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John J. MacInnes
04-19-2019, 02:11 PM
It does punish the player as it artificially increases their scholarship time. With a standard transfer, they have a one year sit out penalty, but get to practice with the team. With the proposed grad transfer rule, said player could come in and play, but the team would take a scholarship loss the next year.

If you were a coach and knew you could get an average to above average player on your team for one year, but have to give up a scholarship spot for next year, would you be willing to pay that price? My answer would be no nine times out of ten. It is a short term solution with a price that hurts your future. That is an unfair cost/punishment on a grad transfer.

All the drawbacks you listed are for the program, not the individual. How does increasing scholarship time 'hurt' a player?

gfmorris
04-19-2019, 02:38 PM
All the drawbacks you listed are for the program, not the individual. How does increasing scholarship time 'hurt' a player?

I would presume that his inference is that this would inhibit schools' willingness to take on graduate transfers, limiting opportunities for these young men.

GFM

Lost_Husky
04-19-2019, 03:29 PM
I would presume that his inference is that this would inhibit schools' willingness to take on graduate transfers, limiting opportunities for these young men.

GFM

Yes.

From a program prospective with the proposed rule, a new recruit (no penalty)> transfer (first year ineligible)>> grad transfer (2nd year loss of player and scholarship). If I were a coach, I would much rather take a transfer that has to sit out a year, but can still practice than a kid who can play right away and lose a scholarship for the next season. This makes grad transfers undesirable.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/research/prevalence-graduate-transfer-division-i

Above is a report from the NCAA about grad transfers. They are worried about "...534 graduate transfers identified in the 2017 Division I academic performance data out of nearly 110,000 Division I student-athletes, which equates to just under one-half of 1 percent."

gfmorris
04-19-2019, 03:50 PM
This seems like a solution in search of a problem.

GFM

redwing61
04-20-2019, 11:47 AM
A brief update from the "Where Are They Now?" files:

Eli Vlaisavljevich is an assistant professor in the Department of Biomedical Engineering and Mechanics at Virginia Tech.

https://beam.vt.edu/people/faculty/vlaisavljevich.html

Huskiefan906
04-20-2019, 12:24 PM
Brad Stebner has also made it big, Emergency Medical Resident in Kelowna.

Love to see the college hockey guys make it big outside the game as well!

John J. MacInnes
04-21-2019, 07:38 AM
Yes.

From a program prospective with the proposed rule, a new recruit (no penalty)> transfer (first year ineligible)>> grad transfer (2nd year loss of player and scholarship). If I were a coach, I would much rather take a transfer that has to sit out a year, but can still practice than a kid who can play right away and lose a scholarship for the next season. This makes grad transfers undesirable.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/research/prevalence-graduate-transfer-division-i

Above is a report from the NCAA about grad transfers. They are worried about "...534 graduate transfers identified in the 2017 Division I academic performance data out of nearly 110,000 Division I student-athletes, which equates to just under one-half of 1 percent."


Apparently you've failed to notice that the NCAA is almost NEVER about the best interest of the players.

FadeToBlack&Gold
04-21-2019, 01:09 PM
Apparently you've failed to notice that the NCAA is almost NEVER about the best interest of the players.

All about the Benjamins.

manurespreader
04-21-2019, 08:24 PM
All about the Benjamins.
Yep. This is why I like Tech hockey so much. The staff from the AD on down really look out for the welfare of the players. That is not true at many other places. Especially in the east.

giwan
04-22-2019, 08:27 AM
Next JSH show?

Lost_Husky
04-22-2019, 08:42 AM
Apparently you've failed to notice that the NCAA is almost NEVER about the best interest of the players.

Nope, the NCAA is about $$. They view student athletes as cogs in its wheel. Why should we expect the National Collegiate Athletic Association to care about the collegiate athlete? Why should we expect them to care about punishing programs that have low graduation rates and poor academic performance? Why should they support student athletes who graduated with a "4 year" degree and decide to pursue a masters/doctorate and use the rest of their eligibility?

Oh wait! The NCAA doesn't care about student athletes and only cares about $$, programs that generate $$, and accommodating "amateur" athletes who can generate $$.

As stated, that is why I like Tech. They seem to care about students.

redwing61
04-25-2019, 05:03 PM
We have a new commitment for this fall: Logan Ganie, a point-per-game forward for Spruce Grove (AJHL) who turns 20 this summer.

http://www.sprucegrovesaints.ca/media-centre/news-archives.html?rYear=2019&nID=15390

The Troll mtu86
04-25-2019, 06:45 PM
We have a new commitment for this fall: Logan Ganie, a point-per-game forward for Spruce Grove (AJHL) who turns 20 this summer.

http://www.sprucegrovesaints.ca/media-centre/news-archives.html?rYear=2019&nID=15390

Sounds like a perfect fit.

rustedblades
04-26-2019, 11:11 PM
I am relatively certain that Gavin Gould is no longer a Husky.

FadeToBlack&Gold
04-26-2019, 11:13 PM
I am relatively certain that Gavin Gould is no longer a Husky.

I am relatively not surprised, and I can't say I'm happy with the way things went with him this past season.

rustedblades
04-26-2019, 11:14 PM
I am relatively not surprised.

I am disappointed. I loved his game.

FadeToBlack&Gold
04-26-2019, 11:15 PM
I am disappointed. I loved his game.

Yes, I agree. It was obvious he was not a fit for what Joe is trying to do, which sucks, but it's college sports.

Laker Dude
04-27-2019, 08:41 AM
I am relatively certain that Gavin Gould is no longer a Husky.

Gould is the player I heard was not coming back.

Checkmate
04-27-2019, 11:07 AM
Yes, I agree. It was obvious he was not a fit for what Joe is trying to do, which sucks, but it's college sports.

Can anyone explain what Joe is trying to do, please, doesn't make sense to me. I liked Gould's game too. But I would like an answer if someone has an idea. Change the "culture"?...... You mean the one that went to the NCAA three years in a row? I am 100% certain that the other teams in the league are happy Gavin is gone. Total Bummer. (that is an understatement) Hard to find hockey players like Gavin. SMH.

redwing61
04-27-2019, 11:57 AM
Can anyone explain what Joe is trying to do, please, doesn't make sense to me.

Players who have the complete package of skill, speed, work ethic and character are being recruited by every program. If you don't win your recruiting battles you have to take players who are not the complete package, so what is Joe inclined to sacrifice? It looks like the answer is skill, given his endless praise for Ray Brice and TJ Polglaze, coupled with his past criticism of Alex Petan and the apparent departure of Gavin Gould.

I don't think you can win with a team full of Brices and Polglazes, but we have some players and recruits who do seem to be more of a complete package. Guess we'll have a better idea how well it's working out when this past season's freshmen are seniors.