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Chuck Murray
06-22-2019, 09:48 AM
is "german top prospect" anything like "tallest midget"?

Not according to Italian hockey superstar Mike Souza. :D

C-H-C
06-22-2019, 10:26 AM
We'll probably not meet Mr. Stutzle:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tim Stützle, German top prospect for the 2020 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NHLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NHLDraft</a>, says he'll announce where he'll play his draft season next week. <br><br>Sounds a lot like he's waiting for the right team to pick him in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CHLImportDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CHLImportDraft</a>. <a href="https://twitter.com/UNHMHOCKEY?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UNHMHOCKEY</a> commit w/ <a href="https://twitter.com/Musketeerhockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Musketeerhockey</a> holding his USHL rights.</p>&mdash; Janik Beichler (@JanikBeichler) <a href="https://twitter.com/JanikBeichler/status/1142154284286566401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

With his teammate Seider going 6th overall yesterday, must be a plus for the pro/draft path.

Moritz Seider demonstrated that Stützle doesn’t need to play major junior or USHL to prove he’s worthy of a first round NHL pick. He would get to stay home, play for Mannheim - the organization he knows well - graduate from a familiar high school, make a little money, and play for the German National Team.

HockeyRef
06-22-2019, 12:07 PM
Moritz Seider demonstrated that Stützle doesn’t need to play major junior or USHL to prove he’s worthy of a first round NHL pick. He would get to stay home, play for Mannheim - the organization he knows well - graduate from a familiar high school, make a little money, and play for the German National Team.

So are we now most likely speculating he will stay 'home' for his draft season? Good point about Moritz and it prob rings true for Stützle . That said hope he's still on track for us... Personally...wouldn't surprise me (although I would be disappointed). Even if he did come to UNH we'd prob only have him for a year at most which is par for the course with a player of his caliber. Still...UNH is a nice place to be for a year! ;)

NCAA watcher
06-22-2019, 12:10 PM
Moritz Seider demonstrated that Stützle doesn’t need to play major junior or USHL to prove he’s worthy of a first round NHL pick. He would get to stay home, play for Mannheim - the organization he knows well - graduate from a familiar high school, make a little money, and play for the German National Team.

Even with that path he'd be a pro and not going to UNH. But as you know, Beichler is connected, so the tweet is significant. And if he was willing to relocate to Sioux City to help his pro prospects, I imagine going to major junior city of his choice may be more appealing. Kudos to UNH in identifying him early, but he developed better than they expected.

Snively65
06-22-2019, 12:53 PM
Moritz Seider demonstrated that Stützle doesn’t need to play major junior or USHL to prove he’s worthy of a first round NHL pick. He would get to stay home, play for Mannheim - the organization he knows well - graduate from a familiar high school, make a little money, and play for the German National Team.

"....make a little money...."? But, then would he need to sit for a year-plus in Durham, like Engaras?

Dan
06-22-2019, 01:08 PM
"....make a little money...."? But, then would he need to sit for a year-plus in Durham, like Engaras?

If he doesn’t choose the USHL for next season, he’s not coming to UNH. The likely alternatives are a full season in either the CHL or the DEL (he’s not staying in the German U20 league that he just torched for 2.5+ PPG) and forgoing his eligibility...

Engaras played six games - Stutzle is looking for a full season destination.

C-H-C
06-22-2019, 01:27 PM
"....make a little money...."? But, then would he need to sit for a year-plus in Durham, like Engaras?

Sorry for the confusion. If Stützle follows the Seider route, he would not meet the NCAA standard for amateurism and would not be allowed to play college hockey. Last season, Seider played 29 regular season and 14 playoffs games for Adler Mannheim in the DEL, the top professional league in Germany. I can’t imagine the NCAA ever allowing a player with that resume to play college hockey.

According to Elite Prospects, Engaras played in 4 SHL games in the 2016-17 season and 2 in the 2017-18 season. The SHL is a Swedish professional league. That earned him a full season suspension from the NCAA plus another 9 games this season (currently under appeal). I assume 43 professional games in Europe would disqualify the player from the NCAA forever (though I’d love to be wrong).

HockeyRef
06-22-2019, 02:28 PM
Sorry for the confusion. If Stützle follows the Seider route, he would not meet the NCAA standard for amateurism and would not be allowed to play college hockey. Last season, Seider played 29 regular season and 14 playoffs games for Adler Mannheim in the DEL, the top professional league in Germany. I can’t imagine the NCAA ever allowing a player with that resume to play college hockey.

According to Elite Prospects, Engaras played in 4 SHL games in the 2016-17 season and 2 in the 2017-18 season. The SHL is a Swedish professional league. That earned him a full season suspension from the NCAA plus another 9 games this season (currently under appeal). I assume 43 professional games in Europe would disqualify the player from the NCAA forever (though I’d love to be wrong).

Seems like a natural path (one we've been watching) for him to go to his native country OR the N. Either way, he wins. Meanwhile...in Durham...still looking for that big spark(that sticks). Guess we'll know shortly.

Dan
06-22-2019, 03:45 PM
Hockey East in the NHL Draft...

BU - 8
BC - 5
PC - 4
UConn - 3
UMass - 3
NU - 2
UML - 2
—-

MC - 0
UMO - 0
UNH - 0
UVM - 0

Snively65
06-22-2019, 06:53 PM
Hockey East in the NHL Draft...

BU - 8
BC - 5
PC - 4
UConn - 3
UMass - 3
NU - 2
UML - 2
—-

MC - 0
UMO - 0
UNH - 0
UVM - 0

Our usual company at the bottom; just need to stay ahead of the other three teams to earn two HEA postseason games again this coming year.

Chuck Murray
06-22-2019, 07:31 PM
We'll probably not meet Mr. Stutzle:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tim Stützle, German top prospect for the 2020 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NHLDraft?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NHLDraft</a>, says he'll announce where he'll play his draft season next week. <br><br>Sounds a lot like he's waiting for the right team to pick him in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CHLImportDraft?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CHLImportDraft</a>. <a href="https://twitter.com/UNHMHOCKEY?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UNHMHOCKEY</a> commit w/ <a href="https://twitter.com/Musketeerhockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Musketeerhockey</a> holding his USHL rights.</p>— Janik Beichler (@JanikBeichler) <a href="https://twitter.com/JanikBeichler/status/1142154284286566401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

With his teammate Seider going 6th overall yesterday, must be a plus for the pro/draft path.

Gotta admit, I didn't see Yzerman making this kid his first pick upon his return to DRW.

Definitely not the safe choice, although D is certainly an area of need. Pretty ballsy pick.

Scott
06-22-2019, 09:16 PM
Hockey East in the NHL Draft...

BU - 8
BC - 5
PC - 4
UConn - 3
UMass - 3
NU - 2
UML - 2
—-

MC - 0
UMO - 0
UNH - 0
UVM - 0

BU was loaded with draft picks this past season too, and well, look where it got them. :rolleyes:

If Stutzle DOES decide to go the USHL route this season AND become an NHL first-rounder a year from now, well then bully for us. :D

Rogie21
06-23-2019, 06:44 PM
BU was loaded with draft picks this past season too, and well, look where it got them. :rolleyes:

FWIW, BU had four players drafted a year ago. One (Tkachuk) turned pro, another only played 12 games due to injury, a third was still in prep school and Farabee was Nat'l Rookie of the Year.
In 2017 BU had six players drafted and all played as freshmen. Won the Hockey East tournament and was one game from a Frozen Four berth.

Scott
06-23-2019, 08:23 PM
FWIW, BU had four players drafted a year ago. One (Tkachuk) turned pro, another only played 12 games due to injury, a third was still in prep school and Farabee was Nat'l Rookie of the Year.
In 2017 BU had six players drafted and all played as freshmen. Won the Hockey East tournament and was one game from a Frozen Four berth.

Fair enough.

Lemonade
06-24-2019, 10:19 AM
Odds that Tim Stützle ever steps onto UNH campus is set at a 3% chance.

Chuck Murray
06-24-2019, 12:54 PM
Odds that Tim Stützle ever steps onto UNH campus is set at a 3% chance.

I've always suspected it was a 0.3% chance, so I'll take the under.

Snively65
06-24-2019, 11:06 PM
Finns! We need Finns.

Chuck Murray
06-25-2019, 11:35 AM
We need quality players. I don't give a rat's ***** where they come from.

This doesn't have to be some hokey "Model UN" PC-driven exercise. Just quality players, playing winning hockey. Is this too much to ask for?

:confused:

… just channeling my inner "Grouchy UNH Fan" this morning … ;)

e.cat
06-25-2019, 04:39 PM
Odds that Tim Stützle ever steps onto UNH campus is set at a 3% chance.

So yer tellin me we gotta chance!

HockeyRef
06-25-2019, 10:20 PM
We need quality players. I don't give a rat's ***** where they come from.

This doesn't have to be some hokey "Model UN" PC-driven exercise. Just quality players, playing winning hockey. Is this too much to ask for?

:confused:

… just channeling my inner "Grouchy UNH Fan" this morning … ;)

Ditto on that. Skate, Defend, Score. Skate, Defend, Score. One more time for the cheap seats in the back Skate, Defend, Score.