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ExileOnDaytonStreet
04-17-2019, 10:00 PM
Great...another empty Midwest regional venue.


Only one West/Midwest regional session has drawn a larger announced attendance than the 9,968 the Kohl Center had for the 2008 Midwest semifinals. That was Minnesota-North Dakota in the 2012 regional final at Xcel (10,974).

You were saying?

Biddco
04-17-2019, 10:02 PM
You were saying?

I was assuming Wisconsin continues to underwhelm and not make the tournament. :D

ExileOnDaytonStreet
04-17-2019, 10:04 PM
I was assuming Wisconsin continues to underwhelm and not make the tournament. :D

Hope springs eternal, since we will all probably commit seppuku if this continues.

dxmnkd316
04-17-2019, 11:34 PM
I’d go to Madison in a heartbeat if the goofs made it.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
04-19-2019, 10:02 AM
Well, Loveland is the big winner.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
04-19-2019, 10:05 AM
https://www.ncaa.com/news/icehockey-men/article/2019-04-18/ncaa-announces-di-mens-ice-hockey-regional-sites-2020-and

2020:
NE: Worcester
East: Albany
MW: Allentown
West: Loveland

2021:
NE: Manchester
East: Bridgeport
MW: Fargo
West: Loveland

If you need any more indication that the NCAA cares more about neutrality than people actually showing up…

ticapnews
04-19-2019, 10:22 AM
https://www.ncaa.com/news/icehockey-men/article/2019-04-18/ncaa-announces-di-mens-ice-hockey-regional-sites-2020-and

2020:
NE: Worcester
East: Albany
MW: Allentown
West: Loveland

2021:
NE: Manchester
East: Bridgeport
MW: Fargo
West: Loveland

If you need any more indication that the NCAA cares more about neutrality than people actually showing up…

Who else out west bid?

The NCAA better hope Denver makes it both years...

pmcdonald
04-19-2019, 10:27 AM
No Portland, Maine! Too bad. Would have been a fun City for a Regional. I guess the $30+ million renovation to the Arena a couple of years ago didn't make the grade. Time for Portland to think about building a new modern arena.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
04-19-2019, 10:29 AM
Who else out west bid?

The NCAA better hope Denver makes it both years...

The only losing bid that I’m aware of was the Badgers hosting in Madison. I think that Schlossman reported a UND bid, but now I can’t recall if that would’ve been the winning Fargo bid or if they had submitted any others (Sioux Falls or Grand Forks).

J.D.
04-19-2019, 10:33 AM
At least if UND doesn't make it chances are you can get a Minnesota team or two to Fargo. But if Denver finally runs into a stretch where they miss a tourney or two? Good luck with Loveland.

RaceBoarder
04-19-2019, 10:37 AM
So next year, any teams from the Midwest are flying somewhere no matter what...

As mentioned, Denver's fanbase is going to be needed for this plan to have any shot at succeeding... I can't work out the numbers to where this is a financially viable option for the arena **shrug**.

J.D.
04-19-2019, 10:39 AM
I suppose Loveland could still work in 2020 if Denver doesn't make it provided North Dakota actually makes the tourney and you can get them there.

J.D.
04-19-2019, 10:44 AM
I am enjoying all the donkeys on Twitter complaining about Allentown not being in the Midwest. Give it up already. Midwest is just a name at this point.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
04-19-2019, 10:54 AM
Allentown is the least objectionable location, IMO.

ticapnews
04-19-2019, 10:57 AM
So next year, any teams from the Midwest are flying somewhere no matter what...

As mentioned, Denver's fanbase is going to be needed for this plan to have any shot at succeeding... I can't work out the numbers to where this is a financially viable option for the arena **shrug**.

Break even attendance is around 2500. Best case scenario is a capacity crowd that averages about $30/person on concessions, parking and souvenirs and even then the organizers are looking at ~$130,000 profit. The only way this works in almost any western city (and many in the east) is if you are able to get funding from the local CoC or a tourism group in town. All those people will need hotels, food and things to do when not watching hockey. Of course the area is already lousy with tourists since this is ski country. Loveland Ski Area is open into May. Will many locals be that excited about a hockey tournament when they're busy with an already robust tourism industry? I guess we'll see next March.

J.D.
04-19-2019, 11:01 AM
Would be nice to see them scale back the ticket prices but doubt that's in the cards.

dxmnkd316
04-19-2019, 11:13 AM
Would be nice to see them scale back the ticket prices but doubt that's in the cards.

The gophers dropped season ticket prices by $200, though some areas with donations are going up. My seats dropped $100/ea. It's a problem that's being recognized by at least one premier program. I would be surprised if it's not being at least discussed. I'd put the chance at it happening at about 25%, so it's still pretty unlikely.

dxmnkd316
04-19-2019, 11:14 AM
Allentown is the least objectionable location, IMO.

Was kind of hoping for a madison regional.

ExileOnDaytonStreet
04-19-2019, 11:15 AM
Was kind of hoping for a madison regional.

That they lost is the lead indicator that they care more about neutrality than revenue.

Which is a shame, since the selection committee doesn’t feel the same way.

John J. MacInnes
04-19-2019, 11:19 AM
By my count, the distance between the "Midwest" Regional and the West Regional is 1,708 miles.

That also means there are only FIVE west schools within 500 miles of a regional site:

Allentown - 164 to Penn State, 448 to Ohio State (next closest 510 to BGSU)
Loveland - 40 to Denver, 120 to Colorado College & Air Force Academy (next closest 530 to Omaha)

Another big F U to the west. What a joke.