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4four4
07-03-2019, 05:09 PM
Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey (https://www.twincities.com/2019/06/27/iowa-nebraska-are-possibilities-for-big-ten-hockey/)

Pioneer Press

First of Three Part Series

ExileOnDaytonStreet
07-03-2019, 05:40 PM
Kind of overstating the likelihood in Lincoln.

solovsfett
07-03-2019, 05:46 PM
What a non-starter. Both schools *could* potentially add hockey but no-one is talking about it seriously and Omaha would raise holy hell if Lincoln got a team.

Maybe the B10 should first figure out their massive attendance problems at UW and Minnesota before thinking about adding teams no-one would care about outside of those campuses.

davyd83
07-03-2019, 06:17 PM
I read these last week and know the author well. The headline attached by the Strib is very misleading. This was actually the third of the series titled, “Big Ten Hockey, Part 3: Which school is next to join?

FadeToBlack&Gold
07-03-2019, 08:28 PM
Let us know when they get a donor to endow $100 million for a program. Until then, it's all bunk.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
07-04-2019, 02:28 AM
Don’t think you’d need 100 million at a school with a usable rink.

Split-N
07-04-2019, 09:21 AM
...Omaha would raise holy hell if Lincoln got a team...

Why? Wouldn't UNO-UNL become an instant rivalry that would work for both programs? Take a look at the Greater Boston area: Four D1 teams within a six-mile radius (five and an extra mile or so if you want to include Bentley). The respective fan bases may loathe and despise one another but the net effect is to raise hockey consciousness all around. What would be so different in Eastern Nebraska?

davyd83
07-04-2019, 09:41 AM
Why? Wouldn't UNO-UNL become an instant rivalry that would work for both programs? Take a look at the Greater Boston area: Four D1 teams within a six-mile radius (five and an extra mile or so if you want to include Bentley). The respective fan bases may loathe and despise one another but the net effect is to raise hockey consciousness all around. What would be so different in Eastern Nebraska?

One, Boston is a vastly larger market than Omaha and/or Lincoln. Two, Omaha is a very loyal University of Nebraska area is most aspects.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
07-04-2019, 11:11 AM
I don’t know what UNO could actually _do_ about it if Nebraska wanted a program.

The Rube
07-04-2019, 11:38 AM
The whole Iowa thing is a joke. Yes, they built a new arena. Know where the hockey team was playing before? A shopping mall. And not a really great shopping mall, to boot. No one cares about hockey down there. It's football and wrestling.

MadCityRich
07-04-2019, 12:21 PM
The whole Iowa thing is a joke.

There are 5 USHL teams in Iowa and another in Omaha on the IA/NE border. I have NO idea if that would translate to hockey in Iowa City, but the USHL wouldn't be there if there wasn't interest in the state.

davyd83
07-04-2019, 12:31 PM
The whole Iowa thing is a joke. Yes, they built a new arena. Know where the hockey team was playing before? A shopping mall. And not a really great shopping mall, to boot. No one cares about hockey down there. It's football and wrestling.

The USHL teams all draw fairly well and the AHL team averages 6400 a night.

aparch
07-04-2019, 01:15 PM
It's also the third AHL franchise in a decade in Iowa...

AkSarBen
07-04-2019, 01:28 PM
Nebraska's administration gets this question fairly regularly and the response is always the same, that men's sports are all underperforming and they'd rather focus on making football, basketball, and baseball competitive than invest in yet another sport to be mediocre in.


Why? Wouldn't UNO-UNL become an instant rivalry that would work for both programs? Take a look at the Greater Boston area: Four D1 teams within a six-mile radius (five and an extra mile or so if you want to include Bentley). The respective fan bases may loathe and despise one another but the net effect is to raise hockey consciousness all around. What would be so different in Eastern Nebraska?
It would work for both programs if UNO had a strong and supportive fanbase. Sadly, that's really not the case, since most UNO grads end up becoming Jayskers (Nebraska football/Creighton basketball fans) or Husker faithful after they graduate. Right now UNO is the big ticket for hockey in the state of Nebraska. If Nebraska starts a hockey program you'd see UNO's fanbase evaporate overnight as the T-shirt fan alums run screaming towards UNL. The sports media in Omaha is also loaded with Lincoln J-school grads that take their Husker fandom with them to work every day. One of the main sportswriters in town, Sam Mckeown, even went on the radio during the D1 transition and said UNO should drop all athletics because they don't get good volleyball attendance.
UNO's making good strides in this regard and the move to all sports for D1 has been really good for them when it comes to breaking this, but it's still 20 years too early for UNO. If Lincoln started a program tomorrow UNO would end up dropping hockey within a decade. Hockey in Omaha's already taken a major hit due to Creighton basketball. It used to be the #3 sport in town, and between the Mavericks and Lancers hockey attendance has dropped by over half in the last 15-20 years.

Handyman
07-04-2019, 01:38 PM
The whole Iowa thing is a joke. Yes, they built a new arena. Know where the hockey team was playing before? A shopping mall. And not a really great shopping mall, to boot. No one cares about hockey down there. It's football and wrestling.

That isnt true. Hockey does decent there. That said Iowa is not getting a team.

davyd83
07-04-2019, 01:52 PM
It's also the third AHL franchise in a decade in Iowa...

The Iowa Stars/Chops were one franchise. They ran into trouble with the AHL due to some shady bank dealings. The franchise was sold and moved to the Austin, TX area. The current Iowa Wild are the former Houston Aeros.

The Rube
07-04-2019, 07:26 PM
There are 5 USHL teams in Iowa and another in Omaha on the IA/NE border. I have NO idea if that would translate to hockey in Iowa City, but the USHL wouldn't be there if there wasn't interest in the state.

This part. This is the key part.

duluthguy
07-05-2019, 04:58 PM
Iowa, Nebraska are possibilities for Big Ten hockey (https://www.twincities.com/2019/06/27/iowa-nebraska-are-possibilities-for-big-ten-hockey/)

Star Tribune

First of Three Part Series

Let's give credit where credit is due. This article appeared on twincities.com, which is the website of the St. Paul Pioneer Press, not Star Tribune.

4four4
07-07-2019, 12:58 AM
Let's give credit where credit is due. This article appeared on twincities.com, which is the website of the St. Paul Pioneer Press, not Star Tribune.

I fixed it.

4four4
07-07-2019, 01:07 AM
Hockey at Illinois would be a win-win for Illini, Big Ten Conference (https://www.twincities.com/2019/06/26/hockey-at-illinois-would-be-a-win-win-for-illini-big-ten-conference/)
Pioneer Press

I also posted this in the Illini thread.