not rush this kid into UW.

UW really has not had a "whiff" in the last two classes. They've gotten MOST of the kids they've wanted.

With respect to the development of last year's guys...you certainly cannot argue with Justin Schultz's play (he's had a great frosh season...with a few gaffes here and there), John Ramage has exceeded my expectations by far (I like his physical edge and he has shown decent skill as well at times), and Craig Smith has had a great frosh season (despite his propensity for ill timed and STUPID penalties late in games), and Derek Lee has shown some ability (although he's currently buried on the bench) this season as well.

All in all, as a Badger fan, I cannot express an great deal of disappointment with the recruiting trail so far.

Big series this weekend. Looking forward to a playoff-type atmosphere.

Wisconsin Hockey: Futurama.

Chuck Schwartz
02-18-2010, 06:20 PM
In terms of McGuire, he's a big time get. Smallish, but lightning quick, highly skilled, and comes from a nice program. You can bet this kid will come in and contribute right away. All indications are that Kerdiles is an elite recruit, although I must admit I have not gotten a great deal of feedback on the kid and have never seen him play.

Matt Paape and Jordan Schmaltz (in particularl) appear to be progressing very nicely. I'm encouraged when these younger signees are discussed in terms of being leaders and these kids are doing very well.

Mark Zengerle reminds me a lot of Tyler Bozak in terms of his development. He's going to come in as a 20 year old, has several seasons under his belt in the BCHL, and will likely have a certain maturity that a true 17-18 year old frosh doesn't have. (e.g. Ross Carlson, Dave Hukalo, Craig Smith, Matt Thurber, Andy Bohmbach et al). However, I'd tell you that Zengerle has had two huge seasons in the BCHL, whereas Bozak really did not sparkle until his last year. Needless to say, Zengerle has got first line skills and a kid who can come in and replace some of the scoring punch that is departing next season. The same can be said of Tyler Barnes, who has been patient, and like Craig Smith, I think he's goint to reap the rewards of that extra USHL season as compared to languishing on the bench this season getting spotty ice time.

In terms of Rumpel (how can you NOT like that name?), I have been told this kid has been hands down dominating since he was thrown into the #1 goaltending spot. He's got a **** good team around him to be sure.

Sleeper is Jefferson Dahl in my estimation. He's quietly put together a nice season in the USHL, and he's one of those kids like Craig Smith who will likely spend several seasons in the USHL and really make a nice contribution when he comes in at UW. Tyler Lapic, Cody Strang, and Gavin Hartzog need much more seasoning before they are ready. I'm a little disappointed in Lapic's development up to this point...but I also said that about Smith as well at a similar stage in his USHL career.

Additionally, Mike Mersch (a Geoffrion type player), Frankie Simonelli (reminds me a bit of Cody Golobeuf...not flashy but smart, steady, and skilled), and Troy Hesketh (another Minnesota kid the Gophers are going to be sorry they didn't recruit harder...see Gardiner and McDonagh) seem to be doing very well with their respective teams (Mersch and Simonellie NTDP and Hesketh-Minnetonka).

Jake McCabe is going to be a fantastic college hockey player. He's got all the tools and we have to be patient and not rush this kid into UW.

UW really has not had a "whiff" in the last two classes. They've gotten MOST of the kids they've wanted.

With respect to the development of last year's guys...you certainly cannot argue with Justin Schultz's play (he's had a great frosh season...with a few gaffes here and there), John Ramage has exceeded my expectations by far (I like his physical edge and he has shown decent skill as well at times), and Craig Smith has had a great frosh season (despite his propensity for ill timed and STUPID penalties late in games), and Derek Lee has shown some ability (although he's currently buried on the bench) this season as well.

All in all, as a Badger fan, I cannot express an great deal of disappointment with the recruiting trail so far.

Big series this weekend. Looking forward to a playoff-type atmosphere.

Wisconsin Hockey: Futurama.

A+ work Joey.

solovsfett
02-18-2010, 08:54 PM
In terms of McGuire, he's a big time get. Smallish, but lightning quick, highly skilled, and comes from a nice program. You can bet this kid will come in and contribute right away. All indications are that Kerdiles is an elite recruit, although I must admit I have not gotten a great deal of feedback on the kid and have never seen him play.

Matt Paape and Jordan Schmaltz (in particularl) appear to be progressing very nicely. I'm encouraged when these younger signees are discussed in terms of being leaders and these kids are doing very well.

Mark Zengerle reminds me a lot of Tyler Bozak in terms of his development. He's going to come in as a 20 year old, has several seasons under his belt in the BCHL, and will likely have a certain maturity that a true 17-18 year old frosh doesn't have. (e.g. Ross Carlson, Dave Hukalo, Craig Smith, Matt Thurber, Andy Bohmbach et al). However, I'd tell you that Zengerle has had two huge seasons in the BCHL, whereas Bozak really did not sparkle until his last year. Needless to say, Zengerle has got first line skills and a kid who can come in and replace some of the scoring punch that is departing next season. The same can be said of Tyler Barnes, who has been patient, and like Craig Smith, I think he's goint to reap the rewards of that extra USHL season as compared to languishing on the bench this season getting spotty ice time.

In terms of Rumpel (how can you NOT like that name?), I have been told this kid has been hands down dominating since he was thrown into the #1 goaltending spot. He's got a **** good team around him to be sure.

Sleeper is Jefferson Dahl in my estimation. He's quietly put together a nice season in the USHL, and he's one of those kids like Craig Smith who will likely spend several seasons in the USHL and really make a nice contribution when he comes in at UW. Tyler Lapic, Cody Strang, and Gavin Hartzog need much more seasoning before they are ready. I'm a little disappointed in Lapic's development up to this point...but I also said that about Smith as well at a similar stage in his USHL career.

Additionally, Mike Mersch (a Geoffrion type player), Frankie Simonelli (reminds me a bit of Cody Golobeuf...not flashy but smart, steady, and skilled), and Troy Hesketh (another Minnesota kid the Gophers are going to be sorry they didn't recruit harder...see Gardiner and McDonagh) seem to be doing very well with their respective teams (Mersch and Simonellie NTDP and Hesketh-Minnetonka).

Jake McCabe is going to be a fantastic college hockey player. He's got all the tools and we have to be patient and not rush this kid into UW.

UW really has not had a "whiff" in the last two classes. They've gotten MOST of the kids they've wanted.

With respect to the development of last year's guys...you certainly cannot argue with Justin Schultz's play (he's had a great frosh season...with a few gaffes here and there), John Ramage has exceeded my expectations by far (I like his physical edge and he has shown decent skill as well at times), and Craig Smith has had a great frosh season (despite his propensity for ill timed and STUPID penalties late in games), and Derek Lee has shown some ability (although he's currently buried on the bench) this season as well.

All in all, as a Badger fan, I cannot express an great deal of disappointment with the recruiting trail so far.

Big series this weekend. Looking forward to a playoff-type atmosphere.

Wisconsin Hockey: Futurama.

great analysis... And I concur it seems Coach Eaves has gotten 90% or more of the kids he's wanted in the last 1 1/2 to 2 years....the future is looking bright in Madison:)

VarsityWisconsin
02-18-2010, 09:48 PM
Weren't we complaining about Eaves over recruiting at this point last year. Count me as one of us that weren't for the record. The future looks good.

Almington
02-19-2010, 12:26 AM
Weren't we complaining about Eaves over recruiting at this point last year. Count me as one of us that weren't for the record. The future looks good.

The problem was that UW was looking at having somewhere in the area of 20 forwards on the roster for this season (but that problem seems to have worked itself out). It's clear that Eaves had over-recruited for this season, but that was more a function of players not leaving early as expected (Mitchell, Geoffrion) and Street getting a medical redshirt.

It is very hard to predict when players will leave early and Eaves was over-reacting to what happened after the 05-06 season and not wanting to be caught unprepared for what might happen.

Chuck Schwartz
02-19-2010, 06:40 AM
the new Rivals.com recruiting site College Hockey 247 was in the process of revealing its top 50 recruits for the upcoming 2010 hockey season.

First, they released the top 10 list which featured Badger incoming forward recruit Mark Zengerle at #6 overall, who was very honored to be included.

Recently they released the full list of 50 which includes another Badger, incoming forward recruit Michael Mersch from the USA NTDP U-18 squad. Mersch checks in at #40 overall.

Gandalf the Red
02-19-2010, 08:45 AM
I think the only thing Eaves is lacked looking forward, are forwards in the 2011 class.

I'm hopeful that Tyler Lapic, Matt Paape and Cody Strang turn out pretty well, but Gavin Hartzog (while he still has great size) appears to have taken a step back.

I think this class is an example of Eaves jumping the gun, because it is hard for me not to believe that someone will bloom next season or be uncommitted and would be a better addition than one or more of this group. John Ramage and Jason Clark rings bells in my head on what appears to be late recruiting success stories.

Hopefully I'll be proven wrong by all of them, though they will be replacing a very underwhelming class of forwards in Patrick Johnson, Sean Dolan and Josh Turnbull.

Chuck Schwartz
02-19-2010, 09:37 AM
I think the only thing Eaves is lacked looking forward, are forwards in the 2011 class.

I'm hopeful that Tyler Lapic, Matt Paape and Cody Strang turn out pretty well, but Gavin Hartzog (while he still has great size) appears to have taken a step back.

I think this class is an example of Eaves jumping the gun, because it is hard for me not to believe that someone will bloom next season or be uncommitted and would be a better addition than one or more of this group. John Ramage and Jason Clark rings bells in my head on what appears to be late recruiting success stories.

Hopefully I'll be proven wrong by all of them, though they will be replacing a very underwhelming class of forwards in Patrick Johnson, Sean Dolan and Josh Turnbull.

I think we'll see a bigger name forward added to that 2011 class. Maybe a Vilardo or something.

VarsityWisconsin
02-21-2010, 09:14 AM
The problem was that UW was looking at having somewhere in the area of 20 forwards on the roster for this season (but that problem seems to have worked itself out). It's clear that Eaves had over-recruited for this season, but that was more a function of players not leaving early as expected (Mitchell, Geoffrion) and Street getting a medical redshirt.

It is very hard to predict when players will leave early and Eaves was over-reacting to what happened after the 05-06 season and not wanting to be caught unprepared for what might happen.

It's hard to blame Eaves for mitigating the risk of those 3 players all being gone for this year which was a very possible scenario. So it might have looked like over recruiting, but he was doing what every smart investor does in their portfolio: hedge risk.

And yes, it did end up working out because he got some of the recruits to stay in the USHL for one more year so he had a bit of luck on his side as well that those guys didn't decommit.

All in all, we have little to complain about Eaves and his recruiting in my opinion. We were a Kyle Turris away from being a Frozen Four contender last year, and we all know he made the wrong decision to go pro. Some things are out of his control and he tries to mitigate the risk of players going pro after learning from experience.