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herbst20
08-23-2018, 03:35 PM
It was an academic issue per a source.

Couldnt get in to UW and Minnesota has low entrance requirements. Thus the reason they have been referred to for year by UW students as a "Safety School"

MadCityRich
08-23-2018, 04:32 PM
It was an academic issue per a source.

Couldnt get in to UW and Minnesota has low entrance requirements. Thus the reason they have been referred to for year by UW students as a "Safety School"

Thanks, I'm kind of surprised. I always figured they were close to the UW in that regard, with reciprocity and all (if that is still an option). Not to make a kid play somewhere he doesn't want to, but what ****ing good is an NLI or is it just another form of a verbal committment? What happens if a school pulls out of an NLI?

I check the Minnesota board occasionally and they have been very quiet (dare I say respectful?) regarding Sampo. Except for Rabid Gopher who came here trolling from his mother's basement.

solovsfett
08-23-2018, 04:45 PM
It was an academic issue per a source.

Couldnt get in to UW and Minnesota has low entrance requirements. Thus the reason they have been referred to for year by UW students as a "Safety School"

How could it be academic this late in the game? How is this suddenly coming to light this late??? There is 0 chance this was unknown until last week.

Wisko McBadgerton
08-23-2018, 05:10 PM
If a kid can't get admitted, there is no NLI anymore. If a kid with an NLI gets admitted and wants out, he would have to sit a year before playing for another school. (or get released with permission) A school essentially can't pull out of an NLI agreement, it's a guaranteed deal.

If it was his TOEFL which is what was first reported, and notwithstanding the opinion that it's easy if you speak English, he likely had a score done high enough for UMTC (79) but not high enough for UW (95-105) He could have enrolled in a summer English class and been admitted with a passing score, but he went back to Finland and played on the Finn WJ team this summer instead. He could then have planned on taking the test again after that was finished. Maybe he did and still didn't hit the score, or maybe he declined to retake it upon finding he could go to the goofs. Can't make him retake it and can't admit him without the score. These are two the most likely scenarios that fit and explain the timing.

gwhinwi
08-23-2018, 05:12 PM
How could it be academic this late in the game? How is this suddenly coming to light this late??? There is 0 chance this was unknown until last week.

Waiting until UM released Hurley so they had scholarship money for him seems like a possibility.

solovsfett
08-23-2018, 05:18 PM
Waiting until UM released Hurley so they had scholarship money for him seems like a possibility.

What’s hurley’s deal? I don’t know anything about him?

Wisko McBadgerton
08-23-2018, 06:10 PM
What’s hurley’s deal? I don’t know anything about him?

Connor Hurley is Cullen Hurley's brother. Played 3 years at Notre Dame and (after possibly running into some academic trouble) made a deal last year with Lucia to sit a year and transfer to UM for his Senior year. That fell through with Motzko this summer although there's lot's of speculation and little info surrounding it. Seems as likely Hurley himself decided not to come back as he wasn't at Sabre's pro camp this summer either. In any case it seems it was a late development.

mnstate0fhockey
08-24-2018, 09:12 AM
Thanks, I'm kind of surprised. I always figured they were close to the UW in that regard, with reciprocity and all (if that is still an option). Not to make a kid play somewhere he doesn't want to, but what ****ing good is an NLI or is it just another form of a verbal committment? What happens if a school pulls out of an NLI?

I check the Minnesota board occasionally and they have been very quiet (dare I say respectful?) regarding Sampo. Except for Rabid Gopher who came here trolling from his mother's basement.

Not going to speak for other Gopher fans, but I don’t think this is something to gloat over. Obviously this helps us, but the shoe could easily be on the other foot in the future. As others have said, your two 5 star recruits are coming in next season, so this is just a speed bump for you guys. I am still excited about this rivalry the next 5+ years. Should be some great hockey to watch!

Timothy A
08-24-2018, 12:44 PM
Not going to speak for other Gopher fans, but I don’t think this is something to gloat over. Obviously this helps us, but the shoe could easily be on the other foot in the future. !

Somehow UW did end up with Baker, though it wasn't this late of a change.

MadCityRich
08-24-2018, 02:35 PM
Not going to speak for other Gopher fans, but I don’t think this is something to gloat over. Obviously this helps us, but the shoe could easily be on the other foot in the future. As others have said, your two 5 star recruits are coming in next season, so this is just a speed bump for you guys. I am still excited about this rivalry the next 5+ years. Should be some great hockey to watch!

I agree. The world isn't right if WI and MN aren't kicking everybody's asses, including each other's.

mnstate0fhockey
08-24-2018, 04:07 PM
I agree. The world isn't right if WI and MN aren't kicking everybody's asses, including each other's.

Amen to that!

Bonin21
08-24-2018, 10:37 PM
We can gloat because the old staff probably wouldn't have pulled it off, just like they wouldn't have got Perbix to flip which seems like the next news.

First Time, Long Time
08-25-2018, 01:35 AM
We can gloat because the old staff probably wouldn't have pulled it off, just like they wouldn't have got Perbix to flip which seems like the next news.

So you gloat about the staff poaching players?
Really?
If Perbix flips...that's 7 guys now.
That's not something to gloat over...Bob's integrity sure left when he left the Huskies.

Koho
08-25-2018, 08:08 AM
Not going to speak for other Gopher fans, but I don’t think this is something to gloat over. Obviously this helps us, but the shoe could easily be on the other foot in the future. As others have said, your two 5 star recruits are coming in next season, so this is just a speed bump for you guys. I am still excited about this rivalry the next 5+ years. Should be some great hockey to watch!

This is a message board. Of course people will gloat and troll fans from other teams. The days of 50 page game threads may be over, that had opposing fans either sandbagging or predicting massive sweeps may be gone. But opposing fans need to keep some of the reason for hating the other team intact to keep things interesting. IF we all start looking at the other teams and their fans as humans just like us, and the player as kids just giving it their best, and not accepting that the opposing fans are all lying jerks and players cheap-shotting, cheating, punks, what fun will it be watching the games?

Wisko McBadgerton
08-25-2018, 09:39 AM
This is a message board. Of course people will gloat and troll fans from other teams. The days of 50 page game threads may be over, that had opposing fans either sandbagging or predicting massive sweeps may be gone. But opposing fans need to keep some of the reason for hating the other team intact to keep things interesting. IF we all start looking at the other teams and their fans as humans just like us, and the player as kids just giving it their best, and not accepting that the opposing fans are all lying jerks and players cheap-shotting, cheating, punks, what fun will it be watching the games?


Yes, I agree this Gopher's post is on the money.

Although considering that and the fact that it consists of generally coherent and correct English language usage, one obviously can conclude it's plagiarized. (That means copied from someone else for all you dirty goof numskulls trying to keep up.)

I had high hopes for Sampo -- hard worker, big shot, and can really fly -- but I'm pretty sure a week or so of hanging around with all those cake eaters on the goof roster will have him spending his shift coasting tiny circles in the neutral zone to avoid contact while checking his phone to see whether Gucci has a line of skates coming out yet. Too bad.

Koho
08-25-2018, 10:02 AM
Yes, I agree this Gopher's post is on the money.

Although considering that and the fact that it consists of generally coherent and correct English language usage, one obviously can conclude it's plagiarized. (That means copied from someone else for all you dirty goof numskulls trying to keep up.)

I had high hopes for Sampo -- hard worker, big shot, and can really fly -- but I'm pretty sure a week or so of hanging around with all those cake eaters on the goof roster will have him spending his shift coasting tiny circles in the neutral zone to avoid contact while checking his phone to see whether Gucci has a line of skates coming out yet. Too bad.

Ok, I'll try to write the next one down to a level that Wisconsin fans can understand, but I'm not sure how to draw pictures on here.

MadCityRich
08-25-2018, 10:15 AM
Ok, I'll try to write the next one down to a level that Wisconsin fans can understand, but I'm not sure how to draw pictures on here.

Use the Crayolas that the Minnesota Community College (aka UM) issues when they admit everybody. Crayolas are crayons. They are kind of a waxy writing utensil, uh, nevermind. Just go to FleetFarm and get some spray paint you guys use on bridges and watertowers. 😉

herbst20
08-25-2018, 03:20 PM
So you gloat about the staff poaching players?
Really?
If Perbix flips...that's 7 guys now.
That's not something to gloat over...Bob's integrity sure left when he left the Huskies.

Wasn't it Bob that got heated with Montgomery over flipping Guttman?

Bonin21
08-25-2018, 03:25 PM
Gentleman's agreement was a joke, and Bob's finally at a school where he can steal instead of get stolen from. God forbid we let kids change their minds on a decision they made when they were 16.

First Time, Long Time
08-25-2018, 03:53 PM
Gentleman's agreement was a joke, and Bob's finally at a school where he can steal instead of get stolen from. God forbid we let kids change their minds on a decision they made when they were 16.

I'm sure you would be saying the same if the Gophers were the ones being stolen from...
Integrity still matters...except at the U.