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vicb
03-17-2019, 06:04 PM
Take your pick. The WCHA vs the ECAC for the 2nd year in a row including your 2 time defending National Champion Clarkson Golden Knights (Had to get that one in twice ;) )

shelfit
03-17-2019, 06:28 PM
Take your pick. The WCHA vs the ECAC for the 2nd year in a row including your 2 time defending National Champion Clarkson Golden Knights (Had to get that one in twice ;) )

I voted for Cornell just because they are the obvious underdogs and I'm so tired of seeing all the WI and MN threads and posts throughout the year. I honestly read less than half the posts on those threads anymore because it's the same old whining or bragging over and over. With the long-standing success of those programs their recruiting is practically built-in in terms of attracting the top talent every year. How WI doesn't just crush their opponents almost every game throughout the season is beyond me. Crappy coaching I guess. Lol. But seriously, I think MJ is way overrated and Frostie is close behind.

Timothy A
03-17-2019, 07:09 PM
Lol. But seriously, I think MJ is way overrated and Frostie is close behind.

MJ for being an offensive dynamo coaches a very D first game. Does that make him a bad coach? No. In fact it makes him a great coach because the play such an awesome D game with very few errors on the players parts. The alternative is the BC way and that hasn't been proven to work at the FF. At least MJ's systems are getting them to the FF and the title game where they have an opportunity to win a title and they have won a few.

robertearle
03-17-2019, 08:58 PM
How WI doesn't just crush their opponents almost every game throughout the season is beyond me. Crappy coaching I guess. Lol. But seriously, I think MJ is way overrated and Frostie is close behind.

Isn't recruiting part of 'coaching'?

Still Eeyore
03-17-2019, 10:24 PM
I think Wisconsin is probably a slightly better team than Minnesota, but I give the Gophers a better chance to win this coming weekend because I also think that Clarkson is significantly better than Cornell (as long as Clarkson doesn't somehow mistake Wisconsin for Yale). If one of the choices was "Winner of Wisconsin/Clarkson semifinal," I'd probably take that.

Leather helmet
03-17-2019, 11:40 PM
I honestly read less than half the posts on those threads anymore because it's the same old whining or bragging over and over.

This post is not addressed to shelfit because he doesn’t read these posts, but if he did, he would realize that very few of the Wisconsin and Minnesota posts are either bragging or whining; they are an eclectic mix of good-natured trolling, serious analysis, and (according to ARM, anyway) bad jokes. Not much different than Happy Hour with the guys.

vicb
03-18-2019, 03:56 AM
This post is not addressed to shelfit because She doesn’t read these posts, but if She did, She would realize that very few of the Wisconsin and Minnesota posts are either bragging or whining; they are an eclectic mix of good-natured trolling, serious analysis, and (according to ARM, anyway) bad jokes. Not much different than Happy Hour with the guys.

Fixed your post (I think). :)

pgb-ohio
03-18-2019, 04:12 AM
My pick is Minnesota. All of us are influenced by our particular vantage point. In my head, I know that there's conflicting information out there -- including the result of the Final Face-Off Title Game. But of all of the NCAA teams that came to the OSU Ice Rink this year, the Gophers were the best.

They're just so deep at Forward. My gut says they can break through against the Badgers, and that they can outgun the Golden Knights.

Like others, I have no clear idea of what's going to happen in the intriguing Wisconsin/Clarkson semi.

Of course Cornell shouldn't be discounted. But I would be very surprised if they won two games at the 2019 FF.

shelfit
03-18-2019, 09:28 AM
Fixed your post (I think). :)

Aha, someone who pays attention to the little details. I thank you good sir. I'm guessing you were a hockey player...a good hockey player (in fact a good athlete in general) pays attention to the details. There's always been a clue in my screen name and it's a very obvious one....sort of hidden in plain sight. ;)

D2D
03-18-2019, 01:16 PM
Each of the team's worst loss(es) of the season (to teams not in the PairWise Top 12):

Cornell
Brown 3-4
Rensselaer 0-2

Minnesota
Minnesota-Duluth 2-3 (OT)

Clarkson
St. Lawrence 3-4 (OT)
Yale 1-5
Dartmouth 2-3 (OT)

Wisconsin
Bemidji State 1-2


Each of the team's best win(s) of the season (vs. teams in PairWise Top 12):

Cornell
Clarkson 3-1
Colgate 4-2
Colgate 4-2
Princeton 3-2 (2 OT)
Northeastern 3-2 (OT)

Minnesota
Minnesota-Duluth 5-2
Ohio State 3-0
Wisconsin 1-0
Minnesota-Duluth 4-3 (OT)
Wisconsin 3-1
Ohio State 7-2
Ohio State 7-1
Minnesota-Duluth 5-3
Minnesota-Duluth 4-1
Princeton 5-2

Clarkson
Minnesota Duluth 4-2
Minnesota Duluth 4-1
Princeton 3-1
Cornell 4-0
Princeton 5-2
Colgate 2-0
Cornell 4-1
Boston College 2-1 (OT)

Wisconsin
Minnesota Duluth 4-2
Minnesota Duluth 3-1
Princeton 4-3
Princeton 3-0
Minnesota 4-1
Ohio State 5-2
Minnesota 2-1
Minnesota Duluth 6-1
Minnesota Duluth 3-0
Ohio State 3-2
Minnesota 3-1

Blackbeard
03-18-2019, 02:13 PM
Each of the team's worst loss(es) of the season (to teams not in the PairWise Top 12):

Cornell
Brown 3-4
Rensselaer 0-2

Minnesota
Minnesota-Duluth 2-3 (OT)

Clarkson
St. Lawrence 3-4 (OT)
Yale 1-5
Dartmouth 2-3 (OT)

Wisconsin
Bemidji State 1-2


Each of the team's best win(s) of the season (vs. teams in PairWise Top 12):

Cornell
Clarkson 3-1
Colgate 4-2
Colgate 4-2
Princeton 3-2 (2 OT)
Northeastern 3-2 (OT)

Minnesota
Minnesota-Duluth 5-2
Ohio State 3-0
Wisconsin 1-0
Minnesota-Duluth 4-3 (OT)
Wisconsin 3-1
Ohio State 7-2
Ohio State 7-1
Minnesota-Duluth 5-3
Minnesota-Duluth 4-1
Princeton 5-2

Clarkson
Minnesota Duluth 4-2
Minnesota Duluth 4-1
Princeton 3-1
Cornell 4-0
Princeton 5-2
Colgate 2-0
Cornell 4-1
Boston College 2-1 (OT)

Wisconsin
Minnesota Duluth 4-2
Minnesota Duluth 3-1
Princeton 4-3
Princeton 3-0
Minnesota 4-1
Ohio State 5-2
Minnesota 2-1
Minnesota Duluth 6-1
Minnesota Duluth 3-0
Ohio State 3-2
Minnesota 3-1

The least you could have done would have been to include a warning: "The following post includes images that might be disturbing to some. Viewer discretion advised".

hab
03-18-2019, 04:16 PM
Cornell could be an upset winner. They have crazy-good offensive skills. Their weakness is that goaltending has been only average, and it is tough to win a championship at any level with average goaltending. If Boissonault can have a good weekend they will be tough!

Puckdrop14
03-18-2019, 05:01 PM
Cornell could be an upset winner. They have crazy-good offensive skills. Their weakness is that goaltending has been only average, and it is tough to win a championship at any level with average goaltending. If Boissonault can have a good weekend they will be tough!

Browning has been better and not sure why they would not start her other than the fact that Boissonault is more experienced.

Leather helmet
03-18-2019, 05:02 PM
Aha, someone who pays attention to the little details. I thank you good sir. I'm guessing you were a hockey player...a good hockey player (in fact a good athlete in general) pays attention to the details. There's always been a clue in my screen name and it's a very obvious one....sort of hidden in plain sight. ;)

Sorry shelfit; I did not mean to mis-pronoun you. I read all the posts, but apparently not very carefully.

hab
03-18-2019, 05:09 PM
I voted for Cornell just because they are the obvious underdogs and I'm so tired of seeing all the WI and MN threads and posts throughout the year. I honestly read less than half the posts on those threads anymore because it's the same old whining or bragging over and over. With the long-standing success of those programs their recruiting is practically built-in in terms of attracting the top talent every year. How WI doesn't just crush their opponents almost every game throughout the season is beyond me. Crappy coaching I guess. Lol. But seriously, I think MJ is way overrated and Frostie is close behind.

LOL! You are so predictable Shelfit. "Everybody has crappy coaching...." yadda yadda yadda.

robertearle
03-18-2019, 05:21 PM
LOL! You are so predictable Shelfit. "Everybody has crappy coaching...." yadda yadda yadda.

I understand the point she's trying to make, but - at least for the case of Wisconsin - it simply has no validity at all.

"With the long-standing success of those programs their recruiting is practically built-in in terms of attracting the top talent every year. How WI doesn't just crush their opponents almost every game throughout the season is beyond me. Crappy coaching I guess. Lol. But seriously, I think MJ is way overrated"

She's saying that being the UW coach in 2019 isn't hard because of the great recruits they get, and they get those recruits because of "the long-standing success of [the] program". And that may be to some extent true. But that means that much of the credit for 2019 should go to the guy who first turned the program into that "long-standing success", the guy who first got them to the point of winning conference championships, and into the NCAA tournament, and then winning some of those tournaments that led to the string of great recruits, etc..

And that guy's name is....

ARM
03-18-2019, 05:25 PM
Cornell could be an upset winner. They have crazy-good offensive skills. Their weakness is that goaltending has been only average, and it is tough to win a championship at any level with average goaltending. If Boissonault can have a good weekend they will be tough!Minnesota has been rather average in net as well. If it comes down to goaltenders as the decider, then advantage Clarkson. However, when Wisconsin is playing its best, it is just so tough to get a clean shot at the net, that it can hide some deficiencies.

Puckdrop14
03-18-2019, 05:35 PM
I understand the point she's trying to make, but - at least for the case of Wisconsin - it simply has no validity at all.

"With the long-standing success of those programs their recruiting is practically built-in in terms of attracting the top talent every year. How WI doesn't just crush their opponents almost every game throughout the season is beyond me. Crappy coaching I guess. Lol. But seriously, I think MJ is way overrated"

She's saying that being the UW coach in 2019 isn't hard because of the great recruits they get, and they get those recruits because of "the long-standing success of [the] program". And that may be to some extent true. But that means that much of the credit for 2019 should go to the guy who first turned the program into that "long-standing success", the guy who first got them to the point of winning conference championships, and into the NCAA tournament, and then winning some of those tournaments that led to the string of great recruits, etc..

And that guy's name is....

You could say the same about all four coaches heading to the Frozen Four couldn’t you?

robertearle
03-18-2019, 05:40 PM
You could say the same about all four coaches heading to the Frozen Four couldn’t you?

I think one could make a pretty good case that Frost took over a program with "long-standing success" and has *improved* on its performance.

(I don't know all that much about the other two, so I'll let others cover that.)

ARM
03-18-2019, 05:56 PM
Frost, Derosiers, and Johnson all took over programs that were coming off 20+ win seasons. Only Derraugh had to turn a team around. All four have improved on what they inherited.