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scoreboard
11-16-2019, 09:41 PM
Captain Anthony “Not Very” Wyse. :(

HockeyRef
11-16-2019, 09:41 PM
7 penalties.... It was a great game overall but well our work is cut out for us scoring wise. Hats off to Maine onto MI. Sighhhh

Scott
11-16-2019, 09:43 PM
The song remains the same.

Nothing has changed with this team.
THEY. STILL. CAN'T. FINISH.
THEY. TAKE. DUMB. PENALTIES. AT. CRUCIAL. MOMENTS. OF. THE. GAME.

What a ****ty weekend for UNH sports. :mad::mad: :mad:
[(Ok...congrats to Mens soccer team for winning the AE title....but uh, that was kind of expected)

Enjoy the LONG ride home, Captain Tony.... :mad: :rolleyes:

Chuck Murray
11-16-2019, 09:46 PM
Anthony Wyse with a not-so-wise, totally avoidable penalty with just over 2 minutes left, leads to the game-tying goal. In OT, Max Gildon loses his man in transition, who nets the winner at the goalmouth.

Disappointing when your captain and your best player come up short when it mattered most.

It's a long season, hopefully this will be one of those learning moments for the program.

Thought it was interesting, seeing UMaine celebrating so enthusiastically. Then again, in moments like that, it's hard not to get excited, and if UNH had done the same to them, at the Whitt, I'm sure they'd have been pretty pumped. If nothing else, it shows the hunger exists there (as it does here) for a return to the big time. Maybe we can let someone else be "Champs of November". :) :D ;)

wildcatdc
11-16-2019, 09:46 PM
Dan's pre-weekend goal-scoring analysis - timely and spot-on.

Was absolutely a penalty. Can’t believe we put ourselves in that position

Dan
11-16-2019, 09:49 PM
Either way it costs them. As does a second consecutive one goal effort on offense...

Tonight’s goal was on the PP and last night’s was just after a penalty expired - so essentially this was an entire weekend without either a 5x5 goal or a single goal from anyone other than UNH’s top-six goal scorers...

Meanwhile - Maine received one goal each from its three big guns but also two first goals of the year in last night’s first and tonight’s winner. It would have been a very different weekend if a couple Wildcats had managed their first of the year...

Greg Ambrose
11-16-2019, 10:01 PM
Dan's pre-weekend goal-scoring analysis - timely and spot-on.

Was absolutely a penalty. Can’t believe we put ourselves in that position

Stating the obvious, but your captain can’t be taking penalties in the last 2-3 minutes of a one goal game. Stating the obvious redux, you aren’t going to win many games on the road, let alone at Alfond, scoring once per game. Really, I never thought I’d see this day in UNH Hockey. Can anyone make a play in the offensive zone?

Advance scouting report. I watched the Michigan-MSU game Thursday night and, frankly, UM is not very good. They’re big, but slow, prone to giveaways in their own zone and their goalie gave up two very bad goals. And to top it off, they had a 3-1 lead at home and lost 4-3. But notice, they did score three goals. Can UNH match that effort?

Snively65
11-16-2019, 10:13 PM
Agreed, cannot pin this OT loss on lack of depth scoring. Pathetic. Bad coaching; no discipline. :-(

Scott
11-16-2019, 10:13 PM
Stating the obvious, but your captain can’t be taking penalties in the last 2-3 minutes of a one goal game. Stating the obvious redux, you aren’t going to win many games on the road, let alone at Alfond, scoring once per game. Really, I never thought I’d see this day in UNH Hockey. Can anyone make a play in the offensive zone?

Advance scouting report. I watched the Michigan-MSU game Thursday night and, frankly, UM is not very good. They’re big, but slow, prone to giveaways in their own zone and their goalie gave up two very bad goals. And to top it off, they had a 3-1 lead at home and lost 4-3. But notice, they did score three goals. Can UNH match that effort?

Nope.

Hate to say it, but the Wolverines will sweep next weekend if our scoring anemia doesn't change.

Dan
11-16-2019, 10:55 PM
Advance scouting report. I watched the Michigan-MSU game Thursday night and, frankly, UM is not very good. They’re big, but slow, prone to giveaways in their own zone and their goalie gave up two very bad goals. And to top it off, they had a 3-1 lead at home and lost 4-3. But notice, they did score three goals. Can UNH match that effort?

If Michigan wasn’t a brand name, they’d have very little going for them. They’re bad. Talk about goal scoring problems - they did get three versus MSU (through two periods before blanking the next four) but they are averaging under 2 G/GM for the season and have only scored more than two goals once in their last seven games (more than one goal just twice in that span). For the season, they’ve scored zero or one goal in eight of their 12 outings and removing a weekend outburst of eight goals versus defensively challenged (understatement) Lake State, Michigan has scored 1.5 goals per game over their other ten contests. Their PP is hitting at only 11.8%...

UNH has had their offensive struggles - and this weekend was dismal. However, nearly UM’s entire season has looked like UNH’s weekend.

Unlike UNH they have no truly dangerous talent offensively - with the possible exception of Will Lockwood (who can’t catch a break in the health department and has missed three straight games). At this stage in their careers UM’s two top scorers, are really hard skating third liners - on a top team, at least; they’re young and gritty, but for now, not offensively gifted. That’s probably why BOTH are Bruins draft picks...

Defensively they’ve been solid - but outside of Western Michigan they’ve yet to play a team that was scoring more than UNH or had an equivalent PP (that is before UNH dipped, this weekend). Their goaltender is tiny and athletic, but hardly elite, and entirely dependent on how they play in front of him. UNH’s better players should be able to get him moving and they, as well as the PP, should have much more success next weekend...

Michigan’s PK is allowing goals 20% of the time overall and 30% of the time in their last six games. Maine’s PK is really strong. UNH should be much better on the advantage against UM - which is what they need right now, of course...

I’d expect UNH to bounce back - especially if Pierson can go - and frankly, any losses to UM would be disappointing. I’d be willing to bet UNH gets at least five or six goals next weekend and Robinson and the D should be able to handle UMs best efforts well enough. Three to four points and send them home...

UNH had a split in their grasp and could have easily played better against ME - but the Bears proved a bad match-up with their size and physicality (and UNH failed to adjust as needed). The game will open up much more next weekend...

Snively65
11-16-2019, 11:50 PM
Agreed; anything less than a sweep of Wolverines at home unacceptable. Need wins, not ties, or I am doomed in the pre-season win total over/under contest. I might as well raise the white flag in my picking the over on the 89 season goals over/under contest (where did I get that 89 number, anyway?).

Dan
11-17-2019, 12:06 AM
Agreed; anything less than a sweep of Wolverines at home unacceptable. Need wins, not ties, or I am doomed in the pre-season win total over/under contest. I might as well raise the white flag in my picking the over on the 89 season goals over/under contest (where did I get that 89 number, anyway?).

I’m guessing you’re wondering if they’ll match or exceed last season’s total of 90, or not...

Bad weekend aside, I’m still on the over. Ninety goals over 34 regular season and two playoff games is just 2.5 G/GM.

walrus
11-17-2019, 07:57 AM
Thought it was interesting, seeing UMaine celebrating so enthusiastically. Then again, in moments like that, it's hard not to get excited, and if UNH had done the same to them, at the Whitt, I'm sure they'd have been pretty pumped. If nothing else, it shows the hunger exists there (as it does here) for a return to the big time. Maybe we can let someone else be "Champs of November". :) :D ;)

As bad as Maine has been the last 6 years sweeping anyone is cause for celebration. The fans will even takes champs of November :).

HockeyRef
11-17-2019, 08:35 AM
To score goals ya gotta have those "natural goal scorers" and those who make plays. Surely we have the talent to do that? For me it was players Goumas and most notably TyK.

If MI is as bad as Dan and Greg say they are then I would expect some points on the board this coming weekend. Whatever the issue is I believe we can figure it out. GO 'CATS!!!

Chuck Murray
11-17-2019, 08:46 AM
As bad as Maine has been the last 6 years sweeping anyone is cause for celebration. The fans will even takes champs of November :).

Good to see you on here, Wally. It's been awhile. :)

It's funny … back in the old days, if UNH had celebrated any win(s) like that on their home ice in November, the razzing for the "Champs of November" behavior would have been ruthless - and rightfully so, I might add. I can't even conceive of a Walshy team taking a victory lap or two after a regular season game. But there it was, last night, in living color at Alfond Arena. My, how times have changed.

I guess, which then begs the question … if UNH-UMaine is going to be viewed by both schools as this huge rivalry game … why are those games being played before Thanksgiving? :confused:

Maybe the new commissioner will figure out a way to capitalize better on what should be true "rivalry" games, which frankly is only one of dozens of things the outgoing guy never quite figured out. Just because The Beanpot (and its late-season timing) arguably neuters chances of piling on more BC v. BU v. Northeastern RS games down the stretch run, doesn't mean HE should ignore other rivalries in the league that would be better-positioned with some added meaning/importance down the stretch? I can't be the only one who would like to be seeing a regular late RS diet of UNH/UMaine/UVM games, no? Ditto, why not the Merrimack/UML/UMA grouping? UConn/UMA/Providence?? Or even post-Beanpot match-ups between the Boston schools?

It's just crazy, if the UNH-UMaine "rivalry" thing is anywhere near legit, why be playing it this soon? Crazy ...

Otherwise. just annoyed how last night's game ended. Any post-game comments from MS7?

e.cat
11-17-2019, 09:27 AM
According to my calculations, since 1984, UNH is 16-31-8 in games played up in Orono including 8 weekend sweeps by Maine. It is no surprise to me that UNH got swept up there this weekend. It's just a tough place to play on the road and not a cause for major concern IMHO. It's disappointing for sure especially since UNH should have won that game last night.

On to Michigan!

PS. I agree with Chuck that the scheduling of these games needs to be looked at. I particularly do no like the back to back games on one or the other campus.

HockeyRef
11-17-2019, 09:30 AM
Good to see you on here, Wally. It's been awhile. :)

It's funny … back in the old days, if UNH had celebrated any win(s) like that on their home ice in November, the razzing for the "Champs of November" behavior would have been ruthless - and rightfully so, I might add. I can't even conceive of a Walshy team taking a victory lap or two after a regular season game. But there it was, last night, in living color at Alfond Arena. My, how times have changed.

I guess, which then begs the question … if UNH-UMaine is going to be viewed by both schools as this huge rivalry game … why are those games being played before Thanksgiving? :confused:

Maybe the new commissioner will figure out a way to capitalize better on what should be true "rivalry" games, which frankly is only one of dozens of things the outgoing guy never quite figured out. Just because The Beanpot (and its late-season timing) arguably neuters chances of piling on more BC v. BU v. Northeastern RS games down the stretch run, doesn't mean HE should ignore other rivalries in the league that would be better-positioned with some added meaning/importance down the stretch? I can't be the only one who would like to be seeing a regular late RS diet of UNH/UMaine/UVM games, no? Ditto, why not the Merrimack/UML/UMA grouping? UConn/UMA/Providence?? Or even post-Beanpot match-ups between the Boston schools?

It's just crazy, if the UNH-UMaine "rivalry" thing is anywhere near legit, why be playing it this soon? Crazy ...

Otherwise. just annoyed how last night's game ended. Any post-game comments from MS7?

Bangor Daily News ran a quick story but no comments from either coach. Looking forward to the Wednesday presser.

On another note even with the lack of.scoring I was impressed with a couple of 3rd line players who are so close to knocking on the door. And I think we will find Engaras to make things happen too!! Still lots of hockey to play GO 'CATS!!

HockeyRef
11-17-2019, 09:38 AM
According to my calculations, since 1984, UNH is 16-31-8 in games played up in Orono including 8 weekend sweeps by Maine. It is no surprise to me that UNH got swept up there this weekend. It's just a tough place to play on the road and not a cause for major concern IMHO. It's disappointing for sure especially since UNH should have won that game last night.

On to Michigan!

PS. I agree with Chuck that the scheduling of these games needs to be looked at. I particularly do no like the back to back games on one or the other campus.

That's a great outlook sir!! I read that Maine owns a winning record over UNH overall. Playing up there is a challenge for any team. Think it was 5 years or so ago that Maine won all/most of their home games but lost most / many of their games on the road? (If I have that right)

Having been to all HE arenas (with the exception of when NICC was in the league) there's "no place like Alfond Arena". Would agree the scheduling of these games was too early so maybe next year its different.. GO 'CATS!!

Snively65
11-17-2019, 10:45 AM
Good to see you on here, Wally. It's been awhile. :)

It's funny … back in the old days, if UNH had celebrated any win(s) like that on their home ice in November, the razzing for the "Champs of November" behavior would have been ruthless - and rightfully so, I might add. I can't even conceive of a Walshy team taking a victory lap or two after a regular season game. But there it was, last night, in living color at Alfond Arena. My, how times have changed.

I guess, which then begs the question … if UNH-UMaine is going to be viewed by both schools as this huge rivalry game … why are those games being played before Thanksgiving? :confused:

Maybe the new commissioner will figure out a way to capitalize better on what should be true "rivalry" games, which frankly is only one of dozens of things the outgoing guy never quite figured out. Just because The Beanpot (and its late-season timing) arguably neuters chances of piling on more BC v. BU v. Northeastern RS games down the stretch run, doesn't mean HE should ignore other rivalries in the league that would be better-positioned with some added meaning/importance down the stretch? I can't be the only one who would like to be seeing a regular late RS diet of UNH/UMaine/UVM games, no? Ditto, why not the Merrimack/UML/UMA grouping? UConn/UMA/Providence?? Or even post-Beanpot match-ups between the Boston schools?

It's just crazy, if the UNH-UMaine "rivalry" thing is anywhere near legit, why be playing it this soon? Crazy ...

Otherwise. just annoyed how last night's game ended. Any post-game comments from MS7?

Last two years all games with Maine in January and February, along with the MBPBEGAM sweep by Bears in Orono.

BlackI
11-17-2019, 11:07 AM
Bangor Daily News ran a quick story but no comments from either coach. Looking forward to the Wednesday presser.

On another note even with the lack of.scoring I was impressed with a couple of 3rd line players who are so close to knocking on the door. And I think we will find Engaras to make things happen too!! Still lots of hockey to play GO 'CATS!!

Bangor daily must have revised it since it has quotes from Souza and Wyse now... along with Maine players and Gendron.
https://bangordailynews.com/2019/11/16/sports/umaine-sports/umaine-hockey-team-scores-late-to-tie-it-beats-new-hampshire-in-overtime/?amp=1