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First Time, Long Time
09-06-2009, 11:57 PM
New year, new team, we don't know what the problems are going to be.

scsutommyboy
09-07-2009, 09:23 AM
New year, new team, we don't know what the problems are going to be.

Exactly. That is why it is important to have a good start and get a positive feeling flowing right away this year.

SCSU Euro
09-07-2009, 11:09 AM
New year, new team, we don't know what the problems are going to be.

Yeah.... 'cause struggling on an NHL size sheet isn't an issue that the team has had year in and year out for a while now

SCSU Euro
09-07-2009, 12:11 PM
Need some help from the older guys and gals:

Somebody started up a thread where you go through and come up with your school's best all-time team by number, so in other words you get one player from each typical hockey number 1-35. Problem is, I only started following the team in Fall of 2001, and the stats I can find only go a year ahead of that. I know that SCSU's had a lot of greats I've never seen play for SCSU, like Saterdalen, Matt Cullen, Paradise, Mark Parrish, Leitza, etc., but I have no idea of their jersey numbers. Was hoping maybe we could do a group effort on this list. Here's what I've got so far:

1- Meyer
3- G. Parrish
5- Eastman
6- Borer
7- Raboin (over J. Cullen)
8- Arnason
9- Sampair
10- Hendricks
12- Malone
13- Dicasmirro
16- LaMere
17- Gordon
19- Lasch (over Motzko)
22- Pudlick
23- Jensen
25- C-unti :D
27- Fletcher
30- Weasler
33- Hartigan

If anyone could help me out with either better candidates than I have, or filling in some of the holes (right if I filled in all the numbers, guys like Jason Montgomery and Mike Doyle would be making my all-time team :( ) it would be greatly appreciated.

scsutommyboy
09-07-2009, 01:20 PM
Need some help from the older guys and gals:

Somebody started up a thread where you go through and come up with your school's best all-time team by number, so in other words you get one player from each typical hockey number 1-35. Problem is, I only started following the team in Fall of 2001, and the stats I can find only go a year ahead of that. I know that SCSU's had a lot of greats I've never seen play for SCSU, like Saterdalen, Matt Cullen, Paradise, Mark Parrish, Leitza, etc., but I have no idea of their jersey numbers. Was hoping maybe we could do a group effort on this list. Here's what I've got so far:

1- Meyer
3- G. Parrish
5- Eastman
6- Borer
7- Raboin (over J. Cullen)
8- Arnason
9- Sampair
10- Hendricks
12- Malone
13- Dicasmirro
16- LaMere
17- Gordon
19- Lasch (over Motzko)
22- Pudlick
23- Jensen
25- C-unti :D
27- Fletcher
30- Weasler
33- Hartigan

If anyone could help me out with either better candidates than I have, or filling in some of the holes (right if I filled in all the numbers, guys like Jason Montgomery and Mike Doyle would be making my all-time team :( ) it would be greatly appreciated.

I think Matt Cullen was 11 and Parrish was 21. Tony gruba, George Awada, Dave Paradise and fred Knipscheer were some of my favorite players all time, but I don't remember their numbers.

edit: how about Jeff Finger and Duvie Wescott.

Slap Shot
09-07-2009, 01:48 PM
What, no Tim Hanus?

First Time, Long Time
09-07-2009, 03:37 PM
Yeah.... 'cause struggling on an NHL size sheet isn't an issue that the team has had year in and year out for a while now

Still doesn't mean it will be this year, one piece different can mean the world (look at our PP without Nodl for proof)


I think Matt Cullen was 11 and Parrish was 21. Tony gruba, George Awada, Dave Paradise and fred Knipscheer were some of my favorite players all time, but I don't remember there numbers.

edit: how about Jeff Finger and Duvie Wescott.

Cullen wore #9.
I'd add
Hedican for 24
Hartigan #3 (he wore 33 just one year)
Hanus #21
Saterdalen #14

scsutommyboy
09-07-2009, 03:49 PM
What, no Tim Hanus?

He was done before I showed up.

The Paragon of Virtue
09-07-2009, 04:19 PM
Yeah.... 'cause struggling on an NHL size sheet isn't an issue that the team has had year in and year out for a while now
So we should go in with massively lowered expectations and just expect Miami to sweep us since it's on an NHL rink? It's a brilliant plan. Afterward, we can make excuses about how the team never does well on NHL rinks and write the series off as a fluke.

The Boomer
09-07-2009, 06:58 PM
The Roster stuff:

Mark Parrish was also #21. Jeff Finger was #6 and then #8 when Tyler Aranson went to #39.

#47 was Bobby Goepert. Lenny Esau was #5. Both should be on the All-Number team! Fred Knipscheer was #25, I believe. Sandy Gasseau wore #44.

Gruba was another #13. Marc Gagnon wore #15.

Goaltender Craig Shermoen proudly wore #29.

While Joe Jensen deserves the #23 spot, one of my all time favorites wore that number--one of the toughest, hardest-hitting Huskies of all time, Jason Stewart.

SCSU Euro
09-07-2009, 07:48 PM
edit: how about Jeff Finger and Duvie Wescott.

Finger wore 8 three of his four years, and while he was one of my first favorite Huskies, he takes a backseat to Arnason. Westcott was number 10 as was Matt Hendricks. I put Hendrickjs on the list, but I never saw Westcott play, so if the consensus is Westcott > Hendricks, I'm fine with that change.



Hartigan #3 (he wore 33 just one year)


You sure? I can't find his freshman year, but he wore 33 as a sophomore, and 3 as a junior. I can't imagine he went from 3-33-3, especially because his freshman year was Geno Parrish's junior, and I thought Geno was 3 the whole time, so did he have a completely different number his freshman year? I assumed he was 33 for two years, 3 for the last, so in that logic, I'd have to leave him at 33.


So we should go in with massively lowered expectations and just expect Miami to sweep us since it's on an NHL rink? It's a brilliant plan. Afterward, we can make excuses about how the team never does well on NHL rinks and write the series off as a fluke.

Everybody calm down and get back in the boat. I never said Miami should sweep us, but tb said that we haven't played well on the road lately, and I agreed and said that we've been really bad on NHL sized rinks lately (getting swept in Grand Forks and multiple 5-1 losses to Duluth come to mind).


The Roster stuff:

Mark Parrish was also #21. Jeff Finger was #6 and then #8 when Tyler Aranson went to #39.

#47 was Bobby Goepert. Lenny Esau was #5. Both should be on the All-Number team! Fred Knipscheer was #25, I believe. Sandy Gasseau wore #44.


Unless USCHO is wrong or there was a midseason change, Arnason was #8 for his sophomore and junior years. Finger only wore 6 his first year, which was Arnason's last, so I'm assuming he was only 6 because 8 was occupied.

Also, Goepfert and Gasseau don't make the squad, because its only a "traditional" hockey numbers list.

SCSU Euro
09-07-2009, 09:12 PM
Ok, so I ended up finding a listing of all the D-1 SCSU players with their numbers, so here's what I've got. I am going to underline the ones that I'm hoping somebody can point out someone I've missed, because frankly, before 01/02 I'm basing this all off of what I've heard about them, and in many cases, purely offensive numbers, which obviously isn't how good a player was. Or, maybe with some of the older players, if they're underlined you guys may tell me that they're very deserving of their spot on this fictious team.

1- Scott Meyer
2-Gino Santerre
3- Mark Hartigan
4- Bill Lund
5- Len Esau
6- Kelly Hultgren
7- Fred Knipscheer
8- Tyler Arnason
9- Brandon Sampair
10- Duvie Westcott
11- Dave Ianazzo
12- Ryan Malone
13- Nate Dicasmirro
14- Jeff Saterdalen
15- Brian Cook
16- Ryan LaMere
17- Andrew Gordon
18- Brett Lievers
19- Joe Motzko
20- Billy Hengen
21- Tim Hanus
22- Taj Melson
23- Joe Jensen
24- Bret Hedican
25- Tom Lund
26- Dave Paradise
27- Justin Fletcher
28- Pat McGowan
29- Adam Coole
30- Dean Weasler
31- Brian Leitza
32- Brock Hooton
33- Peter Szabo
34-
35- Grant Sjerven

Thoughts:
- I couldn't find a single D-1 Husky to ever wear 34
- Ryan Malone switched numbers every year! He wore 15, 29, 12 and 6. Ultimately went with putting him down as 12 because its his NHL number.
- This list leaves off not only the greats who had untraditional names, but Mark Parrish, George Awada, Matt Cullen, Andreas Nodl, Tony Gruba and the Hendricks/Westcott loser because somebody with their number beat them out.
- I know Coole was only here a year, but I'll take his success here in a year over Shermoen's years
- I wish Lasch had stayed with 25, because we could really use a 25, and he's gonna bump Joe Motzko. :(

Current Huskies who could make this list one day:
Raboin (7) - This is a tough call, 'cause I know there's a lot of love for Knipscheer, but Raboin is pretty much the heart and soul of SCSU's D and special teams, and ultimately, I think he goes down as the greater Husky
Roe (9) - He'd be a slam-dunk in most numbers, but we're talking about a number that Matt Cullen isn't even first on the Huskies list, and this is not a given as I think a lot of younger fans think
Hanowski (10) - He's competing for a slot that's respectable but not an unattainable one
Festler (11) - He has shown flashes that he should end up being a much greater Husky than Ianazzo
Aaron Marvin (17) - After his sophomore year, he is well behind Gordon, but he gets so much better ever couple of weeks it seems. I think if he leaves a year early, there's no way he takes the 17 spot, but if he stays all four years and progresses at his exponential rate he's on, he could pass Andrew.
Ryan Lasch (19) - It pains me to say that all he has to do to pass Joe Motzko is not fall flat on his face for a full season.
Oliver Lauridsen (25) - Before you laugh at this one, look at who currently holds the spot. And as has been said on this forum time and time again, the Dane was brought here for his junior and senior seasons, not his first two.
Drew LeBlanc (29) - Part lack of a great current option (Adam Coole) and part a vote because I think he and Festler will emerge to be a level or two above their counterparts Christian and Novak.
Mike Lee (30) - Taking down Weasler would be quite an accomplishment, but he was brought here and expected to be better than Weasler.

The Paragon of Virtue
09-07-2009, 10:23 PM
You sure? I can't find his freshman year, but he wore 33 as a sophomore, and 3 as a junior. I can't imagine he went from 3-33-3, especially because his freshman year was Geno Parrish's junior, and I thought Geno was 3 the whole time, so did he have a completely different number his freshman year? I assumed he was 33 for two years, 3 for the last, so in that logic, I'd have to leave him at 33.
33-3-3 (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=49639)

Mark's freshman year was Geno's senior year. He wore #3 his sophomore and junior years.

First Time, Long Time
09-08-2009, 12:02 AM
I don't see how Geno is #3 ahead of Hartigan.

Dude Love
09-08-2009, 01:05 AM
I don't see how Geno is #3 ahead of Hartigan.

While Geno was a great captain for us, there's no way he should be on any list ahead of Hartigan. Well, other than "Most Hilarious Senior Night Haircut."

Is Rabib around? He should get on IM...I have a story for him.

The Paragon of Virtue
09-08-2009, 08:23 AM
Well, other than "Most Hilarious Senior Night Haircut."
I can never remember, but did he complete the look with a clown nose too?

Dude Love
09-08-2009, 11:49 AM
I can never remember, but did he complete the look with a clown nose too?

No...I think it was just the rainbow wig.

The Boomer
09-08-2009, 04:35 PM
Unless USCHO is wrong or there was a midseason change, Arnason was #8 for his sophomore and junior years. Finger only wore 6 his first year, which was Arnason's last, so I'm assuming he was only 6 because 8 was occupied.

Also, Goepfert and Gasseau don't make the squad, because its only a "traditional" hockey numbers list.

Thanks, Euro, for doing the leg work. My memory work is sometimes shakey.

Arnie, of course, was #8 and Finger #6 for the Huskies. Arnie wasn't #39 until the Blackhawk years.

You should change the #6 selection of Kelly Hultgren to The Fing. While Hultgren was a decent defenseman, not many defensemen in college hockey could hold a candle to Jeff Finger.

You also asked for an opinion on #10--Hendricks or Westcott. I would vote Duvie.

And I disagree with Coole over Shermoen--probably only because Shermoen was at the front end of D-I hockey, and he was a character. Not that Coole wasn't one, too!

And #44 and #47 are certainly "traditional" numbers!! Put them on the list! That's like leaving Gretzky off a list. :)

SCSU Euro
09-08-2009, 05:52 PM
I don't see how Geno is #3 ahead of Hartigan.

He isn't, just in the confusion of the 3 vs. 33, which I read wrong, I left him off both numbers.


Thanks, Euro, for doing the leg work. My memory work is sometimes shakey.

Arnie, of course, was #8 and Finger #6 for the Huskies. Arnie wasn't #39 until the Blackhawk years.

You should change the #6 selection of Kelly Hultgren to The Fing. While Hultgren was a decent defenseman, not many defensemen in college hockey could hold a candle to Jeff Finger.

You also asked for an opinion on #10--Hendricks or Westcott. I would vote Duvie.

And I disagree with Coole over Shermoen--probably only because Shermoen was at the front end of D-I hockey, and he was a character. Not that Coole wasn't one, too!

And #44 and #47 are certainly "traditional" numbers!! Put them on the list! That's like leaving Gretzky off a list. :)

Would love to give the Finger a spot, but he was only 6 for one season. Otherwise I'd throw Lasch in at 25, but I think that's circumventing the point of the list. And like I said, I never saw Westcott play, but I assumed he was better, I just didn't wanna do that without hearing so, 'cause Hendricks is probably my favorite Husky ever.

scsutommyboy
09-09-2009, 01:04 PM
He isn't, just in the confusion of the 3 vs. 33, which I read wrong, I left him off both numbers.



Would love to give the Finger a spot, but he was only 6 for one season. Otherwise I'd throw Lasch in at 25, but I think that's circumventing the point of the list. And like I said, I never saw Westcott play, but I assumed he was better, I just didn't wanna do that without hearing so, 'cause Hendricks is probably my favorite Husky ever.

Hendricks was your favorite Husky ever!:eek: Why?

Duvie was a better player Hultgren even though Kelly was a very good player. He could really run a power.