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GTOWN
04-19-2019, 01:31 PM
Looks like it's official (or will be as of May 1st!):

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/di-council-adopts-rules-curb-early-recruiting

vicb
04-19-2019, 01:42 PM
So do the Women's Coaches follow the Men's Ice Hockey Rules or the other rules?

TonyTheTiger20
04-19-2019, 01:52 PM
From what I understand this does not apply to women's hockey, which is pretty obnoxious.

GTOWN
04-19-2019, 01:53 PM
So do the Women's Coaches follow the Men's Ice Hockey Rules or the other rules?

the way I read it is that the men's rules only apply to men because of junior hockey. Here's another article from the College Hockey News:

https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2019/04/19_NCAA-Approves-Sweeping-Changes.php

FiveHoleFrenzy
04-19-2019, 02:58 PM
Sounds like the women's side is still to be determined...

https://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/1014300

Timothy A
04-19-2019, 03:13 PM
Sounds like the women's side is still to be determined...

https://www.youthhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/1014300

So basically every recruit will be waiting for UW, UM, BC and Clarkson to contact them. When they don't get that call, they'll pick the best of the rest 20 offers they have.

D2D
04-20-2019, 01:30 AM
So basically every recruit will be waiting for UW, UM, BC and Clarkson to contact them. When they don't get that call, they'll pick the best of the rest 20 offers they have.
Not unlike other D1 sports, where everyone wants to become the next big star on a traditional powerhouse.

ARM
04-20-2019, 11:32 AM
So basically every recruit will be waiting for UW, UM, BC and Clarkson to contact them. When they don't get that call, they'll pick the best of the rest 20 offers they have.It might not have as much impact on Clarkson recruits, given that many of them are already on D-I rosters. ;)

Timothy A
04-20-2019, 05:18 PM
It might not have as much impact on Clarkson recruits, given that many of them are already on D-I rosters. ;)

Poking the Fightin' Nurses. I like it!

D2D
04-22-2019, 03:55 PM
From our Gopher booster club newsletter:

The proposal for most sports, including women's ice hockey, would allow communication – either from or to a coach – starting June 15 after the sophomore year of high school, and would allow visits beginning August 1 before the junior year of high school. National Letter of Intent signing would remain in November of a student's senior year of high school.

The recruiting proposals will become effective at the close of the Division I Board of Directors meeting on Wednesday, May 1.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/di-council-adopts-rules-curb-early-recruiting

D2D
04-23-2019, 12:09 AM
A graphic that shows the new women's recruiting rules in a nutshell.

https://twitter.com/WCHA_WHockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweete mbed%7Ctwterm%5E1120472490482991104&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwi tter.min.html%231120472490482991104

Tiger89
04-25-2019, 12:02 PM
What if a player already has an offer from a college? Do they have to wait until June 15th sophomore to accept if they don't accept before May 1 of this year?

Timothy A
04-25-2019, 12:27 PM
What if a player already has an offer from a college? Do they have to wait until June 15th sophomore to accept if they don't accept before May 1 of this year?

I would think accept while you still can before this kicks in, unless you believe that better offers will come later on, then you wait.

D2D
04-30-2019, 05:21 PM
Gophers coach Brad Frost weighs in on the new recruiting rules:

College hockey coaches welcome new recruiting timeline
http://www.startribune.com/college-hockey-coaches-welcome-new-recruiting-timeline/509239612/


New rules for college hockey recruiting

Men: No contact between coaches and recruits until Jan. 1 of a recruit’s sophomore year. Under previous rules, recruits could initiate contact at any time. Verbal offers cannot be extended until Aug. 1 before a recruit’s junior year. Old rules allowed coaches to extend offers at any time.

Women: No contact — or verbal offers from coaches — until June 15 after a recruit’s sophomore year. It’s later than men’s because women’s college hockey doesn’t have major junior leagues for players.

Offsides Guy
05-01-2019, 10:08 AM
This an area where Frost and his staff have been disappointing. He talks a lot about character and their program "pillars" and yet he has taken more than his share of very young recruit commitments even though he says he thinks it's not the right thing to do. In the article he says the rule change is "healthy". This suggests he thinks the recruitment of, say, 8th graders is unhealthy yet he made sure to get a few in before the rule changed. He did the same thing last spring ahead of the rule re unofficial visits going into play. If you don't like the way something is being done, then you don't do it - even if it may disadvantage your program. That's character.

I realize WI and others have had early commitments as well. I'm just more peeved about Frost because I've heard him talk in the past about how he doesn't like the idea of teams recruiting so early. It's the hypocrisy that grates on me.

FiveHoleFrenzy
05-01-2019, 10:31 AM
This an area where Frost and his staff have been disappointing. He talks a lot about character and their program "pillars" and yet he has taken more than his share of very young recruit commitments even though he says he thinks it's not the right thing to do. In the article he says the rule change is "healthy". This suggests he thinks the recruitment of, say, 8th graders is unhealthy yet he made sure to get a few in before the rule changed. He did the same thing last spring ahead of the rule re unofficial visits going into play. If you don't like the way something is being done, then you don't do it - even if it may disadvantage your program. That's character.

I realize WI and others have had early commitments as well. I'm just more peeved about Frost because I've heard him talk in the past about how he doesn't like the idea of teams recruiting so early. It's the hypocrisy that grates on me.

If you're peeved and things are grating on you, then maybe you should exit stage left on the bit...It would be better for your health.

KTDC
05-01-2019, 10:46 AM
If you don't like the way something is being done, then you don't do it - even if it may disadvantage your program. That's character.



:rolleyes:

Brad Frost refused to martyr himself on the pyre of early recruiting. Did he do the right thing or the wrong thing?
-I don't know, I think he was probably right to swim in the pool he was in.

Should he have given up any talk of character around his program, himself, or his players because of that refusal?
-lol

Offsides Guy
05-01-2019, 12:52 PM
:rolleyes:
Should he have given up any talk of character around his program, himself, or his players because of that refusal?
-lol

To the contrary. He should keep talking and promoting character. He just should do a better job of walking the talk in this area. And he has a chance to do that by not trying to find "...some loophole to try to circumvent the rule..." as he discusses in the article...even if his competitors go that route...

Ahockeydad
05-01-2019, 02:39 PM
most college coaches we have run into have followed the rules in place. I donít know any that would not take top talent at a young age. This is a very competitive sport with little room for error. Much of the top talent not that separated from the 2nd tier if you will. Are they talking out of 2 sides of their mouth. Of course.

Do these rules affect recruits in Canada and Europe?

Fiveholio
05-01-2019, 02:48 PM
This an area where Frost and his staff have been disappointing. He talks a lot about character and their program "pillars" and yet he has taken more than his share of very young recruit commitments even though he says he thinks it's not the right thing to do. In the article he says the rule change is "healthy". This suggests he thinks the recruitment of, say, 8th graders is unhealthy yet he made sure to get a few in before the rule changed. He did the same thing last spring ahead of the rule re unofficial visits going into play. If you don't like the way something is being done, then you don't do it - even if it may disadvantage your program. That's character.

I realize WI and others have had early commitments as well. I'm just more peeved about Frost because I've heard him talk in the past about how he doesn't like the idea of teams recruiting so early. It's the hypocrisy that grates on me.

If you disadvantage your program you are putting everyone around you at risk. assistant coaches, players, admin etc. That would be bad character wouldn't it? If your thrown into a pond you have to swim with the other fish. Sometimes doing what everyone else is doing is the best way to get things done. The bigger programs have all said they wanted the rules to change and when they started recruiting the same way, everyone took notice and now there is change. Maybe everyone thought, now UM,UW and the likes are doing it so now we have to change the rules? I would think that the new rules will benefit the big schools? I think Frost was being genuine when he said the rules needed to change.